China Based Chemical Companies Indicted for Alleged Fentanyl Manufacturing and Distribution

[Bacchus]

I recently got bashed here for writing about tesofensine that is from the same family of drugs as cocaine, I call it "coke light".

Eh, I could understand if you got bashed by a forum that is directing users to sources and which medication to pick.

But it's been clearly stated numerous times that doing research is a requirement here, so I don't see the problem?

Also, there are tons of somewhat sketchy stuff that works quite well in this category. Even pure cocaine serves medical purposes.

Top of mind, ephedrine, dmma (not to be confused with mdma), clenbuterol, would all fit into the category of kinda sketchy, but has it's use - like your coke light

 

[normal]

I find it moderately concerning how many people take what these vendor reps actually say at face value or truth. I think a lot of you need to look into what most of the manufacturing plants look like in these tier 2 and 3 Chinese cities, and what their standards actually are lol. I think of a lot of you actually researched that part, you may cut out ordering this completely.

Dude talks about 3 departments, 3 companies in 3 cities, etc. Their entire operation could just be a few teenagers popping open and resealing vials from someone else in their mom's dirty ass basement. There are no standards lol. We gave absolutely no idea what's going on behind the scenes. There is literally no way for anyone to verify anything else.

 

[Bacchus]

I find it moderately concerning how many people take what these vendor reps actually say at face value or truth. I think a lot of you need to look into what most of the manufacturing plants look like in these tier 2 and 3 Chinese cities, and what their standards actually are lol. I think of a lot of you actually researched that part, you may cut out ordering this completely.

Dude talks about 3 departments, 3 companies in 3 cities, etc. Their entire operation could just be a few teenagers popping open and resealing vials from someone else in their mom's dirty ass basement. There are no standards lol. We gave absolutely no idea what's going on behind the scenes. There is literally no way for anyone to verify anything else.

No way for anyone to verify, isn't exactly accurate - though not far from it.

For an end user/customer the statement is pretty much spot on though

 

[noteablequotable]

Shenzhen Biolink has joined the list of companies winding down their operations

 

[chmuse]

The blanket suspicion for all manufacturers is simply inane...

The risk profile between the two is night and day... Assuming that one implicates the other demonstrates a significant lack of critical assessment skills

I think it's healthy skepticism. I keep a list of sellers I consider more risky than others based on posts I see here and other places and order based on that. I'm also only a month in, so I obviously have less information than someone who has been doing this a while.

I'm here, I clearly decided to take the risk too. But the POSSIBILITY that these products were made in a place that deals in other things was a part of that calculation. Again, there's smuggling involved. Is there enough money in peps to justify that risk alone, with the price race to the bottom? That was my concern- because that's a question I didn't have an answer to.

I know enough to know what I DON'T know.

 

[JYo000]

I wouldn't buy from them personally and wouldn't want to knowingly support a company helping to keep the opioid crisis a crisis.

This is my stance as well. At this point, its a moral issue.