CNBC's "Ozempic underworld: Inside the black market of obesity drugs"

[noteablequotable]

With all the recent stuff happening I made a final purchase and I'm done buying for the next 2-3 years, as long as the peps last. Still interesting looking at the forums but eventually this kind of exposure will draw too much attention. Crazy.

Yeah. I really think it's a matter of time until something happens. I give it 6 months max. Too many new people who lack common sense, and there are plenty of folks in media and government interested in blasting their stories.

 

[GLP69]

This article doesn't seem to be discussing the grey market. it's talking about literal counterfeits of the name-brand drugs.

 

[Glp1judd]

Society loves to hate fat people. I think its despicable that they push "acceptance" and "body positivity over health. They want to stop people from getting Semaglutide at affordable rates but you can get a months supply of hard narcotics or benzos with GoodRx for $3.

Rich people get ozempic.

Poor people get body positivity.

- South Park

 

[AndyPanda]

Rich people get ozempic.

Poor people get body positivity.

- South Park

LOL. Just waiting on that Lizzo to start shipping from China dirt cheap.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

Lots of people on the Reddit subs discuss how once they lost weight people treat them differently.

This is a pretty well known thing across the board. I will say that the one thing I welcomed the most about being fat as a woman is being almost invisible to men in public places. Not getting harassed as much except for the occasional chubby chaser. Back when I was thin I'd get harassed at all manner of places. The scariest was at a gas station when the guy got really mad when I told him I just wanted to pump my gas in peace so he started circling the pumps then tried to follow me when I drove away.

Granted, there are tons of other scenarios where getting treated differently really sucked.

 

[Infinitestarlet]

Although I wouldn't be surprised if this was fear mongering from big pharma, but this article seems more geared towards people buying counterfeit OZ, MJ, WG, and ZB. I know when I was paying full price for ZB, some of the research I did had people buying conterfeit pens or tampered pens that were filled with who knows what. That's not to say the gray market doesn't have counterfeiting, eventually an RS who doesn't do the proper research with buying doses will lead to something bad and that will definitely shine a spotlight.

 

[mostlydamp]

Although I wouldn't be surprised if this was fear mongering from big pharma, but this article seems more geared towards people buying counterfeit OZ, MJ, WG, and ZB. I know when I was paying full price for ZB, some of the research I did had people buying conterfeit pens or tampered pens that were filled with who knows what. That's not to say the gray market doesn't have counterfeiting, eventually an RS who doesn't do the proper research with buying doses will lead to something bad and that will definitely shine a spotlight.

That's true about this article, I just think it's getting closer to a big story. Once something goes on reddit, sites like Buzzfeed steal the content so eventually it will trickle up to regular news.

 

[geoguy78]

Saw this on the Drudge.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/09/ozempic-underworld-black-market-obesity-drugs.html

SMH

This is ludicrous. Why isn't CNBC doing their job and being real journalists? Where's the story about why normal middle class folks are risking their money and health in search of a "deal"? The real story is that these meds are changing people's lives for the better, and cost way more than they need to, so people are taking risks to get them.

 

[Glp1judd]

CNBC was likely “incentivized” to do this “story” by a major Eli Lilly ad buy.

That’s how that biz works.

 

[AndyPanda]

CNBC was likely “incentivized” to do this “story” by a major Eli Lilly ad buy.

That’s how that biz works.

I agree. All media outlets are for sell.

 

[Glp1judd]

I agree. All media outlets are for sell.

Not all. But most.

 

[Glp1judd]

Choose the bear…

 

[Vacation4us]

This is ludicrous. Why isn't CNBC doing their job and being real journalists? Where's the story about why normal middle class folks are risking their money and health in search of a "deal"? The real story is that these meds are changing people's lives for the better, and cost way more than they need to, so people are taking risks to get them.

Well said, you deserve a prize.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

But slimming down for women actually increases our danger, that was the point of @moonpies4misfits anecdotes. Fat men who slim down can look forward to more positive attention but rarely will it result in outright sexual assault, sexual harrrassment and being MORE scared of men than we already are. I’m not looking forward to that aspect either.

Ding ding ding. Thank you for articulating my point.

 

[noteablequotable]

Kinda missed the point there. Do they welcome that aspect of being fat? Cuz honestly, I feel safer out in public as a fat woman than I ever did as a thin woman.

I weigh over 100+lbs more now than I did in my twenties due to health issues and this aspect of being thin was horrible. I was getting this harassment from women too, and men would flirt with me in front of their wives. It was very lonely and often really humiliating to be more attractive.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

That’s exactly what we are saying that we have experienced. Do you, as a man, require more clarification about how dangerous your gender is to women? Maybe ask the women in your life how often they’ve had danger signals raise their hair bc men are doing weird stuff like parking next to them in an empty carpark or following them around the store trying to make convo despite ignoring them. Etc etc etc. Most of us women here will have had a long period of “being slim enough to be conventionally attractive” and then being fat. The risks go way down being fat. It’s almost comforting and it’s actually a common thing for women who were sexually assaulted to turn to overeating and find safety in their fatness.

I have a feeling logic won't work with this one. He thought my post about harassment somehow equated to men getting laid and that speaks volumes.

 

[brentm]

Jesus fucking christ, where's your reading comprehension? We are simply stating fact, that we feel safer in public when we aren't considered conventionally attractive. "Inadvertently" You fucking knew what kind of reaction your last comment would get. Inadvertent my ass.

On a somewhat similar note but completely relevant. And at the risk of triggering someone reading this.

If I were a woman in today's society. I would be proficient and confident in concealed carry. This would mean the confidence to carry a loaded (chambered) weapon on my person. The ability to handle the weapon (lock, secure, transfer) safely. Lots of range practice with someone who can properly train me on safety, and how to put my shots on target reliably at different distances. Etc etc etc.

I grew up with my mom (single mother) who was constantly harassed by strangers. It might have been a different world back then, and she certainly didn't make attempts to blend in. She did carry some form of mace.

That might be another option. Bear spray.

This is one of the things I'm looking forward to about losing some more weight. Is wearing clothing where concealed carry is more comfortable.

And I'm a man....

There's crazy people everywhere.

 

[ImSW1]

That’s exactly what we are saying that we have experienced. Do you, as a man, require more clarification about how dangerous your gender is to women? Maybe ask the women in your life how often they’ve had danger signals raise their hair bc men are doing weird stuff like parking next to them in an empty carpark or following them around the store trying to make convo despite ignoring them. Etc etc etc. Most of us women here will have had a long period of “being slim enough to be conventionally attractive” and then being fat. The risks go way down being fat. It’s almost comforting and it’s actually a common thing for women who were sexually assaulted to turn to overeating and find safety in their fatness.

How about we stop talking about how dangerous OUR gender is to women and point the finger at the VERY few men that are absolute scumbags?

I hope you are able find healing but I take significant issue with this "all men are evil" conversation. I, and I'd venture a VAST majority of my gender are just trying to get through our lives like you are.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

On a somewhat similar note but completely relevant. And at the risk of triggering someone reading this.

If I were a woman in today's society. I would be proficient and confident in concealed carry. This would mean the confidence to carry a loaded (chambered) weapon on my person. The ability to handle the weapon (lock, secure, transfer) safely. Lots of range practice with someone who can properly train me on safety, and how to put my shots on target reliably at different distances. Etc etc etc.

I grew up with my mom (single mother) who was constantly harassed by strangers. It might have been a different world back then, and she certainly didn't make attempts to blend in. She did carry some form of mace.

That might be another option. Bear spray.

This is one of the things I'm looking forward to about losing some more weight. Is wearing clothing where concealed carry is more comfortable.

And I'm a man....

There's crazy people everywhere.

Absolutely. I've been wanting to do all of this once it fits in my budget, especially since I live in a major city in a somewhat iffy part of town.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

How about we stop talking about how dangerous OUR gender is to women and point the finger at the VERY few men that are absolute scumbags?

I hope you are able find healing but I take significant issue with this "all men are evil" conversation. I, and I'd venture a VAST majority of my gender are just trying to get through our lives like you are.

Nobody said it was all men, but it's enough men to make most women feel this way. If it were just a very few, why do we have SO MANY personal stories like this? We didn't just make this shit up, this is coming from our lived experiences. Maybe it would be less of a problem if more of the good men called out the bad actors instead of making excuses and minimizing the problem.