If you were a newb... would you start with Tirz or Reta first?

[TooBigtoFail]

Tirz again. Is price a concern? How much weight? Not everyone reacts the same. Don't buy 5-10mg vials. Go higher content 30 or 50mg. Buy one kit (10 vials) and stretch each vial for 6-8 weeks. Should be good for almost one year. Never tried Sema. 38 weeks on Tirz. 60# gone. 0 exercise. Stacking Cagri and Reta.

 

[Ted R]

Sema did nothing for me except give me constipation. Tirz was good but made some foods taste funny (coffee didn’t taste right, steak was meh, tomatos didn’t taste right). Because of all the odd effects on stuff I love, I lived on protein shakes and vitamin/mineral supplements. They didn’t taste great, but nothing tasted good anyway. Then I learned about Reta. Oh lawd I can enjoy coffee again. My ribeye tastes good again. My salads- fabulous! ….except I still have to make myself eat. Nothing sounds good right now. It’s great when I break down and make it, but I just.. don’t wanna bother.. unless it’s coffee. I love my coffee.
But to answer your question? Reta. If it doesn’t kick your tail heart rate wise, it would be my choice. And start on a bowel regimen before you think you have a problem, ok?

Reta was definitely my first choice, and still would be, but things don't always work out like you hoped. The Tirz/Survo stack is my just work around that gives me most benefits of the Reta regimen, and with the bowels, drink those 8 glasses of water a day. Makes a huge difference.

 

[FlowerFairy]

Reta was definitely my first choice, and still would be, but things don't always work out like you hoped. The Tirz/Survo stack is my just work around that gives me most benefits of the Reta regimen, and with the bowels, drink those 8 glasses of water a day. Makes a huge difference.

Yeah I feel fortunate that I can use it. So sorry that it affected you that way!

 

[grades]

I’d look at it the same way I’d look at dosage increases. Start with what’s considered the weakest or lightest, and go from there.

 

[hexagonal]

My RHR is average 80s. That is scary to have that high a jump..

Most people won't have it jump that high, thankfully. Some people do, though, so I'd recommend starting low and slow and increasing gradually.

My RHR is on the high side in general, sits in the 90s with everything I'm taking.

 

[onepotatotwopotato]

I'd start with tirz. Seems effective enough with more research behind it, you'll find a lot more information online about it, drs know more about it (if you need help) and it's reasonably priced these days