Best pep for building muscle and definition

[flpunk]

I'm looking for an affordable source for CJC/Ipa/Tesa combo

I've ordered some ipamorelin and tesamorelin (separately, I'll mix).

Anyone tried this combo?

I plan to do 300mcg IPA and 1mg tesa, 5 days on, 2 days off, for 3 months.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

i'm waiting for shit that we can just inject into our muscles and get ripped.

the hours some people put in at a gym is a waste of life.

 

[scarywood75]

I'm looking for an affordable source for CJC/Ipa/Tesa combo

Uther, GYC, Amo, SRY, there's a ton available.

Make sure you read and understand the pros and cons of each before purchasing anything

 

[AndyPanda]

i'm waiting for shit that we can just inject into our muscles and get ripped.

the hours some people put in at a gym is a waste of life.

“At 10 weeks, the men given 600 mg/week of testosterone enanthate who did not exercise had put on more muscle mass than the men who were not on testosterone and who did exercise.”

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dar.12433

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

“At 10 weeks, the men given 600 mg/week of testosterone enanthate who did not exercise had put on more muscle mass than the men who were not on testosterone and who did exercise.”

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dar.12433

i was always told if you do AAS you still have to put in the work. maybe not?

 

[AndyPanda]

i was always told if you do AAS you still have to put in the work. maybe not?

Worth a try. lol

 

[ktg123]

Placed an order with Uther at 8:30pm on Saturday 3/22. She said free USPS shipping and that would take a while and have a bigger chance it gets stuck in customs, or pay $50 extra for FedEx. Paid for FedEx shipping. Scheduled to be delivered tomorrow, 3/27.

Well that must have been a one-off. Placed another order on 3/27 with Uther, paid extra for FedEx shipping. They shipped it DHL and tracking says expected delivery on 4/8.

 

[hexagonal]

i was always told if you do AAS you still have to put in the work. maybe not?

Depends on your goal.

Doing a bunch of AAS will add muscle regardless.

But most of the people doing AAS are on them because they want to look pretty jacked. That'll take hard work, too.

AAS have a twofold impact on your muscle mass - they just add it regardless because they signal your body to build more muscle, but they also improve your overall ability to recover from resistance training, which allows you to do more of it. We don't have extensive studies on how they directly impact muscle protein synthesis from resistance training, as in if the same gym program on roids will give you better gains than the same program off (+ the in-built additional muscle just from being on them), but the limited ones we do suggest that there isn't much, if any impact there.

But if you take two twins, give them both gear, and one trains hard and the other doesn't, the one training is going to put on significantly more muscle.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

But if you take two twins, give them both gear, and one trains hard and the other doesn't, the one training is going to put on significantly more muscle.

i just remember years ago with the bros and they warned me if i didn't work hard on AAS i'd just get fat.

good to know there is some middle ground. i want to build a core. don't care about anything else.

 

[hexagonal]

i just remember years ago with the bros and they warned me if i didn't work hard on AAS i'd just get fat.

good to know there is some middle ground. i want to build a core. don't care about anything else.

There's a lot of potential reasons that you want to train concurrently with them besides the muscle growth side of things, but yeah, you will gain muscle.

The problem with doing higher quantities while larger or out of shape would be

Automatizing more - more of the testosterone will convert to estrogen
Blood pressure/heart rate issues - They tend to raise both BP and heart rate at blast-levels of dosing
Lipids - Crush your HDL, boost your LDL, same with LpA/LipoB
Hematocrit - Significantly increase your blood thickness
Left Ventricular Hypertrophy - Grow your heart in undesirable ways

Lower body weight/more activity (both resistance training + cardio)/etc. help mitigate these. It's a non-exhaustive list too, since there's stuff I'm missing, things that I left out that are an issue whether you are active and at a low bf% anyway, etc. Just tried to focus on some of the stuff that tends to be worse for less active and higher bf% people.

Even though at this point I'm lifting 5 days a week and doing a few hours of cardio split between the week, I'm still avoiding blast dosages like they used in that study because I'm worried about the health impacts.