Thought about QYC/Shanxi Qianyecao Biotechnology

[scarywood75]

This thread was about QYC. I just layed it out like it is, I got orders stuck at origin international airport, they gonna get another review from me for the non activity ever since payment. And another one that is not even on the radar at usps.

This thread is confusing as hell lol, you didn't receive some of the order from them and they stopped communicating with you?

 

[H1n1vrz89]

wonder if this is a compounding pharmacy, or henry meds?
its the only thing that comes up with perris ca

 

[Emmwhyyy]

This thread is confusing as hell lol, you didn't receive some of the order from them and they stopped communicating with you?

I would have blasted them if I didn’t receive my order lol

 

[Emmwhyyy]

That’s me

wonder if this is a compounding pharmacy, or henry meds?
its the only thing that comes up with perris ca

That’s me bro, someone said I was a Chinese bot, so I put up the receipts, I don’t know why they are not buying and testing, but they doing a lot of commenting

 

[ruledbyneurodiverg]

This thread was about QYC. I just layed it out like it is, I got orders stuck at origin international airport, they gonna get another review from me for the non activity ever since payment. And another one that is not even on the radar at usps.

Sorry, just want to clarify- are you still recommending QYC, or are you saying you’re having issues with them now about communication or something else?

 

[Emmwhyyy]

Sorry, just want to clarify- are you still recommending QYC, or are you saying you’re having issues with them now about communication or something else?

They are good in my book, I ordered twice.

 

[H1n1vrz89]

I placed an Order with them recently.
Also, why would the other user say " I have a feeling they are overfilled"
I plan on sending a vial for testing at vanguard or PT. for testing.
be sure to do the math on the order, cause they had misquoted me, (not by alot, but still)
I brought that up and it was fixed. shipping a bit steep. $80.
shipping speed is 7-15days, we will see.

 

[Emmwhyyy]

I placed an Order with them recently.
Also, why would the other user say " I have a feeling they are overfilled"
I plan on sending a vial for testing at vanguard or PT. for testing.
be sure to do the math on the order, cause they had misquoted me, (not by alot, but still)
I brought that up and it was fixed. shipping a bit steep. $80.
shipping speed is 7-15days, we will see.

I’m researching as well, from one 10mg vial to the next, the one from this place was stronger as the same dose from my other two sources, so that’s a good thing, I’m sure they are not the only ones overfilling but you’ll feel it when you run into them. Sometimes you may think you are dosing 5mg but you are actually dosing 6.5.

 

[Cndmk]

So getting back to the group testing idea…i saw the one you did for Amopure and was impressed by it. You willing to do it with another vendor? I would like to do something similar to what you did with Amopure, just don’t have the time to help put it together, but would love to participate in something like that. Chain of custody is everything and knowing more about what we literally have is the end goal for all of us! Let me know what you think! And maybe we can find a vendor willing to do the reimbursement idea you mentioned too! Have they responded about your idea at all?

Hey there, sorry I've been really busy and haven't had a ton of time to respond to Rebecca, but they seem interested.

I took some time to think about the concept and I think doing anything complex was.... umm too complex and I'm not afraid to admit, a bit dumb.

I also have been waiting from a cost for a 5 or 10 person test (1 vial/person) from Peptide-Test. I have no issues with Janoshik, but I'm US based, and I've worked with them before and were really responsive and accommodating AND they are here for us and is always looking to help out! Sorry that one was too easy to pass up.

My current pitch is a LOT simpler:
-QYC runs a sale on whichever products they want to aim for on this thing, realistically I suggest their best selling or highest volume products. Remember if we want vendors to go with this, it's gotta be in their financial interest.

- The first 5 or 10 people (whichever QYC wants to go with) would get 50% off the test price (paid for by QYC)

- Others can join the test, but they are paying whatever the vial cost (which would still be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than sending a single vial in for cost).

- All participants choose their own vial to send in (this means single blind test, which increases quality of the test) and pay for shipping (it's pretty cheap to send a vial in the mail).

- Vials will be traceable on the test like the AmoPure test.

- Participants will get their test results, and QYC gets the rights to use the test results in marketing.

I would be willing to do the organization for this test group, as test quality and pushing new ideas in this space is kind of my jam if it has a net benefit for the community. Hopefully other vendors would follow suit to some extent, then maybe we can have a "Willing to do a Single-Blind Vendor Sponsored Testing Group" category of vendors, where you could actually trust the results (no offense vendors who do your own testing, I just can't trust it).

Can I also be honest with this? Vendor tests might seem like the logical marketing thing to do as a vendor, but if your customers are testing your product and you aren't encouraging it, you are doing it wrong. You know what actually costs less than sending out a 1-3 vials each time you make a batch for $300-$500 AND makes you a lot of money? Running group tests and paying for a good chunk of it. Encourages sales, drive community engagement, and shuts up a lot of people like me who say "they could have cherry picked those vials.", and you want me to shut up.

 

[scarywood75]

Hey there, sorry I've been really busy and haven't had a ton of time to respond to Rebecca, but they seem interested.

I took some time to think about the concept and I think doing anything complex was.... umm too complex and I'm not afraid to admit, a bit dumb.

I also have been waiting from a cost for a 5 or 10 person test (1 vial/person) from Peptide-Test. I have no issues with Janoshik, but I'm US based, and I've worked with them before and were really responsive and accommodating AND they are here for us and is always looking to help out! Sorry that one was too easy to pass up.

My current pitch is a LOT simpler:
-QYC runs a sale on whichever products they want to aim for on this thing, realistically I suggest their best selling or highest volume products. Remember if we want vendors to go with this, it's gotta be in their financial interest.

- The first 5 or 10 people (whichever QYC wants to go with) would get 50% off the test price (paid for by QYC)

- Others can join the test, but they are paying whatever the vial cost (which would still be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than sending a single vial in for cost).

- All participants choose their own vial to send in (this means single blind test, which increases quality of the test) and pay for shipping (it's pretty cheap to send a vial in the mail).

- Vials will be traceable on the test like the AmoPure test.

- Participants will get their test results, and QYC gets the rights to use the test results in marketing.

I would be willing to do the organization for this test group, as test quality and pushing new ideas in this space is kind of my jam if it has a net benefit for the community. Hopefully other vendors would follow suit to some extent, then maybe we can have a "Willing to do a Single-Blind Vendor Sponsored Testing Group" category of vendors, where you could actually trust the results (no offense vendors who do your own testing, I just can't trust it).

Can I also be honest with this? Vendor tests might seem like the logical marketing thing to do as a vendor, but if your customers are testing your product and you aren't encouraging it, you are doing it wrong. You know what actually costs less than sending out a 1-3 vials each time you make a batch for $300-$500 AND makes you a lot of money? Running group tests and paying for a good chunk of it. Encourages sales, drive community engagement, and shuts up a lot of people like me who say "they could have cherry picked those vials.", and you want me to shut up.

I'm in, where do I sign

 

[Cndmk]

I'm in, where do I sign

Once I get agreements from all parties involved, I will make a separate post. The sale would have to start, people have to purchase product THEN we would obviously set up testing. When you look at the timeframe the whole process is gonna take like a month or 2 realistically:

- Sale is announced with testing design
- People purchase
- Product is shipped to people (I'm guessing like 2-4 weeks? Not sure of shipping speed with this vendor)
- I put out a startup time for testing signups (like 24-48 hours in advance) so everyone knows when they can register to participate in testing and everyone has a fair chance of getting in early.
- First 5-10 people who message me I mark down for the vendor/testing vendor, rest we will relay per vial price
- I make up the organization system (same one from AmoPure tests)
- Discord invites go out
- Payments + vials are sent to Testing Vendor (give everyone 72 hours to pay)
- vials are received and confirmed by Testing Vendor (takes like a week or 2 to make sure everyone has time to ship)
- a weekish for results after confirmations of everything received.

As I write all of this I can't believe I'm signing myself up for this again I must be a masochist

 

[scarywood75]

Once I get agreements from all parties involved, I will make a separate post. The sale would have to start, people have to purchase product THEN we would obviously set up testing. When you look at the timeframe the whole process is gonna take like a month or 2 realistically:

- Sale is announced with testing design
- People purchase
- Product is shipped to people (I'm guessing like 2-4 weeks? Not sure of shipping speed with this vendor)
- I put out a startup time for testing signups (like 24-48 hours in advance) so everyone knows when they can register to participate in testing and everyone has a fair chance of getting in early.
- First 5-10 people who message me I mark down for the vendor/testing vendor, rest we will relay per vial price
- I make up the organization system (same one from AmoPure tests)
- Discord invites go out
- Payments + vials are sent to Testing Vendor (give everyone 72 hours to pay)
- vials are received and confirmed by Testing Vendor (takes like a week or 2 to make sure everyone has time to ship)
- a weekish for results after confirmations of everything received.

As I write all of this I can't believe I'm signing myself up for this again I must be a masochist

Yeah, sounds like you're filling your free time lol. I couldn't organize such things it's just too complicated for my poor brain

 

[Cndmk]

Yeah, sounds like you're filling your free time lol. I couldn't organize such things it's just too complicated for my poor brain

I generally keep a low key around these parts, but I just like improving systems and giving people the tools they need to make better decisions.

Maybe this is just my "public works" part of my life and feel I need to help where I can in the grey market of peptides which seems ironic in some way. Honestly I have never accepted money or "product" for my work I did for the AmoPure tests. AmoPure even offered me a free 60mg kit for our test results when I sent it to them, and I put it up as a lottery for the group. People did strong arm me in giving out my venmo for a few tips, I was not really for that.

 

[Kelso37]

I generally keep a low key around these parts, but I just like improving systems and giving people the tools they need to make better decisions.

Maybe this is just my "public works" part of my life and feel I need to help where I can in the grey market of peptides which seems ironic in some way. Honestly I have never accepted money or "product" for my work I did for the AmoPure tests. AmoPure even offered me a free 60mg kit for our test results when I sent it to them, and I put it up as a lottery for the group. People did strong arm me in giving out my venmo for a few tips, I was not really for that.

I think it sounds like an awesome idea if you are down!
Chain of custody is everything and the testing cost is “helped” by splitting the cost (and some vendor reimbursement) etc, and most importantly it helps provide customers with some reassurance in the way that we actually want reassurance ( and I say this meaning as customers what we can reasonably get as “reassurance” in this market) and it helps the vendor/ brand through their ability to market their consistency, purity etc through those customer driven tests etc.
Let’s make it happen! Thank you for leading us!!!

 

[Cndmk]

I think it sounds like an awesome idea if you are down!
Chain of custody is everything and the testing cost is “helped” by splitting the cost (and some vendor reimbursement) etc, and most importantly it helps provide customers with some reassurance in the way that we actually want reassurance ( and I say this meaning as customers what we can reasonably get as “reassurance” in this market) and it helps the vendor/ brand through their ability to market their consistency, purity etc through those customer driven tests etc.
Let’s make it happen! Thank you for leading us!!!

Got the costs and everything sent to QYC, it’s up to them if they are open to it and how many tests they want to subsidize.

Just don’t get upset at them if they aren’t down for trying this new design. Every spend is a risk, and I have no idea of their current financials.

 

[scarywood75]

Got the costs and everything sent to QYC, it’s up to them if they are open to it and how many tests they want to subsidize.

Just don’t get upset at them if they aren’t down for trying this new design. Every spend is a risk, and I have no idea of their current financials.

I've talked to them a bit and I don't think they'll mind

 

[Vanya Zheleva]

Never heard of them, which in today's world of pop-up resellers and scammers isn't a surprise.

What surprises me is that with at least a dozen well-known and reasonably reputable Chinese suppliers out there why people still feel it's worth experimenting with ones that nobody has ever heard of before. At some point chasing that savings of a buck or two a kit almost always ends in disappointment.

Please recommend few

 

[GuidoLoko]

So getting back to the group testing idea…i saw the one you did for Amopure and was impressed by it. You willing to do it with another vendor? I would like to do something similar to what you did with Amopure, just don’t have the time to help put it together, but would love to participate in something like that. Chain of custody is everything and knowing more about what we literally have is the end goal for all of us! Let me know what you think! And maybe we can find a vendor willing to do the reimbursement idea you mentioned too! Have they responded about your idea at all?

I’m with ya too! For me personally its been super overwhelming with all the research I’ve been doing the past 7-8+ months to keep everything straight from each platform (Vendor websites, FB groups, Reddit, this forum, and a couple steroid forums)
I have so much info (pdf’s, excel spreadsheets, google docs, screenshots etc) saved everywhere…
Oh plus a million WhatsApp messages lol n FB friend request n messages as well! I’m sure some other people are in the same boat and would like to finally find a vendor that we could trust , had fair prices, great customer service, smooth shipping process and of course products were what was promised.
Anyways….I’m more than willing to participate in a GB if someone more knowledgeable then me lol puts it all together and I have no issue to front a portion of the $$ for testing if the vendor shares in some of the cost for the testing. I think we should be the ones to send in one of our vials, maybe document with pics/video of us packaging up the vial n paperwork that we send in to the testing company…idk
I think the more documentation and “proof” we all put together (customer and vendor side) then the more trust, confidence and success we’d have in the end…should test results come back with positive results. I can’t see why a vendor would not wanna participate in something along these lines. Unless they are not interested in growing any larger
Just my thoughts and opinion

 

[Kelso37]

I’m with ya too! For me personally its been super overwhelming with all the research I’ve been doing the past 7-8+ months to keep everything straight from each platform (Vendor websites, FB groups, Reddit, this forum, and a couple steroid forums)
I have so much info (pdf’s, excel spreadsheets, google docs, screenshots etc) saved everywhere…
Oh plus a million WhatsApp messages lol n FB friend request n messages as well! I’m sure some other people are in the same boat and would like to finally find a vendor that we could trust , had fair prices, great customer service, smooth shipping process and of course products were what was promised.
Anyways….I’m more than willing to participate in a GB if someone more knowledgeable then me lol puts it all together and I have no issue to front a portion of the $$ for testing if the vendor shares in some of the cost for the testing. I think we should be the ones to send in one of our vials, maybe document with pics/video of us packaging up the vial n paperwork that we send in to the testing company…idk
I think the more documentation and “proof” we all put together (customer and vendor side) then the more trust, confidence and success we’d have in the end…should test results come back with positive results. I can’t see why a vendor would not wanna participate in something along these lines. Unless they are not interested in growing any larger
Just my thoughts and opinion

Agreed, it is a lot of info! My husband officially thinks I am crazy. But I don’t care, he won’t be complaining later when I am all skinny and my skin is glowing from GLOW! But yes I am down for a group testing if a vendor will agree so we can try to purchase from the same batch etc. I honestly do not see a single reason why a vendor would not want to do something like this. @Cndmk did SRY ever respond? Or @scarywood75 ?

 

[Kelso37]

Agreed, it is a lot of info! My husband officially thinks I am crazy. But I don’t care, he won’t be complaining later when I am all skinny and my skin is glowing from GLOW! But yes I am down for a group testing if a vendor will agree so we can try to purchase from the same batch etc. I honestly do not see a single reason why a vendor would not want to do something like this. @Cndmk did SRY ever respond? Or @scarywood75 ?

Wait sorry I might have meant QYC…I can’t keep all these acronyms straight! Sorry if that was confusing