yet another scam from Tracy at QSC!

[brentm]

Call me a luddite, whatever. I'm not using bitcoin until I fully understand it. Using any form of crypto currency until I understand how it works is a hard NO for me and anyone with half a brain who doesn't want to lose their money.

QSC has amazing prices, but they are seriously lacking when it comes to keeping customers (aka Me!) Informed about issues on their end.

Best performing asset on the planet... But it can be hard to hold....

It's not like you haven't had time to "fully understand it". Start with the Bitcoin whitepaper. https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf It's 9 pages...

Maybe do like one page per year and we'll see you at 500k

 

[Windingroads06]

On the floor of the bathroom at the Shell station.

Nah! It's a Love's!

 

[brentm]

Don't use bitcoin, buy a stablecoin like USDT. The price is pegged to the US Dollar and doesn't fluctuate much.

Tether's been accused of counterfeiting printing money (not fully backed)... It's safe until there's some run on Tether.

 

[Windingroads06]

I am personally not sure if I will order from QSC again, not because of any specific issue, but just because they accept such limited payment options, and I honestly have no interest in dealing with crypto exchanges which are just a major scam. That being said I am a broke ass bitch so the prices really cannot be bebeat.

AMEN! Preach!

 

[Windingroads06]

Best performing asset on the planet... But it can be hard to hold....

It's not like you haven't had time to "fully understand it". Start with the Bitcoin whitepaper. https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf It's 9 pages...

Maybe do like one page per year and we'll see you at 500k

Perhaps, instead of "fully understand," I should have said, "I do not trust it." I can't hold it in my hands the way I can dollars, yen, dinero, silver, gold or platinum.

And, tbh, I am not interested in diversifying in that direction. Thanks for trying to help though. That was really sweet of you.

 

[Sunflower]

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AMEN! Preach!

How are crypto exchanges a scam when they’re much faster and usually cheaper than wiring money? Many vendors give you a 5-10% discount when paying by crypto also. I understand they are not as secure as credit cards, but they provide access to all kinds of products we normally couldn’t access as easily.

I’d rather go through the crypto hassle with (semi) reputable vendors than use my prized reward credit cards and take a chance they shut down accounts I’ve taken years to establish.

 

[FreeSpectator8]

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How are crypto exchanges a scam when they’re much faster and usually cheaper than wiring money? Many vendors give you a 5-10% discount when paying by crypto also. I understand they are not as secure as credit cards, but they provide access to all kinds of products we normally couldn’t access as easily.

I’d rather go through the crypto hassle with (semi) reputable vendors than use my prized reward credit cards and take a chance they shut down accounts I’ve taken years to establish.

Well in a lot of ways they are nowhere as secure as people make them out to be. Your transactions can be traced, KYC is still enforced at the exchange and they can block transactions they deem sketchy, and fees + volatility in crypto can leave you with major losses.

Additionally its an unnecessary step, I have to translate my legal tender into a practically unregulated currency to send it to someone else who can just keep the cash and not send me product. There is a reason the darkweb uses crypto, but there is also a reason why it is filled with scam sellers and exit scam's even on whole marketplaces.

Is it unsafe to the average consumer though purchasing grey market pharma? Probably not, but I don't like it, and there is nothing illegal about grey market peptides anyway, I shouldn't have to sneak in the shadows. I can make a payment via card, paypal, or bank transfer for no fees or minimal fees of just a few dollars in the case of WISE. And at least most of these will attempt to recover your money if there is any issue.

At the end of the day I just dont like it. If I have to use it I will but while I dont I wont.

 

[nonyabizznez]

I received my November Promo #4 T15 $95+10 ship today! "Label Created" in November. Didn't ask about it for a month... No responses from Bella. Emailed Tracy last week "Lost Package". That got a response and a new tracking number by morning. I'm sure it took Bella a while to respond because she's typing with the only finger that works after Tracy ran her hand through the freeze dryer.

Communication with QSC should be short and succinct. Explanations and stories or venting will get you nowhere. Expect all responses to be cut and paste. Unless you piss him off, then his words will be carefully selected

ETA - payment was confirmed 11/6!!

 

[Glp1judd]

I agree but if we correct for it then people cry censorship or shillery. It’s a tricky situation

Fuck em.

Happy new year brother. Thanks for all you do.

 

[brentm]

Perhaps, instead of "fully understand," I should have said, "I do not trust it." I can't hold it in my hands the way I can dollars, yen, dinero, silver, gold or platinum.

And, tbh, I am not interested in diversifying in that direction. Thanks for trying to help though. That was really sweet of you.

Read the white paper.... learn how Bitcoin, and blockchains that imitate it, have solved Byzantines Generals problem through proof of work and created a global network that allows for peer-to-peer transactions without a trusted third party.

99 percent of your dollars you never hold in your hands anyway... It's people like you that help me realize we are still early.

 

[hexagonal]

Read the white paper.... learn how Bitcoin, and blockchains that imitate it, have solved Byzantines Generals problem through proof of work and created a global network that allows for peer-to-peer transactions without a trusted third party.

99 percent of your dollars you never hold in your hands anyway... It's people like you that help me realize we are still early.

I've been following bitcoin since mid '09 when the local IRC channel crank that was always coming up with get rich quick schemes was trying to convince us to sign up on some forum and paypal the members in exchange for BTC. I called him an idiot, and he had the last laugh there, but...

A decade and a half later, and I still think the whole thing is largely built on speculation rather than anything real. Day to day usage for the overwhelming majority of crypto involves a trusted 3rd party in some manner, buying the initial coinage from an exchange, using the exchange infrastructure, etc. Even if you immediately transfer out to your own wallet, how many people did it with a non-KYC P2P platform like hodl hodl? Even that, of course, ends up on the blockchain, so if you bought it from someone who purchased it from a KYC exchange, you're just one hop away from someone who does have their identity tied up in things.

About the only use case I can see is when we're buying in situations like this where a traditional payment option is less viable.

 

[squig33]

Dang what did you order? Something they had to make new batches for? Goods not received since black friday is a little crazy, your payment should have been processed long before the bank issues.

My suspicion is that I was one of the first bank issues, like way before any announcement. I do ‘t know details because QSC is famous for that, and I accept that. But yeah I think my transfer was one of the very first. So now I’m waiting for it all to get sorted out.

 

[Exolon75]

Do we know exactly what happened to the bank accounts? I suspect that my payment would have arrived maybe a day before the blocked annoucement so if QSC no longer have access I presume they can't see my payment and therefore won't ship my order.
Any ideas if I'll be refunded or has my money gone into a black hole?

 

[GimmeABreak]

Tether's been accused of counterfeiting printing money (not fully backed)... It's safe until there's some run on Tether.

If you just convert what you plan to spend to USDT I think you are fairly safe. I'm not into crypto investing, I treat it more like a sweep bank account. Move money there spend it, rinse and repeat, I like a nice, boring S&P 500/Russell 2000 index fund for my investments and I sleep well at night (don't even need DSIP!).

 

[ktg123]

I sent USDT on Solana network for a payment to Tracy last night. Cost for the transfer was $0.58. Payment reaches them in a matter of minutes.

 

[PeptideJedi]

A buddy of mine ordered some cypionate from Tracy (Tracy is a he) they didn't have it in stock after he sent the transfer..I told him to be patient with Q and wala it showed up and he is very happy with it
Tips
Think of messages as a game of tennis..don't machine gun text them over and over..
Always make sure you order supplies while you still have enough to last you so your not on edge and counting on it by a certain time frame..

 

[Peptidase]

Placed a QSC order 12/15 and it arrived today!!
I hate it when people make posts like this!
But today it was me lol!
Didn't ask for tracking and wouldn't have this soon.
I try not to bug them outta fear. If I'm gonna be called a dick or told to eat dog shit I want it to come from someone I care about.

I also hate it when Tracy is on here telling people off when emails haven't been answered (I know, she has minions, not her job. Her job is telling people off and tantalizing us). I also hate it when new promos are launched before old ones are fulfilled. Maybe this GYC fiasco will make vendors rethink their business model. Like maybe manufacture, test, fill warehouse then sell to the public. Currently it's the reverse.

I also got a 2nd tracking number from an early November order that's been in the "label created" stage for a month. (49 day old order) I didn't ask about that order until a month after placing it so there's that, my Christmas promo beat my early November promo.

I still find it baffling how many pay money, have seriously delayed shipping times compared to many other vendors, and still calmly take insults from someone for being a few dollars cheaper. But to each his own.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

I still find it baffling how many pay money, have seriously delayed shipping times compared to many other vendors, and still calmly take insults from someone for being a few dollars cheaper. But to each his own.

The people who are with the program and patiently waiting aren’t the ones taking insults. The ones taking insults are the people who either don’t do their research or decide post hoc that they don’t like the trade offs they’ve made for the reliability and price that qsc offers.

The speed and communication are no secret, and if you accept them then there is no issue. If you don’t accept them then don’t order. I don’t understand why people insist on ordering and then call it a scam when exactly what everyone has reported as the typical experience for years occurs.

 

[hexagonal]

I still find it baffling how many pay money, have seriously delayed shipping times compared to many other vendors, and still calmly take insults from someone for being a few dollars cheaper. But to each his own.

Here's what I get out of ordering from QSC:

1) A vendor with a ton of 3P tests due to the sheer amount of people that order from them
2) Good pricing
3) A large library of stuff to order

And... all I have to do is be willing to wait a while for it to arrive.

 

[scarywood75]

A decade and a half later, and I still think the whole thing is largely built on speculation rather than anything real. Day to day usage for the overwhelming majority of crypto involves a trusted 3rd party in some manner, buying the initial coinage from an exchange, using the exchange infrastructure, etc.

About the only use case I can see is when we're buying in situations like this where a traditional payment option is less viable.

It's changing, crypto is only 2% of the whole market cap for investment at the moment, give it some time