Freezers?

A quick update for those that are interested. After 25 hours, the freezer has used 2.03 kWh and the average run wattage is 105 watts. I tried to remember to measure it right at 24 hours but got busy with work. Freezer is in a closet and it is usually 72 degrees in there at all times so it shouldn’t have to work all that hard.
 
After reviewing a lot of options, I ended up going with this portable car freezers on Amazon:

Some thoughts on my car freezer now that I've had it for about a week:

It's relatively small, but big enough to hold my entire peptide stash of 27+ kits with plenty of room to spare.

Controls are easy to use and it comes with two cords: one for car charging, one for a standard outlet.

While it cools extremely quickly for an item intended to be portable, it doesn't quite hit -20C/-4F. Current temp is holding steady at -17.4C/0.68F. That's good (better than the temp in my freezer door), but not what I was hoping for.

I actually like it a lot in spite of that, but I'm not sure if I'll keep it.
 
Some thoughts on my car freezer now that I've had it for about a week:

It's relatively small, but big enough to hold my entire peptide stash of 27+ kits with plenty of room to spare.

Controls are easy to use and it comes with two cords: one for car charging, one for a standard outlet.

While it cools extremely quickly for an item intended to be portable, it doesn't quite hit -20C/-4F. Current temp is holding steady at -17.4C/0.68F. That's good (better than the temp in my freezer door), but not what I was hoping for.

I actually like it a lot in spite of that, but I'm not sure if I'll keep it.
I am surprised it gets down to -17C with it only drawing 60W. If I had a need to transport my stockpile, like moving to another state, I would buy one. I guess it could come in handy if there was a power failure but my higher cost peps are in food storage thermoses that will keep them frozen at least 12 hours and by then I would have my generator setup and running.

Sorry this one didn't work out for you. My $200 Amazon special has been holding the temp pretty well even with me opening it once a week or so.

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I am surprised it gets down to -17C with it only drawing 60W. If I had a need to transport my stockpile, like moving to another state, I would buy one. I guess it could come in handy if there was a power failure but my higher cost peps are in food storage thermoses that will keep them frozen at least 12 hours and by then I would have my generator setup and running.

Sorry this one didn't work out for you. My $200 Amazon special has been holding the temp pretty well even with me opening it once a week or so.

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That's very good. Would you mind sharing a link for it?

I'm not quite sure what I'll do now. Thinking about buying a proper second freezer (3-7cu) to store some extra food anyway. I suspect the price of everything, including our peps, will go up.
 
That's very good. Would you mind sharing a link for it?

I'm not quite sure what I'll do now. Thinking about buying a proper second freezer (3-7cu) to store some extra food anyway. I suspect the price of everything, including our peps, will go up.
I think I shared it earlier in the thread which is why I didn't post it again. Here is the link:

(any idea why my links no longer pull up the little preview box?)

 
What size freezers are you guys using for storage? Like 1 cubic feet? 3? Etc. looking at some -86c ones. I’m just one person and need the standard zombie apocalypse stash I guess. Not sure how big I need to go.
 
Do you have a link to that -40 freezer?


Here is the one that I ordered. There are a few companies that resell these but they are all the same so long as they have the "upgraded compressor" picture and the digital control panel.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BFDTG4NQ

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I've been stalking this freezer and just broke down and bought it. It's on sale at Wayfair for $259 but I bought it from Northair for $309. With free shipping and no tax (at least in TX) it was a little cheaper (and red).
 
Walmart - Hisense 5 cu ft Garage Ready Chest Freezer, White, 33.6" Height, 1 Year Warranty, WFC050M6XWD. $165. -8F (-22c) near minimum setting. Will do -20F (-29c) at mid setting. Almost no frost buildup after 4 months. 80watts based on my Kill-a-Watt meter. Quiet. no fan. It use the outer shell to exchange the heat. Manufacturer states without power, keeps the temperature inside the freezer at 32F for 135 hours. I keep 40+ lbs of ice, lots of icepacks, over 120 vials, and some food. I shoved a Blink camera inside and the temperature varies by +/- 1 degree. Real happy. I think I reached colder than -35F(-37C) on max. And its made to operated even in a hot garage. I picked up at the store. Seems many get damaged during delivery.
 
People are stocking up with peptides because of the upcoming changes to customs procedures. This is driving the prices of ULT freezers up
 
I’m not worried about China not producing it. I’m more worried about trying to get it into the US. I bought a used Lab freezer off eBay for just a little over a grand. I’m sitting on a 2yr supply right now at -80°C. Walgreens and CVS are getting rid of the freezers they used for the Covid vaccine. So many used freezers on the market. The freezers have a 10 to 12 year life. Most of them are 3 to 4 years old. The maker of mine is a Striling Ultracold 25L.
 
Walgreens and CVS are getting rid of the freezers they used for the Covid vaccine. So many used freezers on the market. The freezers have a 10 to 12 year life. Most of them are 3 to 4 years old. The maker of mine is a Striling Ultracold 25L.
Is this the model that Walgreens/CVS are (or were) using?

I searched eBay and the Google and can't find anything in working condition under about $1k. Many of the vaccine freezer I am finding only go down to -20C (which my Amazon 1.3cu special already does).
 
Are there any people here with a strong working knowledge of electricity? I purchased a small freezer (1.1 cf) that gets pretty cold (-10 f), but not lab freezer cold. My understanding is that freezing cycles are very bad for peptides. So I’m looking into getting a UPS to not interrupt the sleep of my peptides. How much backup power do I need to keep a 79 watt freezer operating for 8-12 hours? Is it possible with a UPS that is readily available to consumers?
 
Are there any people here with a strong working knowledge of electricity? I purchased a small freezer (1.1 cf) that gets pretty cold (-10 f), but not lab freezer cold. My understanding is that freezing cycles are very bad for peptides. So I’m looking into getting a UPS to not interrupt the sleep of my peptides. How much backup power do I need to keep a 79 watt freezer operating for 8-12 hours? Is it possible with a UPS that is readily available to consumers?
If you can get it to withstand the inrush current from the compressor starting on the freezer, then it probably wont last longer than an hour at most for your consumer level 1500va ups (given the tiny batteries they use). When we size them for server racks, they start to get not only humongous, but down right expensive.

My personal solution was to get one of those "power stations" that a lot of generator companies are selling now as they are much cheaper and are general purpose. Originally, it was for short power outages where I didn't want to hook up the generator but I find it incredibly useful for other stuff like camping.


That's the one I have and doing some basic math, you should get ~11 hours out of it at 80 watts assuming continuous draw (not likely).
 
Are there any people here with a strong working knowledge of electricity? I purchased a small freezer (1.1 cf) that gets pretty cold (-10 f), but not lab freezer cold. My understanding is that freezing cycles are very bad for peptides. So I’m looking into getting a UPS to not interrupt the sleep of my peptides. How much backup power do I need to keep a 79 watt freezer operating for 8-12 hours? Is it possible with a UPS that is readily available to consumers?
Mmh 4h with a "big" consumer UPS maybe, so you need one that can be extended like the SMX3000C with an external battery pack, but that's getting expensive lol
 
I got one of the -40 3.5 cubic foot chest freezers from Amazon for 300. It is holding at -45C. I keep the extra space filled up with cheap 80 proof vodka bottles. That mix freezes around -27C. So in theory the freezer should stay well below -20 or so till all that 80 proof is melted. Should give me a couple of days at least before anything thaws.
 
Are there any people here with a strong working knowledge of electricity? I purchased a small freezer (1.1 cf) that gets pretty cold (-10 f), but not lab freezer cold. My understanding is that freezing cycles are very bad for peptides. So I’m looking into getting a UPS to not interrupt the sleep of my peptides. How much backup power do I need to keep a 79 watt freezer operating for 8-12 hours? Is it possible with a UPS that is readily available to consumers?
You could put your peps in a Thermos food storage container, I tested the 47oz model, it holds about 10 kits and it took about 5.5 hours to go from -5 to 32F. If you add a couple of ice packs to the freezer I bet you could get a few more hours out it. My 1.1cuft Amazon freezer will hold three of the containers. Add temp sensor that gives you notifications and you should have enough warning to fire up a generator.

Here is a link to the post I made with more details, after testing.

 
I think this would be an interesting topic for the new supplies and accessories group so I will propose the question. If it doesn't really fit here please move it or I can delete it.

Would it potentially make a difference in longevity of the peptides if they were stored below -20c? Now I know that at -80c they supposedly last an indefinite amount of time but the scientific freezers that can get that low are ridiculously expensive and probably not practical for most people. But could there be a middle ground that might buy more time in storage at a reasonable cost equipment wise?

I know from years of fixing old junk that most cheap freezers (freezer only freezers) have a manual thermostat that controls set points for the compressor cycle and they can usually be adjusted up and down a bit to account for different environmental conditions or just drift as they age. I was once able to get a chest freezer to reliably get down to -32c after changing out a thermostat that had failed and wondered if I could get one of those little cheap amazon freezers to do the same.

Something like the Honeywell H11MFB might be modifiable to get much colder than it otherwise would and would be a good size to store peps in without burning a bunch of electricity.

Would a difference of 12c really make that much of a difference? Could a little freezer like that even stand to hold that much of a temperature differential? Not sure but for $150 I'm tempted to try just to see if it's possible.

But I suppose that wouldn't mean anything if it wouldn't allow them to last any longer 😅

Any thoughts?
I've been shopping for a freezer recently. Everytime I find one on a med/lab supply, I put the details/specs in Made-in-China and BAM! The majority are on their website at a fraction of the cost with a longer warranty ... seeing as though you'd be purchasing from the manufacturer and all.
Most of the M-i-C manufacturers have MOQ's of 1pc which is nice. A lot of products have minimums of 2 or more.
 
I've been shopping for a freezer recently. Everytime I find one on a med/lab supply, I put the details/specs in Made-in-China and BAM! The majority are on their website at a fraction of the cost with a longer warranty ... seeing as though you'd be purchasing from the manufacturer and all.
Most of the M-i-C manufacturers have MOQ's of 1pc which is nice. A lot of products have minimums of 2 or more.
I'm using a -40c chest freezer from Amazon. It holds below that. Single stage. Screenshot_20250306-180019.pngI have heard a lot of problems with ultralows.
 
I'm using a -40c chest freezer from Amazon. It holds below that. Single stage. View attachment 5905I have heard a lot of problems with ultralows.
That's awesome!! We have 2 giant chest freezers so I would really like to get a smaller, cabinet/counter lab freezer, but still haven't quite decided on one yet. ... it also doesn't help that I get side-tracked looking up "lab freezers" on made-in-china and end up looking though all the mortuary freezers listed. All the different options, slide out lengthwise or sideways ... some drawers have "mortuary prep" setting while others are colder for freezing (for longer term stays, I suppose) ... the Dexter/Morticia side comes out in me and i can't get back on track! Lol!!
 
Are there any people here with a strong working knowledge of electricity? I purchased a small freezer (1.1 cf) that gets pretty cold (-10 f), but not lab freezer cold. My understanding is that freezing cycles are very bad for peptides. So I’m looking into getting a UPS to not interrupt the sleep of my peptides. How much backup power do I need to keep a 79 watt freezer operating for 8-12 hours? Is it possible with a UPS that is readily available to consumers?
I replaced the acid batteries with 2x10amp LIFEPO4 lithium in each of my 3 Cyberpower Sine Wave UPS 1500watts. I doubled the run time - 2 hours for 65" TV with DVR/settop box (120watt drain). LIFEPO4 batteries have a BMS circuit board that protects you from making mistakes. I tested the UPS many different ways, trying to get it to burn, or melt. Nada. One year later, and still fine with LIFEPO4. They requires a charge voltage 2-3volts higher that lead acid, so this UPS does not over charge. It actually begins to cycle charge on/off when the LIFEPO4 reaches 95% full. It recharges to 50% in a day, and take about 3+ days for the drained Lithium batteries to get fully charged by the UPS. A 1500W UPS with LIFEPO4 batteries may do the trick if you only plug the freezer two hours on/off (the inside temperate will only vary 1-2 degrees). My chest freezer will remain below 32F after 4 days without power, and not opened. I now have have 4 X 100 amp LIFEPO4 connected to a 2000W sine wave inverter, for real power failures. I live in a hurricane zone. Been without power once for 5 days, so I learned. 79 watts X 12 hours=948watts. Freezer runs on/off so you need less, but a UPS is 80-90% efficient, 1500W is maybe 1200W. The defrost cycles of refrigerators are the killers. I have a Blink camera inside my freezer and can check the temp from anywhere (yes, the wifi signal is strong like the other cameras).
 
I replaced the acid batteries with 2x10amp LIFEPO4 lithium in each of my 3 Cyberpower Sine Wave UPS 1500watts. I doubled the run time - 2 hours for 65" TV with DVR/settop box (120watt drain). LIFEPO4 batteries have a BMS circuit board that protects you from making mistakes. I tested the UPS many different ways, trying to get it to burn, or melt. Nada. One year later, and still fine with LIFEPO4. They requires a charge voltage 2-3volts higher that lead acid, so this UPS does not over charge. It actually begins to cycle charge on/off when the LIFEPO4 reaches 95% full. It recharges to 50% in a day, and take about 3+ days for the drained Lithium batteries to get fully charged by the UPS. A 1500W UPS with LIFEPO4 batteries may do the trick if you only plug the freezer two hours on/off (the inside temperate will only vary 1-2 degrees). My chest freezer will remain below 32F after 4 days without power, and not opened. I now have have 4 X 100 amp LIFEPO4 connected to a 2000W sine wave inverter, for real power failures. I live in a hurricane zone. Been without power once for 5 days, so I learned. 79 watts X 12 hours=948watts. Freezer runs on/off so you need less, but a UPS is 80-90% efficient, 1500W is maybe 1200W. The defrost cycles of refrigerators are the killers. I have a Blink camera inside my freezer and can check the temp from anywhere (yes, the wifi signal is strong like the other cameras).
I don’t understand a goddamn thing you just said, but I like it! lol. I just need to know if there is a consumer product out there that I can buy.
 
My understanding is that freezing cycles are very bad for peptides. So I’m looking into getting a UPS to not interrupt the sleep of my peptides.
Before you spend money on a power system, find a way to actually measure how the temperature in the freezer changes when it loses power. There are inexpensive weather stations with temp sensors that can live in a freezer, for example. There are also temp logging devices, that you could put inside a thermos like people use as extra pep protection. You may be surprised how long your freezer stays frozen without juice.

Any kind of battery that can keep a freezer cold for day would be awfully big and expensive. A generator would be a lot cheaper.
 
Before you spend money on a power system, find a way to actually measure how the temperature in the freezer changes when it loses power. There are inexpensive weather stations with temp sensors that can live in a freezer, for example. There are also temp logging devices, that you could put inside a thermos like people use as extra pep protection. You may be surprised how long your freezer stays frozen without juice.

Any kind of battery that can keep a freezer cold for day would be awfully big and expensive. A generator would be a lot cheaper.
Agreed. Add thermal mass inside your freezer. Preferably something that will freeze and thaw at a low temp. My freezer has several gallons of 80 proof vodka in it. That thaws at around -18 and absorbs a ton of heat doing it. That will keep if frozen for days without power
 

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