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[brentm]

Absolutely. I've been wanting to do all of this once it fits in my budget, especially since I live in a major city in a somewhat iffy part of town.

https://www.amazon.com/Keychain-Release-Maximum-Strength-Accurate/dp/B071YPH2DY

Nothing wrong with non-lethal options either.

Of course they make a Law Enforcement Only option and that's the one I want.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

https://www.amazon.com/Keychain-Release-Maximum-Strength-Accurate/dp/B071YPH2DY

Nothing wrong with non-lethal options either.

Of course they make a Law Enforcement Only option and that's the one I want.

Oh, I've got multiples lol. I also carry a knife but that's more for utilitarian purposes and isn't the best option for self defense in general. Distance is key.

 

[ImSW1]

Nobody said it was all men, but it's enough men to make most women feel this way. If it were just a very few, why do we have SO MANY personal stories like this? Maybe it would be less of a problem if more of the good men called out the bad actors instead of making excuses and minimizing the problem.

Yeah, because there's no lack of men standing up and putting themselves in danger for women. What would you precisely like us to do for you?

The statement I'm responding to is "Do you, as a man, require more clarification about how dangerous your gender is to women?"

Yes, there's evil PEOPLE out there but when we're you guaranteed safety at all times? How many is "enough" men? There's 170ish million men in America. How many of us do you think are in this group?

I wish you were safe everywhere you went, but that's a pipe dream for both genders.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

Yeah, because there's no lack of men standing up and putting themselves in danger for women. What would you precisely like us to do for you?

The statement I'm responding to is "Do you, as a man, require more clarification about how dangerous your gender is to women?"

Yes, there's evil PEOPLE out there but when we're you guaranteed safety at all times? How many is enough men? There's 170ish million men in America. How many of us do you think are in this group?

I wish you were safe everywhere you went, but that's a pipe dream for both genders.

I didn't say anyone had to put themselves in danger. It can be as simple as calling out a friend for acting inappropriately. Yes, there are monsters everywhere, but when the statistics show that 91% of sexual assault victims are women, we have good reason to fear for our safety.

 

[delululemonade]

In my experience, a lot of the men that other men think are good men, are not good men. You’d be really surprised. Or maybe you wouldn’t, if you take an honest look around. The Brock Turners of the world don’t walk around with a sign on their foreheads.

 

[ImSW1]

I didn't say anyone had to put themselves in danger. It can be as simple as calling out a friend for acting inappropriately. Yes, there are monsters everywhere, but when the statistics show that 91% of sexual assault victims are women, we have good reason to fear for our safety.

We're not in any disagreement here on sexual assault statistics, but what's the overall number of sexual assaults vs. men in the US? I think you'll find that the vast majority of men are busy being decent members of society. The thing I disagree with is the over generalizations in this thread.

And here we go again "In my experience, a lot of the men that other men think are good men, are not good men." I agree, we're all evil!

 

[delululemonade]

We're not in any disagreement here on sexual assault statistics, but what's the overall number of sexual assaults vs. men in the US? I think you'll find that the vast majority of men are busy being decent members of society. The thing I disagree with is the over generalizations in this thread.

And here we go again "In my experience, a lot of the men that other men think are good men, are not good men." I agree, we're all evil!

I didn’t say all, I said, “a lot.” Interesting that you put yourself in that category. I didn’t.

 

[ImSW1]

This conversation isn't productive anymore and should probably stop here. @moonpies4misfits made some honest observations about her actual experiences without the intent to malign anyone or make negative generalizations about men. That wasn't understood or well received (which happens) so there is no point in continuing to argue it.

But my experiences are irrelevant. OK!

 

[ImSW1]

I didn’t say all, I said, “a lot.” Interesting that you put yourself in that category. I didn’t.

Again, what is a lot, exactly? There's that, you don't agree with me, so you must be projecting.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

We're not in any disagreement here on sexual assault statistics, but what's the overall number of sexual assaults vs. men in the US? I think you'll find that the vast majority of men are busy being decent members of society. The thing I disagree with is the over generalizations in this thread.

I never made a generalization. That was your interpretation. I never said all men. I only spoke of men who exhibit this type of behavior. If someone was complaining about people exhibiting "Karen" like behavior, I wouldn't jump in the conversation and say "Not everyone named Karen!"

 

[ImSW1]

I never made a generalization. That was your interpretation. I never said all men. I only spoke of men who exhibit this type of behavior. If someone was complaining about people exhibiting "Karen" like behavior, I wouldn't jump in the conversation and say "Not everyone named Karen!"

No, you and others definitely generalized numerous times, but whatever. I've had a good and open conversation with you.

I seriously wish that you don't have to deal with these evil people anymore. I really mean this sincerely!

 

[noteablequotable]

@exploitedworkerbee can you step in here?

 

[moonpies4misfits]

No, you and others definitely generalized numerous times, but whatever. I've had a good and open conversation with you.

I seriously wish that you don't have to deal with these evil people anymore. I really mean this sincerely!

Can you point out exactly where I said it was all men?

 

[delululemonade]

Again, what is a lot, exactly? There's that, you don't agree with me, so you must be projecting.

Less than all, more than “a very few.” If you really can’t see that, I don’t really see the point in engaging further. Good luck on your journey.

 

[ImSW1]

Less than all, more than “a very few.” If you really can’t see that, I don’t really see the point in engaging further. Good luck on your journey.

You as well . I'll thank you for the engaging conversation. It's a change from the usual... How much BAC water should I use.

 

[DevynL90]

The incredible irony of a guy with an avatar of a convicted rapist whining about the plight of "NoT aLl MeN"

 

[ImSW1]

Can you point out exactly where I said it was all men?

I've pointed out what brought me into the conversation. You didn't bother to defend men when we were being disparaged. Why didn't you step in?

All this is really tongue in cheek. Like I said, I've enjoyed the conversation. I hope you have a great evening.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

I'm stepping out of this conversation. I've said all I needed to say. Calling out bad behavior is apparently seen as man-hating. Being told that you missed the entire point of a comment is not an attack. Turning someones statements about being harassed around as a way to feel victimized simply because you share the same anatomy as the perpetrators is weird, but ok. Saying "not all, but enough to be a problem" is not disparaging to an entire gender.

 

[ImSW1]

The incredible irony of a guy with an avatar of a convicted rapist whining about the plight of "NoT aLl MeN"

But my avatar is, a giant "I." I can't do anything right today. Dammit.

 

[ImSW1]

I'm stepping out of this conversation. I've said all I needed to say. Calling out bad behavior is apparently seen as man-hating. Turning someones statements about being harassed around as a way to feel victimized simply because you share the same anatomy as the perpetrators is weird, but ok. Saying "not all, but enough to be a problem" is not disparaging to an entire gender.

I'm out as well. I don't think anyone here hates men. My issue is the over generalizations, perhaps not from you, but it's there. I can also understand your perspective and points at the same time as disagreeing with some of them.

Be safe and have a great night.