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since you are telling people that cain is not trustworthy how about adding QSC or ASC how they are some of the most trusted people on here that just outright scammed people out of alot of product.
Cain may not be upfront with you but as someone thats been in the game a long time i would never tell people my info or source of product. Nexaph product works just like every other china vendor on here. As for principles people this is the same as buying on the darkweb you need to do research and expect to be scammed a few times its the price of going grey! The majority of the china factories are gross and not clean whatsoever ive been ordering RCs from china for over 20 years now and its always the same a vendor will pump then dump or shoot out after something happens over in china they get arrested or gangs take over they have a hundred reasons why stuff goes wrong over there.
If you are new to this game buy a little to try it out if you like it put them on your list and be aware that being scammed or getting bunk product can happen with ANY vendor that sells Grey market
The fact that Nexpha takes CC is just one layer of protection that most others dont allow.
Remember is just a Journey so enjoy the Trip!
this feels like whataboutism. just because someone mentions they think one vendor is untrustworthy doesn't mean they automatically have to mention every other vendor they've deemed untrustworthy. multiple vendors can be untrustworthy at the same time, and they're discussed in the relevant threads about them.
 
The evidence doesn't point to QSC having scammed anyone; they appear to have been busted. If you’re as old school as you say you are then you ought to understand and appreciate the distinction. If Nexa gets busted and Baba is sitting in jail, you shouldn't expect to receive outstanding orders either. That's a risk you take with every single vendor.

As for ASC, I haven’t been following, but if they're scamming people, great—go discuss it in a relevant thread instead of throwing out red herrings to divert the conversation here.

I've heard of that but not on that forum. Where is that?
This forum is bias against cain so you wont find many people trying to stand up for him or have ordered and tested his product personally. But a few of us have bought from him no problems
 
Just wait, they'll come out of the woodwork here shortly and say that people just have an "axe to grind," ignoring any of the substance of what was said above.
This forum is bias against cain
…. Did I call that one or what? Not engaging on the substance, just saying it’s bias that came to exist for no apparent reason.
 
I've ordered from Cain and had no problems. WAY faster than China orders and sometimes pricing is just as good, sometimes not.
 
I've ordered from Cain and had no problems. WAY faster than China orders and sometimes pricing is just as good, sometimes not.
For the record, I have ordered from Cain too, and had no problems. I was simply trying to educate myself on things I've read about him regarding his past. It started with using the name Shanghai but had no ties to China other than where the peptides come from. Not judging, just a fact. Like many people, I thought it was another Chinese supplier like any other. Then I found out he's as U.S. as any one of us. I found that a little odd but, he seems to have a good customer following so, whatever, As I'm learning more about this peptide world, I just asked here if anyone had some of the backstory. Exploitedworkerbee offered specifics. I'm just trying to figure out if he went too far, which could be the case based on the details apparently on a Peppys post someone else here referenced (I'm still looking for that), and if he's backed off from that after maybe learning a lesson. Doesn't matter to me either way, other than finding out the truth. Why do I want to find out the truth? Because as I learn, I try to pay it forward to others to help and then I learn more in the process. I don't want to unknowingly pass on incorrect information because it looks bad on me and I don't want to cast anyone in a bad light. Now, if someone did something wrong, or I think is wrong, I will say why, engage in a meaningful discussion about it, and admit I'm wrong if that's the case. If not, I will stand by what I say. All of this is hard, finding and speaking the truth. It's easy to talk in vague generalities to try and take the focus away from whatever the issue is if someone has no solid info or, if someone just has a baseless opinion they want to be the truth. That's not how I operate. So, again, not bashing Cain at all. For those of you old enough to know, from the late great Paul Harvey, I just want to know "....the rest of the story."
 
Nexaph just had some good 3rd party test results on their reta lately. We even did one a month or so later and it was still good.

Another option is to see it someone would sell you extra vials at cost but make sure its not a scammer
 
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