Let's talk GLP1's downfall - MUSCLE LOSS

[Lullabytreehugger]

Just get on test + tren and deca. Tren will help with nutrition partition, deca will bulk you up and regain any lost muscle mass. For this reason alone, we should be on test and GLP1s at same time to avoid as much muscle loss we can save.

Or another way is cut down first, as much weight as u can, then after get on the gear and start building muscle again. Say you gained 15kgs of muscle mass over a 12 week cycle.

Naturally once you stop test you will lose some muscle gains. From that 15kgs gained you might lose 5kgs.

So you will still be ahead 10kgs.

Also keep in mind muscle eats glucose so in theory after your cycle your blood sugar should be lower than before and it will help with keeping fat gain to a minimum.

 

[miche52]

So you've lost an enormous amount of weight. Have you noticed how much muscle mass you've lost?
Arguably the biggest drawback to GLP-1's is the loss of muscle mass. Many in the healthcare industry are espousing an early death due to GLP-1's rapid weight loss going hand in hand with rapid muscle loss. Older GLP-1 patients losing so much muscle mass they cannot gain back and will no longer be able to support their own body weight as they age.
Let's talk about gaining this muscle mass back. We have some great tools at our disposal: CJC-1295, Ipamorelin, Tesamorelin, GH, ABS.
What are you trying and what have been the results?

Started using compound sema in Jan 2023. Loss 30 pounds over 10 months. Already was a cardio head but made it a point to start lifting because I could tell I was losing strength at 49. I didn't go beyond 1.0 mg. After my weight stalled, I thought maybe this is where my body wants to be so I stayed in maintenance for a year and spreading dosing every 10-14 days. 5 weeks ago I switched to tirz and now losing again. My goal is to lose another 20 pounds. I see the benefit of losing slow as I don't want to sacrifice losing too much muscle. At 51, in perimenoupase this is no joke. All the years of yo yo dieting created a lot of havoc on the body.

 

[hexagonal]

Just get on test + tren and deca. Tren will help with nutrition partition, deca will bulk you up and regain any lost muscle mass. For this reason alone, we should be on test and GLP1s at same time to avoid as much muscle loss we can save.

Or another way is cut down first, as much weight as u can, then after get on the gear and start building muscle again. Say you gained 15kgs of muscle mass over a 12 week cycle.

Naturally once you stop test you will lose some muscle gains. From that 15kgs gained you might lose 5kgs.

So you will still be ahead 10kgs.

Also keep in mind muscle eats glucose so in theory after your cycle your blood sugar should be lower than before and it will help with keeping fat gain to a minimum.

You're not putting on 15kg of muscle on a 12 week cycle. Actual retained muscle mass gains on cycle is much closer to 1lb/week, and that's assuming dialed in training, diet, and recovery. 10kg retained would be elite genetics on very high doses levels of gains.

Test at TRT levels is extremely anti-catabolic by itself. You don't need to run a cycle while losing weight to retain muscle, and running more than TRT levels of AAS while overweight is a recipe for all sorts of negative health impacts.

 

[Calm Logic]

Fava beans as a great source of muscle-building aminos and peptides:

Plant-based peptides from fava beans to shake up muscle health segment

08 Feb 2023 --- Extracting bioactive peptides from fava beans using precision tech as a “game-changing” muscle health solution, Nuritas and Maastricht University have published a clinical trial demonstrating the effectiveness of the company’s plant-based bioactive peptide solution, PeptiStrong.

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Extracting bioactive peptides from fava beans using precision tech as a “game-changing” muscle health solution, Nuritas and Maastricht University have published a clinical trial demonstrating the effectiveness of the company’s plant-based bioactive peptide solution, PeptiStrong.

The study, published in the Journal of Nutrition, shows that the bioactive ingredient performs better than traditional animal proteins, specifically milk protein, in muscle conditioning. Nuritas’ PeptiStrong increases muscle synthesis recovery following immobilization.

Faba Bean: An Untapped Source of Quality Plant Proteins and Bioactives - PMC

Faba beans are emerging as sustainable quality plant protein sources, with the potential to help meet the growing global demand for more nutritious and healthy foods. The faba bean, in addition to its high protein content and well-balanced amino ...

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Faba beans are emerging as sustainable quality plant protein sources, with the potential to help meet the growing global demand for more nutritious and healthy foods. The faba bean, in addition to its high protein content and well-balanced amino acid profile, contains bioactive constituents with health-enhancing properties, including bioactive peptides, phenolic compounds, GABA, and L-DOPA. Faba bean peptides released after gastrointestinal digestion have shown antioxidant, antidiabetic, antihypertensive, cholesterol-lowering, and anti-inflammatory effects, indicating a strong potential for this legume crop to be used as a functional food to help face the increasing incidences of non-communicable diseases.