Tracy gone MIA?

raw_oyster_eater said:
no, no.

i've just learned not to be so damned honest about everything.

lie my ass off like everybody else. i get in DMs with people and find out they're trying like 30 things. i'm like why do i take all the flak
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Shhhh I'm giving you back your street cred
 
chmuse said:
Is amolist down too, or do I have the wrong site?

Amolist
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I placed an order on Monday. They originally said it wouldn’t ship for 9 days because customs inspections are more strict right now, and then I got a tracking number from fedex yesterday..my first order so I wasn’t really sure what to expect but it seems good so far!!
 
Speaking of QSC, is anyone able to assist me with identifying my peps since their support is offline currently? The ID numbers they provided when they sent me the order confirmation should match somewhere on the discrete packaging right?
 
FreeSpectator8 said:
Speaking of QSC, is anyone able to assist me with identifying my peps since their support is offline currently? The ID numbers they provided when they sent me the order confirmation should match somewhere on the discrete packaging right?
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That's what I heard. I couldn't figure it out by following their instructions when I still had all the packing. In my case, I had only made one order, therefore I could figure it out.
 
FreeSpectator8 said:
Speaking of QSC, is anyone able to assist me with identifying my peps since their support is offline currently? The ID numbers they provided when they sent me the order confirmation should match somewhere on the discrete packaging right?
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That’s theoretically how it works. Godspeed though
 
hexagonal said:
Something being decriminalized means very little for the safety profile of use. It's perfect legal to eat and drink nothing but hamburgers and soda, but it's still awful for you. Alcohol is legal in most of the world, heavy use of it is still awful for you.

Abusing a drug, again, in the medical/research context, refers to using something outside of medical supervision and in doses beyond the therapeutic dose. So yes, some of us are abusing peptides. But AAS users in this context are almost universally abusing them, as the therapeutic doses for drugs like test, deca, etc., are well below the levels used by people using them for their effects in muscle growth.

You don't have to spend long on meso to find a post of yet another person not getting bloods, downplaying their high blood pressure, etc. Or pretending their BP isn't an issue because telmisartan has gotten it under control. Professional bodybuilding and AAS use are highly correlated with an increase in mortality. It's hard to prove causality, but there is enough data around it and a plethora of mechanisms that explain potential causes, so the idea that gym bros are pinnacles of health despite their AAS usage is not an idea that stands on particularly firm ground.

Dead Bodybuilders Speaking from the Heart: An Analysis of Autopsy Reports of Bodybuilders That Died Prematurely - PMC

This study analyzed publicly available autopsy reports of male bodybuilders under the age of 50 who reportedly died from cardiovascular-related events. A general Google search with the terms “dead bodybuilders” was performed on 10 February 2022. Six ...
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Morbidity and mortality in patients testing positively for the presence of anabolic androgenic steroids in connection with receiving medical care. A controlled retrospective cohort study - PubMed

Observations by health-care professionals suggest that the use of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) may be associated with lethal complications, but this has not yet been confirmed by controlled epidemiological studies. Here, we investigated the diagnoses (in the Swedish patient care records)...
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Health consequences of androgenic anabolic steroid use - PubMed

Androgenic anabolic steroid users have an increased risk of dying and significantly more hospital admissions than their nonuser peers. Side effects of AAS and their metabolites were highly prevalent. Given the high rate of androgenic anabolic steroid abuse, these side effects are of public...
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Anabolic steroids and cardiovascular risk: A national population-based cohort study - PubMed

Non-therapeutic exposure to AAS appears to be an independent risk factor for cardiovascular morbidity and premature death.
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Roid rage is an unscientific term that does little to explain the complex way AAS use impacts the brain, but the idea that they have no neurological impact is simply false (see the studies I linked a few pages back), and for many users, it 100% manifests as increased aggression and anger. Many AAS users have specifically spoken about it, such as Dr. Mike Israetel. The idea that some of these AAS just make you calm and others are the real monster maker is not something we have any specific evidence for in the literature. Some people might experience no or minimal impact. Others might experience significant impact.

Look: No one here is saying to not use AAS. This community in general seems to very much fall in line with the idea that adults should be able to inject what they want in their body and make their own decisions about the trade offs of doing so.

But let's not act like AAS use is all sunshine and daffodils. There's not a free lunch, you're not getting to pack on additional muscle at significantly enhanced rates without negative impacts to your health, and in a statistically significant portion of AAS users, those impacts include increased anger and aggression. Underplaying the medical risks of AAS usage only encourages irresponsible use of them by leaving the users uninformed.
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Spoken like someone who has never actually taken steroids, gj wasting everyone’s time. I’m on test, mast, and tren around half a gram total and my bp is staying under 120/70 so clearly not really the issue here and other lifestyle factors are
 
glpfun said:
Spoken like someone who has never actually taken steroids, gj wasting everyone’s time. I’m on test, mast, and tren around half a gram total and my bp is staying under 120/70 so clearly not really the issue here and other lifestyle factors are
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This is such a stupid dangerous thing to say its not even funny. Are you seriously trying to say that because you personally are not currently suffering any negative side effects, then it must be that there is nothing bad about steroids? Are you that dense.
 
glpfun said:
Spoken like someone who has never actually taken steroids, gj wasting everyone’s time. I’m on test, mast, and tren around half a gram total and my bp is staying under 120/70 so clearly not really the issue here and other lifestyle factors are
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It's well known that some people tolerate steroids better than others. IFBB pros exist and most of them don't fall over dead. I'm legitimately glad for you that you respond well and that it has minimal impacts on your blood pressure. That isn't the case for everyone, even those that are at healthy weights, do regular cardio, have a good diet, etc.

Your anecdotal experience does not invalidate mountains of scientific research and broad consensus on the impacts of AAS use.
 
hexagonal said:
It's well known that some people tolerate steroids better than others. IFBB pros exist and most of them don't fall over dead. I'm legitimately glad for you that you respond well and that it has minimal impacts on your blood pressure. That isn't the case for everyone, even those that are at healthy weights, do regular cardio, have a good diet, etc.

Your anecdotal experience does not invalidate mountains of scientific research and broad consensus on the impacts of AAS use.
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I think like everything else, it's all about moderation. In the case of pro bodybuilders, not just moderation in steroids and supplements, but moderation in behavior as well. Years of blasting to the max, extreme cutting cycles, crash diets, etc. are going to take a toll and you're going to have a higher likelihood of adverse health events and decreased longevity. Your average guy on a "TRT+" type regimen or a hobbyist lifter running "normal" cycles is probably going to be okay. I see no harm in it as long as you're using common sense and watching your bloods and mental state closely.
 
geoguy78 said:
I think like everything else, it's all about moderation. In the case of pro bodybuilders, not just moderation in steroids and supplements, but moderation in behavior as well. Years of blasting to the max, extreme cutting cycles, crash diets, etc. are going to take a toll and you're going to have a higher likelihood of adverse health events and decreased longevity. Your average guy on a "TRT+" type regimen or a hobbyist lifter running "normal" cycles is probably going to be okay. I see no harm in it as long as you're using common sense and watching your bloods and mental state closely.
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I think thats what most of us pro-caution individuals are getting at. Pro body builders absolutely throwing their hormones in a tail spin is very different then jim and joe trying to recover quicker and get some bigger gains. I want to try using HGH with 1-2 IU to help keep my muscle mass up while im on glp1's, alternatively GHRP-2 is interesting to me by simply increasing what my body already produces.
 
geoguy78 said:
I think like everything else, it's all about moderation. In the case of pro bodybuilders, not just moderation in steroids and supplements, but moderation in behavior as well. Years of blasting to the max, extreme cutting cycles, crash diets, etc. are going to take a toll and you're going to have a higher likelihood of adverse health events and decreased longevity. Your average guy on a "TRT+" type regimen or a hobbyist lifter running "normal" cycles is probably going to be okay. I see no harm in it as long as you're using common sense and watching your bloods and mental state closely.
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There is significantly less risk in moderate usage of AAS than extremely high levels, to be sure.

But there is increased risk even at trt+ levels. You want to minimize it watching your bloods, bp, etc., for sure. But it's still more than if you weren't doing it.

I've got no issue with people using AAS - I'm on TRT, and am saving the extra vials of test I get for increased dosages when I get my weight and bf% down. If I have success, I'll be adding more AAS to that for future cycles. In no way am I against the use of AAS.

What I am against is people acting like there are no risks. The science just simply doesn't support the idea that it is just as safe as not using it, or that there are no side effects. That's not even the prevailing stance on places like meso.

Of course not everyone take AAS turns into a gigantic asshole, or has their heart explode, or whatever. Despite consuming copious amounts of marijuana over decades, I have never had it cause paranoia. Lots of people don't experience any paranoia at all, even at very high doses. But I'm still going to caution people that that is a well known side effect of smoking weed. Even if AAS use only amplifies existing feelings or tendencies, the difference between an amplified response might be walking away from an argument muttering under your breathe vs. getting into a shouting match.
 
hexagonal said:
There is significantly less risk in moderate usage of AAS than extremely high levels, to be sure.

But there is increased risk even at trt+ levels. You want to minimize it watching your bloods, bp, etc., for sure. But it's still more than if you weren't doing it.

I've got no issue with people using AAS - I'm on TRT, and am saving the extra vials of test I get for increased dosages when I get my weight and bf% down. If I have success, I'll be adding more AAS to that for future cycles. In no way am I against the use of AAS.

What I am against is people acting like there are no risks. The science just simply doesn't support the idea that it is just as safe as not using it, or that there are no side effects. That's not even the prevailing stance on places like meso.

Of course not everyone take AAS turns into a gigantic asshole, or has their heart explode, or whatever. Despite consuming copious amounts of marijuana over decades, I have never had it cause paranoia. Lots of people don't experience any paranoia at all, even at very high doses. But I'm still going to caution people that that is a well known side effect of smoking weed. Even if AAS use only amplifies existing feelings or tendencies, the difference between an amplified response might be walking away from an argument muttering under your breathe vs. getting into a shouting match.
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The risks (and hassle. there's some micromanagement involved) are why I haven't dabbled yet. I made the call to get my weight/bodyfat where I need it to be, retest my levels and go from there. I'm not "clinically" low (the range of "acceptable" levels is hogwash though) just on the cusp, so for now I'm unsure as to whether i want to take on the hassle.
 
raw_oyster_eater said:
no, no.

i've just learned not to be so damned honest about everything.

lie my ass off like everybody else. i get in DMs with people and find out they're trying like 30 things. i'm like why do i take all the flak
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You're not supposed to admit that you're not being honest. Doing that is way too honest.
 
Just curious, what does a "TRT+" type regimen typically consist of? I know what TRT is, and I've learned a ton about peptides, and I know what AAS is (but have never done them.) What's the "+" that folks who do TRT typically do?
 
That's AAS abuse disguised as TRT. Makes people feel better about themselves.

Disclaimer: I think responsible adults should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies as long as it doesn't put additional burden on society.
 
Peptoidian said:
Just curious, what does a "TRT+" type regimen typically consist of? I know what TRT is, and I've learned a ton about peptides, and I know what AAS is (but have never done them.) What's the "+" that folks who do TRT typically do?
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Increasing their testosterone dosage to put them in the supraphysiological range, but not by a huge margin. Or adding a low dosage of an additional AAS. Some TRT clinics even prescribe var/deca/winny .
 
FreeSpectator8 said:
This is such a stupid dangerous thing to say its not even funny. Are you seriously trying to say that because you personally are not currently suffering any negative side effects, then it must be that there is nothing bad about steroids? Are you that dense.
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110% what he said!
Especially tren! For god’s sake have you lost your mind???!!!
 
stickfigure said:
That's AAS abuse disguised as TRT. Makes people feel better about themselves.

Disclaimer: I think responsible adults should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies as long as it doesn't put additional burden on society.
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Says the person injecting peptides with way less clinical research and human studies. You don’t even know what risks you’re taking.
 
Care to elaborate which peptides without human studies I inject? I have nothing against AAS, but your claim about a person you don't know is ridiculous.
 
Peptoidian said:
Just curious, what does a "TRT+" type regimen typically consist of? I know what TRT is, and I've learned a ton about peptides, and I know what AAS is (but have never done them.) What's the "+" that folks who do TRT typically do?
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Some clinics do test + deca so you can get help with joints from deca. Outside of clinical settings you commonly see people add mast or primo which are fairly mild and mostly cosmetic in effect and then for cutting you might see test, mast, and low dose tren like 70 mg a week. The low dose of tren help you keep muscle during a cut and keeps water retention down, hardly any side effects at that dose either. Low dose HGH is also common to add to trt+ like 2-4 iu. The real definition of trt+ is doses that are sustainable for long periods of time without risks to health.
 
ktg123 said:
Has anyone received their order yet? haha
but seriously, I have 2 orders outstanding from around Christmas time. I never did get tracking numbers. Nothing shows as incoming on USPS. Got my fingers crossed.
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I'm in the same situation. One order in the wind. One showed up smashed and poorly packaged and one made it without issue. (All from black Friday but we're supposed to ship mid December from US WAREHOUSE)🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 I'm obviously hoping the last one will arrive but not counting on it now. They offered to reship smashed stuff if I paid shipping and for 3 extra bottles but I didn't want to send them more cash with an out-standing order and limited communication. I'm not a hater..I really want them to work out. And I can wait. We'll see.
 
glpfun said:
Some clinics do test + deca so you can get help with joints from deca. Outside of clinical settings you commonly see people add mast or primo which are fairly mild and mostly cosmetic in effect and then for cutting you might see test, mast, and low dose tren like 70 mg a week. The low dose of tren help you keep muscle during a cut and keeps water retention down, hardly any side effects at that dose either. Low dose HGH is also common to add to trt+ like 2-4 iu. The real definition of trt+ is doses that are sustainable for long periods of time without risks to health.
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Dear lord almighty… you are one stupid guy …
There is nothing safe about Tren!!!
No trt clinic prescribes tren.
 
Lullabytreehugger said:
Dear lord almighty… you are one stupid guy …
There is nothing safe about Tren!!!
No trt clinic prescribes tren.
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Don’t throw stones in a glass house lil buddy https://glp1forum.com/threads/attention-all-vendors-suppliers.1684/

Linked an example of you being a lab rat by combining drugs that have never been studied before together at high doses as opposed to tren which has a ton of medical literature and studies because it’s been around since the 70s like most aas. Harm reduction patterns exist with tren, you unfortunately don’t even know what you’re doing to yourself, but keep telling yourself tren is bad.
 
glpfun said:
Don’t throw stones in a glass house lil buddy https://glp1forum.com/threads/attention-all-vendors-suppliers.1684/

Linked an example of you being a lab rat by combining drugs that have never been studied before together at high doses as opposed to tren which has a ton of medical literature and studies because it’s been around since the 70s like most aas. Harm reduction patterns exist with tren, you unfortunately don’t even know what you’re doing to yourself, but keep telling yourself tren is bad.
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Not a single molecule you creep
 
glpfun said:
Don’t throw stones in a glass house lil buddy https://glp1forum.com/threads/attention-all-vendors-suppliers.1684/

Linked an example of you being a lab rat by combining drugs that have never been studied before together at high doses as opposed to tren which has a ton of medical literature and studies because it’s been around since the 70s like most aas. Harm reduction patterns exist with tren, you unfortunately don’t even know what you’re doing to yourself, but keep telling yourself tren is bad.
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What's a little gastroparesis, pancreatitis, and cholecystitis in the pursuit of being a healthy weight faster? Or a bowel obstruction requiring a few enemas here and there?
 
Lullabytreehugger said:
Dear lord almighty… you are one stupid guy …
There is nothing safe about Tren!!!
No trt clinic prescribes tren.
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He did say "Outside of clinical settings you commonly see people add mast or primo which are fairly mild and mostly cosmetic in effect and then for cutting you might see test, mast, and low dose tren like 70 mg a week". But yes trenbolone isn't currently prescribed for humans (it was legally prescribed to humans in France during the 80s and 90s)
 
geoguy78 said:
He did say "Outside of clinical settings you commonly see people add mast or primo which are fairly mild and mostly cosmetic in effect and then for cutting you might see test, mast, and low dose tren like 70 mg a week". But yes trenbolone isn't currently prescribed for humans (it was legally prescribed to humans in France during the 80s and 90s)
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Mast and primo is also not prescribed for humans in the US but it has even milder anabolic effects than testosterone and safer profile so go figure. It’s almost like fda approval is not actually the defining characteristic of a safe compound. 🤔
 
Hey guys, I have more than dozen types of peps in theory sent my way. I bet they have no names on bottles so how cooked am I if they don't respond with their naming? I feel really stressed right now, any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Devidson said:
Hey guys, I have more than dozen types of peps in theory sent my way. I bet they have no names on bottles so how cooked am I if they don't respond with their naming? I feel really stressed right now, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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They'll be back. If they're not, I'm sure someone will start some sort of group for everyone to figure it out together.
 
Devidson said:
Hey guys, I have more than dozen types of peps in theory sent my way. I bet they have no names on bottles so how cooked am I if they don't respond with their naming? I feel really stressed right now, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Are they from the christmas promo? Keep your boxes in their bubble wrap packages, the bubble wrap has a barcode on it with the identifying code.
 
For example the code for one of my packages that I got was 055C-S5MG which is my Cagrilintide I ordered.

I also was helping another user earlier figure out their peps and we saw an abundance of different codes, but they all follow similar system where there will be letters that relate to what chemical is in there, and possibly numbers that say how many MG
 
FreeSpectator8 said:
For example the code for one of my packages that I got was 055C-S5MG which is my Cagrilintide I ordered.

I also was helping another user earlier figure out their peps and we saw an abundance of different codes, but they all follow similar system where there will be letters that relate to what chemical is in there, and possibly numbers that say how many MG
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Thanks for confirming that (I ordered it too). The "S" has been stuck in my craw thinking the code makes more sense for Sema (which I didn't order).
 
keangkong said:
When Tracy reappears with new emails and Whatsapp address, how do we know that's the real Tracy? I don't want to send crypto to some new wallet not knowing whether I'm being scammed or not.
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Just ask them for help with something stupid, a scammer will try to help you and Tracy will call you stupid or ignore you
 
keangkong said:
When Tracy reappears with new emails and Whatsapp address, how do we know that's the real Tracy? I don't want to send crypto to some new wallet not knowing whether I'm being scammed or not.
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"I'm real Tracy, yes, I'm the real Tracy, all you other fake Tracy's are just imitating. So won't the real Tracy please stand up
Please stand up, please stand up."
 
Not sure If these should be posted publicly

For anyone who hasn’t received yet.

Kind of defeats purpose or a secret code lol

Maybe I’m being overly paranoid.

Who knows who else is on this forum - Lilly ? Now they tell customs to look out for code xxxx etc

FreeSpectator8 said:
For example the code for one of my packages that I got was 055C-S5MG which is my Cagrilintide I ordered.

I also was helping another user earlier figure out their peps and we saw an abundance of different codes, but they all follow similar system where there will be letters that relate to what chemical is in there, and possibly numbers that say how many MG
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Devidson said:
Hey guys, I have more than dozen types of peps in theory sent my way. I bet they have no names on bottles so how cooked am I if they don't respond with their naming? I feel really stressed right now, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I have Xmas promo codes for BP 157/TB 500 (5mg each), GHK-CU 75mg / SNAP 8 (10mg)

DM if any of these help. I don’t want to post them publicly as kind of blows the secrecy of the code / makes easier for customs etc to identify what’s in those little vials for anyone’s who’s hasn’t arrived yet
 
hexagonal said:
It's well known that some people tolerate steroids better than others. IFBB pros exist and most of them don't fall over dead. I'm legitimately glad for you that you respond well and that it has minimal impacts on your blood pressure. That isn't the case for everyone, even those that are at healthy weights, do regular cardio, have a good diet, etc.

Your anecdotal experience does not invalidate mountains of scientific research and broad consensus on the impacts of AAS use.
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Some people are way better than others! 🤣😅🤣
 

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keangkong said:
When Tracy reappears with new emails and Whatsapp address, how do we know that's the real Tracy? I don't want to send crypto to some new wallet not knowing whether I'm being scammed or not.
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They’ll presumably post from their known accounts on here, meso, peppys, etc. that said I’ll probably wait until things get back to normal before I go sending them any money.
 
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