You did call it.…. Did I call that one or what? Not engaging on the substance, just saying it’s bias that came to exist for no apparent reason.
You did call it.…. Did I call that one or what? Not engaging on the substance, just saying it’s bias that came to exist for no apparent reason.
For the record, I have ordered from Cain too, and had no problems. I was simply trying to educate myself on things I've read about him regarding his past. It started with using the name Shanghai but had no ties to China other than where the peptides come from. Not judging, just a fact. Like many people, I thought it was another Chinese supplier like any other. Then I found out he's as U.S. as any one of us. I found that a little odd but, he seems to have a good customer following so, whatever, As I'm learning more about this peptide world, I just asked here if anyone had some of the backstory. Exploitedworkerbee offered specifics. I'm just trying to figure out if he went too far, which could be the case based on the details apparently on a Peppys post someone else here referenced (I'm still looking for that), and if he's backed off from that after maybe learning a lesson. Doesn't matter to me either way, other than finding out the truth. Why do I want to find out the truth? Because as I learn, I try to pay it forward to others to help and then I learn more in the process. I don't want to unknowingly pass on incorrect information because it looks bad on me and I don't want to cast anyone in a bad light. Now, if someone did something wrong, or I think is wrong, I will say why, engage in a meaningful discussion about it, and admit I'm wrong if that's the case. If not, I will stand by what I say. All of this is hard, finding and speaking the truth. It's easy to talk in vague generalities to try and take the focus away from whatever the issue is if someone has no solid info or, if someone just has a baseless opinion they want to be the truth. That's not how I operate. So, again, not bashing Cain at all. For those of you old enough to know, from the late great Paul Harvey, I just want to know "....the rest of the story."I've ordered from Cain and had no problems. WAY faster than China orders and sometimes pricing is just as good, sometimes not.
I use a syringe filter and a sterile vial and filter it into the sterile vial. That eliminates this concern.I received my Reta from Nexaph. Is it normal for them to use darkened glass? I would prefer to be able to see clearly once reconstituted to look for contaminants etc
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What happens if you say "EZpens"?Say Nexaph 3 times in front of a mirror and @exploitedworkerbee will appear behind you.
I hope our girl Tracy is back soon.I hate it when my drug dealers lie to me. You mean Tracy is really a dude?
I have ordered from Cain several times and received high quality products and had a good experience. The bad Reta he sent (that I actually bought through a GB) was automatically reshipped requiring no action from me. I have also ordered from Tracy, Tuk Angel, SRY, PGB and others. As long as I receive a good product, that tests well, in a timely manner, all is good. I don't care if they claim to be a man/women, Chinese, Japanese, Russian or North Korean, as long as they deliver a good product.
Eventually, one of these vendors is going let me down but until then I will continue to order from them.
My suspicion is that all the vendors that we regularly hear about are probably fine for reta and tirz. I say probably because with the exception of Eli Lilly, most compounding pharmacies, and a few grey US vendors, you should always be a little skeptical that you won't be burned. That's not an insult to Cain or the other vendors; it's just I don't know them. I've never bought from him because he tends to be pricier than many of the Chinese vendors. However, he's under much scrutiny. Being under scrutiny is a good thing. You want vendors whose work is greatly scrutinized. If every now and then something turns up wrong with a product, that's to be expected. You then watch how the vendor deals with situation. Do they minimize things? Or after getting a bad test result, do they email/Whatsapp all those who ordered from them telling them that there was a problem and that they're going to fix it?I have had 5 orders with Cain before going CN direct. All were received in a few days. I ask a question I get an answer fast. Not the best price, but very convenient. The recent reta 24 works just fine, broken pucks dissolved easily and clear. Seems he was pretty transparent on that deal. That's been my experience at least.
What can I say, I’m driven to warn folks against dishonest vendor behavior and—either because you’re a moron, you’re exceptionally dishonest, or both—you’ve got a long rap sheet.Say Nexaph 3 times in front of a mirror and @exploitedworkerbee will appear behind you.
Yeah, that was a bit odd for a vendor to post that.........the mystery continues.What can I say, I’m driven to warn folks against dishonest vendor behavior and—either because you’re a moron, you’re exceptionally dishonest, or both—you’ve got a long rap sheet.
@Cain_SPC has been threadbanned. If he wanted to engage on substance he’d have done so, but he opted to troll. Vendors trolling mods because they don’t like their dishonesty being discussed isn’t behavior that’ll
I hope I don't rub someone the wrong way (as it is not my intent whatsoever) but why are we focused so much on truth. I for once only care for quality, price, and fast and reliable shipping. The guy could have been a killer in his past life and I wouldn't know nor even care. I've never spoken to him and doubt I'll ever do. I've placed 4 orders, and all went the easiest and smoothest from all other venders I've tried, and price was very competitive (if not the cheapest it was within 10 bucks on a 200-dollar order). To be clear I usually buy products he has on sale otherwise his prices tend to be higher than some others. I hope people will talk more and inform us all about their experience and quality of his product (to the extent that there is third party info on that) as opposed to finding out if he is saint or a devil LOLother than finding out the truth.
I hope I don't rub someone the wrong way (as it is not my intent whatsoever) but why are we focused so much on truth. I for once only care for quality, price, and fast and reliable shipping. The guy could have been a killer in his past life and I wouldn't know nor even care. I've never spoken to him and doubt I'll ever do. I've placed 4 orders, and all went the easiest and smoothest from all other venders I've tried, and price was very competitive (if not the cheapest it was within 10 bucks in a 200-dollar order). I hope people will talk more and inform us all about their experience and quality of his product (to the extent that there is third party info on that) as opposed to finding out if he is saint or a devil LOL
Since you're so worried about substance here's a substance for you he has great chemicals that work so is that enough substance for you buddy? You keep bringing up the past about this vendor but it's his past he has great stuff now and that's all we're worried about is it. I'd also like to see you start up a profile and vendor page and do the same thing he is doing without any problems at all or any people saying that you do something negative and immoral challenge accepted?What can I say, I’m driven to warn folks against dishonest vendor behavior and—either because you’re a moron, you’re exceptionally dishonest, or both—you’ve got a long rap sheet.
@Cain_SPC has been threadbanned. If he wanted to engage on substance he’d have done so, but he opted to troll. Vendors trolling mods because they don’t like their dishonesty being discussed isn’t behavior that’ll be accepted.
You’re incorrect that selling peptides automatically leads to accusations of bad behavior. If I started a peptide business my competitive advantage would be ethical and honest behavior, which would earn the trust of the community. This is the model that Arctic used and Polaris uses, both saw great success and no controversy.Since you're so worried about substance here's a substance for you he has great chemicals that work so is that enough substance for you buddy? You keep bringing up the past about this vendor but it's his past he has great stuff now and that's all we're worried about is it. I'd also like to see you start up a profile and vendor page and do the same thing he is doing without any problems at all or any people saying that you do something negative and immoral challenge accepted?
This would be very concerning. I would definitely want to know of any test results (good or bad).Not to mention quite a few bad tests that you’re willfully ignoring
He had a voice if he wished to engage about ethics. Instead of doing so he chose to troll a mod, which is not a dynamic (vendors trolling mods) that is healthy for the site. Trolling mods is a privilege you lose when you start profiting financially from a platform that is paid for by Zippity personally and run by volunteer labor. Not to worry, he has plenty of simps who are stepping in for him, some of which are very likely his alts given his demonstrated history.@exploitedworkerbee
To preface, I’ve never ordered from this Nexaph guy and have just been doing my own due diligence in learning about his work ethics and what not.
While I agree that ethically there is some fucked up shit about his past and maybe somewhat present (anecdotally seems like he’s gotten better with that but who truly knows). Wouldn’t you say it’s too far to thread ban him? I would think it’s more reasonable for him to get shit on by reputable people like you but allow him to continue to have a voice and allow the people to decide for themselves whether ethics is something they care about.
Just my logic.
First I was Secretly Stairmaster, can I be Secretly Cain next?He had a voice if he wished to engage about ethics. Instead of doing so he chose to troll a mod, which is not a dynamic (vendors trolling mods) that is healthy for the site. Trolling mods is a privilege you lose when you start profiting financially from a platform that is paid for by Zippity personally and run by volunteer labor. Not to worry, he has plenty of simps who are stepping in for him, some of which are very likely his alts given his demonstrated history.