China Based Chemical Companies Indicted for Alleged Fentanyl Manufacturing and Distribution

Looks like at least one of our peptide vendors made the list.... Can't say I'm surprised, this is probably fairly common.

Wow. I wonder now if I'll get what I ordered? GLP NOT fentanyl!
 
This whole thing is disturbing because SRY knew they were facing this but didn't mention it (not surprised but still) and let customers continue to order. I doubt there was any risk of contamination however I wouldn't want my name/address on some list of buying from them because the government may not know what exactly you were buying and assuming it was precursors.

I know QSC said specifically that is not something they get involved in but I'm not sure about other companies. At least with this I guess you know SRY is a true manufacturer and not just a reseller pretending to have a lab.
 
I'm honestly just in shock anyone is surprised by this.

Like I knew what grey meant before I bought? Once I was out of high school every weed dealer I knew was also selling other stuff. Guy I dated for a few months had an entire wall of shelves of product. It's kind of par for the course when you're dealing with grey market and illegal things.

Did people not know what they were getting into? I don't even trust test results, I have no guarantee the vial I bought came from the same batch sent in for testing anyway.
 
I'm honestly just in shock anyone is surprised by this.

Like I knew what grey meant before I bought? Once I was out of high school every weed dealer I knew was also selling other stuff. Guy I dated for a few months had an entire wall of shelves of product. It's kind of par for the course when you're dealing with grey market and illegal things.

Did people not know what they were getting into? I don't even trust test results, I have no guarantee the vial I bought came from the same batch sent in for testing anyway.

Grey market =/= Black market.

We're buying stuff we're not supposed to have from people who aren't supposed to sell it, but no one is going to jail over this. Even the lawsuits Lilly has filed against peptide sellers are CIVIL disputes between two private businesses. However those shake out, no one is going to jail.

There is a reason we can get FDA approved labs who wouldn't be caught dead with actual drugs to do our testing.
 
Grey market =/= Black market.

We're buying stuff we're not supposed to have from people who aren't supposed to sell it, but no one is going to jail over this. Even the lawsuits Lilly has filed against peptide sellers are CIVIL disputes between two private businesses. However those shake out, no one is going to jail.

There is a reason we can get FDA approved labs who wouldn't be caught dead with actual drugs to do our testing.
I think it's silly to believe they don't have their hands in many baskets.

Again, they were selling something that had been legal only two weeks before. Legality is fluid based on which companies are paying which lawmakers.
 
I think it's silly to believe they don't have their hands in many baskets.

Again, they were selling something that had been legal only two weeks before. Legality is fluid based on which companies are paying which lawmakers.

Having your hands in many baskets is not the same
as selling illegal drugs or the precursors to making those drugs.

Are all the US vendors selling Tirz secretly selling cocaine too? @Bacchus, do we need to call the feds?
 
Having your hands in many baskets is not the same
as selling illegal drugs or the precursors to making those drugs.

Are all the US vendors selling Tirz secretly selling cocaine too? @Bacchus, do we need to call the feds?
Unfettered capitalism. It wasn't illegal and it made them money. Big companies are kind of known for that. 🤷‍♀️

They just took a risk once it became illegal and got caught.

I just think the surprise and shock is overkill. By all means, demand better. They won't be getting my money either. But the market isn't exactly in a place to be able to guarantee the sellers/ sources aren't sketchy. They're selling to make money, not to cure obesity and PCOS.
 
The very thing that facilitates them being willing to sell us these as "research chemicals" is the same thing that makes them willing to sell a bunch of other things to other people. I'm not thrilled this is the case, but I'm also not the least bit surprised.
 
Sigma Audley temporarily halting all sales

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Having your hands in many baskets is not the same
as selling illegal drugs or the precursors to making those drugs.

Are all the US vendors selling Tirz secretly selling cocaine too? @Bacchus, do we need to call the feds?
:ROFLMAO:The blanket suspicion for all manufacturers is simply inane...

The risk profile between the two is night and day... Assuming that one implicates the other demonstrates a significant lack of critical assessment skills 🤷‍♂️
 
Is that a roundabout way of placing an order? 😇

Yeah no, even though cocaine probably could assist with weight loss - We stick to selling the stuff that is less likely to put us in the spotlight :)
I recently got bashed here for writing about tesofensine that is from the same family of drugs as cocaine, I call it "coke light".
 

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