its a cat and mouse game if you find good product buy it and save it while you can because the next day in this business is never a for sure thing. Ive had brokers that went years no problems then overnight nothing. I dont hold it personal its just business and i move on with my next broker.
100%. I am a little indifferent about all this from the standpoint that I buy "legit" stuff from China regularly for my business. So, I'm used to communicating with them, how they operate, etc. I don't wait for something to happen. If I smell something funny, I find another source.
The evidence doesn't point to QSC having scammed anyone; they appear to have been busted. If you’re as old school as you say you are then you ought to understand and appreciate the distinction. If Nexa gets busted and Baba is sitting in jail, you shouldn't expect to receive outstanding orders either. That's a risk you take with every single vendor.
And he stated in a vendor post on another platform that Nexaph:
Well damn. That is quite the smoking gun. Much different than just using Chinese name. How long ago was that? Is that post still up?
Post is still up on Peppy’s under “Vendor Posts”
I've heard of that but not on that forum. Where is that?
this feels like whataboutism. just because someone mentions they think one vendor is untrustworthy doesn't mean they automatically have to mention every other vendor they've deemed untrustworthy. multiple vendors can be untrustworthy at the same time, and they're discussed in the relevant threads about them.
This forum is bias against cain so you wont find many people trying to stand up for him or have ordered and tested his product personally. But a few of us have bought from him no problems
…. Did I call that one or what? Not engaging on the substance, just saying it’s bias that came to exist for no apparent reason.
You did call it.
For the record, I have ordered from Cain too, and had no problems. I was simply trying to educate myself on things I've read about him regarding his past. It started with using the name Shanghai but had no ties to China other than where the peptides come from. Not judging, just a fact. Like many people, I thought it was another Chinese supplier like any other. Then I found out he's as U.S. as any one of us. I found that a little odd but, he seems to have a good customer following so, whatever, As I'm learning more about this peptide world, I just asked here if anyone had some of the backstory. Exploitedworkerbee offered specifics. I'm just trying to figure out if he went too far, which could be the case based on the details apparently on a Peppys post someone else here referenced (I'm still looking for that), and if he's backed off from that after maybe learning a lesson. Doesn't matter to me either way, other than finding out the truth. Why do I want to find out the truth? Because as I learn, I try to pay it forward to others to help and then I learn more in the process. I don't want to unknowingly pass on incorrect information because it looks bad on me and I don't want to cast anyone in a bad light. Now, if someone did something wrong, or I think is wrong, I will say why, engage in a meaningful discussion about it, and admit I'm wrong if that's the case. If not, I will stand by what I say. All of this is hard, finding and speaking the truth. It's easy to talk in vague generalities to try and take the focus away from whatever the issue is if someone has no solid info or, if someone just has a baseless opinion they want to be the truth. That's not how I operate. So, again, not bashing Cain at all. For those of you old enough to know, from the late great Paul Harvey, I just want to know "....the rest of the story."
I use a syringe filter and a sterile vial and filter it into the sterile vial. That eliminates this concern.
What happens if you say "EZpens"?
I hope our girl Tracy is back soon.
My suspicion is that all the vendors that we regularly hear about are probably fine for reta and tirz. I say probably because with the exception of Eli Lilly, most compounding pharmacies, and a few grey US vendors, you should always be a little skeptical that you won't be burned. That's not an insult to Cain or the other vendors; it's just I don't know them. I've never bought from him because he tends to be pricier than many of the Chinese vendors. However, he's under much scrutiny. Being under scrutiny is a good thing. You want vendors whose work is greatly scrutinized. If every now and then something turns up wrong with a product, that's to be expected. You then watch how the vendor deals with situation. Do they minimize things? Or after getting a bad test result, do they email/Whatsapp all those who ordered from them telling them that there was a problem and that they're going to fix it?
What can I say, I’m driven to warn folks against dishonest vendor behavior and—either because you’re a moron, you’re exceptionally dishonest, or both—you’ve got a long rap sheet.
Yeah, that was a bit odd for a vendor to post that.........the mystery continues.
I hope I don't rub someone the wrong way (as it is not my intent whatsoever) but why are we focused so much on truth. I for once only care for quality, price, and fast and reliable shipping. The guy could have been a killer in his past life and I wouldn't know nor even care. I've never spoken to him and doubt I'll ever do. I've placed 4 orders, and all went the easiest and smoothest from all other venders I've tried, and price was very competitive (if not the cheapest it was within 10 bucks on a 200-dollar order). To be clear I usually buy products he has on sale otherwise his prices tend to be higher than some others. I hope people will talk more and inform us all about their experience and quality of his product (to the extent that there is third party info on that) as opposed to finding out if he is saint or a devil LOL
Since you're so worried about substance here's a substance for you he has great chemicals that work so is that enough substance for you buddy? You keep bringing up the past about this vendor but it's his past he has great stuff now and that's all we're worried about is it. I'd also like to see you start up a profile and vendor page and do the same thing he is doing without any problems at all or any people saying that you do something negative and immoral challenge accepted?
You’re incorrect that selling peptides automatically leads to accusations of bad behavior. If I started a peptide business my competitive advantage would be ethical and honest behavior, which would earn the trust of the community. This is the model that Arctic used and Polaris uses, both saw great success and no controversy.
This would be very concerning. I would definitely want to know of any test results (good or bad).
He had a voice if he wished to engage about ethics. Instead of doing so he chose to troll a mod, which is not a dynamic (vendors trolling mods) that is healthy for the site. Trolling mods is a privilege you lose when you start profiting financially from a platform that is paid for by Zippity personally and run by volunteer labor. Not to worry, he has plenty of simps who are stepping in for him, some of which are very likely his alts given his demonstrated history.
First I was Secretly Stairmaster, can I be Secretly Cain next?
