rkl123
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I started laughing when they mentioned the afirm/klarna.
Tirzepatide shortage is over
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My provider just raised their rates. I'm not renewing after my contract ends. It's a serious cash grab.
I can get nearly a years worth of Tirz overseas, no GB, for the price of one month on my tele-med provider.
Jano tests is the golden standard in this space, imo.
As for your other questions, one important thing to note - Is that there are no guarantees and you will never get a definite answer.
Even if there is a test, it's hard to prove that you are being sent a product from the same batch. There are a few things that can be done with vial customization, but that's rare for now. Other than that, it's trust - So a vendor that is stable over time without any big issues would usually be safer but again not a guarantee.
Also keep in mind that a purity test has "nothing" to do with safety. It proves that the content of the vial matches the label.
Nothing wrong with filtering, if it's necessary though, that's up to you and your risk assessment, no one can tell you what you should and shouldn't do in order to stay safe: No guarantees, only higher or lower levels of comfort and confidence.
That said, there is not a high chance that you will get a product that is directly harmful. The more likely risk you run, is bunk/underdosed/slightly contaminated and other minor/"minor" issues.
So yeah, the confusion comes from the fact that no one can give you a definite answer or a definitely safe source (well, some could - but there are reasons why they usually can't just share it) - And even then, how are you supposed to know who can give you that answer and also don't have ulterior motives. The solution is to research until you feel comfortable
delululemonade
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Oh by overpriced I meant for the telehealth/compounding market. Personally I skipped compounding altogether, went straight from sharing a friend’s name brand prescription until I caught up to her dosage and she couldn’t slip me extras anymore to overseas/gray market haha. (She has that insurance that makes you fill 3 months at a time even if you only stay on a dose for 1 month so she had a massive stockpile, like literally couldn’t have used it all herself before it expired so she just gave it to me
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If it's important to them, they'll find the time to do the research - people have been happy to help me because, I think, I demonstrated to them that I do the research myself. And the research really never ends. I read threads, all the posts, here and elsewhere, I took notes, I went deep, and am still down so many rabbit holes, and I figured things out, and when I couldn't, I knew the questions to ask, and people answered. It's that - learning enough and then more to understand you now need to ask questions of people who are more experienced. This is serious stuff and I don't see it as gatekeeping but as reinforcing the truth that this isn't like going to the Dr for a prescription. Just when the end of shortage news went out, I got tons of emails on another server from strangers to me asking for everything, the basics, the how to, where, etc. I'm no expert, but I have put in a lot of hours learning - have spent most of this week reading and note taking on orientation guides, taking knowledge tests to gain entry into those serious and super secure places... I spent all day yesterday and today learning crypto and discovered it will be hard for me going that route because my state is so heavily regulated regarding crypto, and only after hours and hours of learning and figuring things out did I reach out to ask for help. My body, my research, we are here to help, certainly all the eminences are, but everyone, brand new folks here thrown out of name brand because of price or compound now, have to take personal responsibility for this path they are starting to walk.
Download all the calculators! Reconstituting is fun! I'm looking forward to my first filtering!This is my goal. I am starting with a person I know and trust. I get the “f&f” discount for 2months. Hopefully I will gain knowledge to do it myself.I feel pretty good since I already found dionysos and the lists. I also like that one storefront I researched is on their list. I am heading in the right direction. I think
. Now to learn how to reconstitute.
Shortage will be back quickly, I'd say!Well they def have to stop, if there isn't a shortage they have to stop compounding due to FDA regulations, like Broken Chef said they're just off loading their stock, but also they have 60 days from they time FDA announced the shortage was over to stop compounding so, they have time to get it together! Ive all Seen an ad on IG for G3 and Luxe, from what I gather g3 is Reta and that's what they are trying to offer now, im not sure what luxe was though... The lady in the ad was like oh this is better then Ozempic and Mounjaro it hits 3 hormones, blah blah blah..... lmaoooo. Frankly it seems like they are panicking and trying to figure out anything they can to supply the massive demand they have incurred!
InfoGatherer
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Appreciate your insight. Thank you
InfoGatherer
New Member
Thank you for your help! Much appreciatedI can't and will not directly say who to buy from but I can say I have seen people who have used Skye here so I would just keep reading to see if people are happy with them or not. As to testing, that is all on you and your comfort level when it comes to risk. I would look for reports that come from test that were paid for by the end users and not the seller. Not saying they are or are not legit but it's always better to have tests done by, well, not the seller
IMO filtering is a relatively cheap way to help ensure sterility and safety but this is once again a personal choice. I wasn't doing it until recently but I figured for like 50 dollars I can get all the stuff to filter for years and add just that little bit of extra comfort that I am doing the best I can.
lazygardener
New_Member
Also having had cellulitis from a wasp sting...Please don’t tell newbies that.Yikes! I mean…to each their own but don’t encourage that.
It really truly sucks even though antibiotics fix it. I'm filtering and still wipe with alcohol lol.
moonpies4misfits
Research Enthusiast
I got cellulitis from a bug bite of unknown origin. Thought it was a spider bite maybe. Seemed almost healed before the cellulitis started flaring up and it was TERRIBLE. At first we thought it was an allergic reaction to the bite (not uncommon for me to get localized reactions) so they gave me a steroid ointment. That made it worse. Three rounds of abx and almost ended up needing IV abx. It was the inside of my elbow and my entire arm was swollen and felt like it was on fire. I now have permanent swelling around my elbow. It's not super noticable unless I point it out. My dad jokes and calls it my popeye arm now
Please don’t spread things like this. Isopropanol is a very effective disinfectant. Chloraprep (which is a combo of chlorhexidine and isopropyl alcohol) is used as disinfectant for sterile procedures like lumbar punctures and central line insertion, and for pre-op skin prep. Sure, chloraprep is “more” effective in that the disinfectant effect lasts for some time… but isopropyl alcohol is absolutely effective.
That being said, I do get where you’re coming from- the risk of infection isn’t THAT high with subQ but it’s not zero… why chance it when alcohol is cheap af and is incredibly effective
Please don’t spread things like this. Isopropanol is a very effective disinfectant. Chloraprep (which is a combo of chlorhexidine and isopropyl alcohol) is used as disinfectant for sterile procedures like lumbar punctures and central line insertion, and for pre-op skin prep. Sure, chloraprep is “more” effective in that the disinfectant effect lasts for some time… but isopropyl alcohol is absolutely effective.
That being said, I do get where you’re coming from- the risk of infection isn’t THAT high with subQ but it’s not zero… why chance it when alcohol is cheap af and is incredibly effective
I stated above that I still swab my wife when I inject her skin. I probably shouldn't have even said anything on the subject.
By all means... swab. It can't hurt.
Inject those drugs made and obtained from dark unregulated sources overseas. Just be sure to swab your skin first.
oh shit really I didn't even know that, like I said I never heard of them before but I def want to read that reddit thread!
Same thing just happened to me. I am just starting out and heard the Group Buys are the way to go. But it appears member of this forum are ordering direct from places like AmoPure and Skye with good results. So I am going to continue to research these two source and then probably place an order. Any reason why not to?
Amopure is overseas. Skye is domestic.
Skye provides their own Jano certificates and ships fast. But they're going to be an order of magnitude more expensive than Amopure. I have nothing but good things to say about my experiences with Skye.
I wouldn't limit yourself to those two vendors. Do some research. If you read and dig enough, you're going to find links to other places where you can find more information.
There are lots of options available to you. I suggest that you take the time to research them and do your own due diligence. Skye can be a resource if you need to buy some time before ordering overseas products. Or you can use them exclusively. They're still cheaper than a med-spa or your tele-health provider assuming you have one.
Thank you for the advice. I am not in a hurry, I will continue my due diligence.
geoguy78
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We're all on a journey, it's not a race! Racing will get you burnt. I haven't heard a single bad thing about Skye. If you can afford it (they are still way cheaper than brand name/compounded though), I don't see anything wrong with sticking with them or some of the other top domestic vendors, even if just to buy time before committing to overseas. Big pharma does like to go after and shut down the domestics though, they are well within reach of the FDA and court system so something to keep in mind, as your source may close its doors abruptly. But we've seen that with some Chinese vendors, especially those selling via website.
Just a note for you on "group buys" There is a good thread somewhere on here talking about this.
Most of the group buys discussed on here are just vendor promotions where they are offering better pricing than their normal prices but you are still buying directly from the vendor.
A real group buy is something ran by a 3rd party as an intermediary but also offers extra independant testing alot of times (of course you have to decide if you trust these 3rd parties AND the vendor they are dealing with)...you don't see those on here really...
So far I have only done direct buys and vendor promotion buys.
