Tracy gone MIA?

peptideusername said:
I appreciate your optimism... but Q probably isn't coming back - and if they do, it's not like Tracy is going to wow you with customer service like he used to. lol
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I agree. That’s why I switched to another company. I had placed an order of 2 40 mg kits of Tirzepatide and 2 kits of 2 mg Sema. I received the Tirz but never received the Sema. When I would contact Tracy about it, all I received in response was the old Tirz tracking number, over and over. Finally, I just quit trying. They kept my $80 without any communication or attempt at atonement.
 
hexagonal said:
I can't really make up my mind on if I think it's really on the radar for the trade discussions.

On one hand, the fentanyl issue has been a major sticking point for over a decade now, and we're just now finally seeing traction on it.

On the other, it's obvious that if you take care of the opioid production that a lot of the peptide production is going to get caught up in it - SRY, ASC, and I think fairly obviously QSC have links there. I imagine all of the major peptide producers do. And if you're at the negotiating table on the trade side, maybe you get it lumped in.

But back to the first hand, opioid access is a major political talking point. If GLP-1s are a talking point, it's in the opposite direction - the lack of access. Does cracking down on them serve a political purpose? Does Lilly have the political power to fast track it?

I think it's a little unlikely - things just never seem to move that fast. But it's not an area I'd bet my life on things.
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I think it's possible GLP1s will be collateral damage of the fent crackdown. As we both speculated, it has to be a fairly significant portion of their business. Sometimes I wonder if SRY and QSC are just the rockstar indy resellers for the same pool of resources.

Like they got big enough and spent enough time on the front lines that they can afford to hire helpers.

I guess what I'm saying is... and this is just a hunch... that we can probably count the manufacturing sources for all our supply on one hand. There might be some a dozen or so finishers that take raws and press out some pills or make some oils. But if this small handful of manufacturers cease production... it's curtains for us. I'd expect prices to soar along with major supply constraints.

I hate to be the FUD guy, but EWB makes a pretty strong argument. If the new administration turns the right screws, it'd probably be cheaper for these guys to just take an extended holiday and come back in a few years when conditions are more favorable.
 
brentm said:
I think it's possible GLP1s will be collateral damage of the fent crackdown. As we both speculated, it has to be a fairly significant portion of their business. Sometimes I wonder if SRY and QSC are just the rockstar indy resellers for the same pool of resources.

Like they got big enough and spent enough time on the front lines that they can afford to hire helpers.

I guess what I'm saying is... and this is just a hunch... that we can probably count the manufacturing sources for all our supply on one hand. There might be some a dozen or so finishers that take raws and press out some pills or make some oils. But if this small handful of manufacturers cease production... it's curtains for us. I'd expect prices to soar along with major supply constraints.

I hate to be the FUD guy, but EWB makes a pretty strong argument. If the new administration turns the right screws, it'd probably be cheaper for these guys to just take an extended holiday and come back in a few years when conditions are more favorable.
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Yeah. Worries about it all is why I now have stockpiled quite a lot of peptides and AAS to last me through the next bit if necessary.

One thing that makes me think QSC might have a different source for at least some of it is that it sounds like they've been fairly consistently showing higher purity on HGH than the other Chinese suppliers, based on what I've read on a few other forums. I've not been shopping around that market long enough to have any idea how true that is, though.
 
chmuse said:
Maybe Tracy like, actually likes us though. Maybe they'll come back, just to tell us we're shitheads for old times sake.
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I'm hoping that Tracy reappears and starts cursing at us for thinking that he wasn't coming back. i want my "girl" back.
 
keangkong said:
I'm hoping that Tracy reappears and starts cursing at us for thinking that he wasn't coming back. i want my "girl" back.
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I am choosing blind optimism that our girl will come back😅Finally got up the courage to make the jump to international vendors for gray only for my first order to be seized by customs a week after QSC went dark. I need Tracy to surprise us all
 
Unthinmint said:
I am choosing blind optimism that our girl will come back😅Finally got up the courage to make the jump to international vendors for gray only for my first order to be seized by customs a week after QSC went dark. I need Tracy to surprise us all
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QSC was seized? Their stuff is generally cloaked so well it's been said that it gets the hand wave...
 
brentm said:
I think it's possible GLP1s will be collateral damage of the fent crackdown. As we both speculated, it has to be a fairly significant portion of their business. Sometimes I wonder if SRY and QSC are just the rockstar indy resellers for the same pool of resources.

Like they got big enough and spent enough time on the front lines that they can afford to hire helpers.

I guess what I'm saying is... and this is just a hunch... that we can probably count the manufacturing sources for all our supply on one hand. There might be some a dozen or so finishers that take raws and press out some pills or make some oils. But if this small handful of manufacturers cease production... it's curtains for us. I'd expect prices to soar along with major supply constraints.

I hate to be the FUD guy, but EWB makes a pretty strong argument. If the new administration turns the right screws, it'd probably be cheaper for these guys to just take an extended holiday and come back in a few years when conditions are more favorable.
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I'm just hoping with time that the customs officials and the makers of GLP-1 drugs will adapt. If the GLP-1 drug makers need to only make GLP-1 drugs, hey, there is plenty of money in that. As to customs, they don't want to spent much time and money dealing with GLP-1 drugs. The political pressure (rightly) is on for them to stop the introduction of fentanyl. As with other drugs of abuse, stopping people from using them will involve more than just reducing supply. Right now it seems to be allowed by the FDA for domestic folks to sell tirzepatide, semaglutide, and retatrutide so long as the sellers state that the substance is for research use only and the sellers also refrain from making any statements suggesting that the substance is actually intended to be used on humans.
 
zpped said:
Are you being sarcastic? Of course glp1s are being seized. It happens all the time.
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How do they know they're peptides? Have you ordered from QSC? You get beauty product packaging and basically have to match your products with numbering given to you in an email which is likely also your tracking data.

You think US Customs is HPLC scanning powders that say they're skin products?
 
Lullabytreehugger said:
Something tells me this bust is serious and tracy gone for good …
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I was just discussing some possible conspiracy theories....

Take the zero pep issue. Not just one vendor. Not just one product line. Someone who was trusted in the supply chain, higher up than our vendors, decided to exit the market with one final rugpull. Likely a manufacturer or finisher.

I don't think reputations recover from that... so it seems someone who supplied some of our GLP1s has left the building.

Tracy making a fast exit.

Amolist website offline.

Things aren't looking good. Might be time to pull the trigger on whatever you've been on the edge to buy.
 
brentm said:
I was just discussing some possible conspiracy theories....

Take the zero pep issue. Not just one vendor. Not just one product line. Someone who was trusted in the supply chain, higher up than our vendors, decided to exit the market with one final rugpull. Likely a manufacturer or finisher.

I don't think reputations recover from that... so it seems someone who supplied some of our GLP1s has left the building.

Tracy making a fast exit.

Amolist website offline.

Things aren't looking good. Might be time to pull the trigger on whatever you've been on the edge to buy.
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"Might be time to pull the trigger on whatever you've been on the edge to buy." - is exactly what someone invested in said rug pull would say 🧐

Jokes aside though, from a nihilistic newbie's perspective this is all fascinating and hilarious. (nihilistic only because that's the best way to cope with my first large order disappearing into the ether (i.e. Xi's nephew's bitcoin wallet))
 
squeezealemon said:
"Might be time to pull the trigger on whatever you've been on the edge to buy." - is exactly what someone invested in said rug pull would say 🧐

Jokes aside though, from a nihilistic newbie's perspective this is all fascinating and hilarious. (nihilistic only because that's the best way to cope with my first large order disappearing into the ether (i.e. Xi's nephew's bitcoin wallet))
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Yeah I'm a shill for the rug pull.

I bought another years worth through PGB yesterday. I considered a few GBs that would have saved money, but the risk was too high given the climate.

Boating accidents are a popular way to lose your Bitcoin wallets. Highly recommend them.

Orders have a way of showing up unless they were caught by customs.
 
brentm said:
I was just discussing some possible conspiracy theories....

Take the zero pep issue. Not just one vendor. Not just one product line. Someone who was trusted in the supply chain, higher up than our vendors, decided to exit the market with one final rugpull. Likely a manufacturer or finisher.

I don't think reputations recover from that... so it seems someone who supplied some of our GLP1s has left the building.

Tracy making a fast exit.

Amolist website offline.

Things aren't looking good. Might be time to pull the trigger on whatever you've been on the edge to buy.
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Amopure went offline a few months ago. Amolist still communicates with me via Whatsapp. As to someone high up in the supply chain pulling a massive scam and then disappearing, that makes some sense. Still China is a huge place with a resilient economy. I don' believe that it's so hard to manufacture GLP-1 drugs that the Chinese market can't add suppliers. While half the zippers in the world are made by YKK (a Japanese company), for instance, YKK only manages to maintain that market dominance by producing good zippers at reasonable prices. Assuming there are only a few major suppliers in China, as many have said, then if one of more goes down, others will likely pop up. This isn't Russia; the place is not so corrupt that they'll eliminate all but one well-connected company.
 
keangkong said:
Amopure went offline a few months ago. Amolist still communicates with me via Whatsapp. As to someone high up in the supply chain pulling a massive scam and then disappearing, that makes some sense. Still China is a huge place with a resilient economy. I don' believe that it's so hard to manufacture GLP-1 drugs that the Chinese market can't add suppliers. While half the zippers in the world are made by YKK (a Japanese company), for instance, YKK only manages to maintain that market dominance by producing good zippers at reasonable prices. Assuming there are only a few major suppliers in China, as many have said, then if one of more goes down, others will likely pop up. This isn't Russia; the place is not so corrupt that they'll eliminate all but one well-connected company.
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A few months 😂 I don’t think it’s even been two weeks
 
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