USA Domestic Source / Shipping

[chmuse]

Just to be clear, I am not not bashing Cain at all. Why are there hate threads? Did he do something to warrant that? I don't have a dog in this hunt either way. I'm just studying this whole underground industry for my own benefit. I like what he's put together because he's seem to have found a niche between the US resellers that mark up the stuff 300-500%, and the frustrations of sourcing and waiting for products doing it yourself. I'm buying from China and found a good source.....but am dealing with shipping frustrations.

You are on to something about the trust issue. No matter which way one looks at it, and if looked at 100% objectively, all of this is about trust - even through big pharma. Yes, it's all debatable and if done in a productive way, beneficial to everyone. I get turned off also when people start dumping on others with no logical basis. Thanks for all the good responses from everyone. Helps flatten the learning curve a bit.

There's a few different things there, and I wasn't around for all of them. There's a bunch of threads on it if you take a look around, but they generally end up with a lot of bickering and interforum bullshit.

-misrepresented themselves as being a Chinese vendor (they say they make their own product, which I'm inclined to believe they do have a hand in the production, but others think they are a domestic reseller)
-shipped out reta that rapidly degraded. They replaced it for everyone that ordered, without requiring people to reach out to them individually, and people are currently waiting on the retest to see if the new product is better.
-some confusion on the filler used at one point, I don't really remember what came of that other than one product had something unexpected, and nexa panicked and assumed other products had it too. Turns out they didn't, but they'd already said the products did, which sowed further distrust among people who were already wary of them- why didn't they know what was used in the making of their own product etc.
-some people don't like the prices charged for the product, assuming it's actually from China, when you look at other group buys. But they're still significantly cheaper than any other domestic.

I'm sure there's other stuff but I don't want to stir up shit again and get called a shill because I like them. I figure everyone in the market is at least a little shady, and with Nexa I get it fast, I can use a credit card, I can personally ask questions of the owner, and it's being tested over and over, so if something goes wrong someone's going to shout it from the rooftops. Also, he wasn't hit by the latest zero pep thing, so he's probably at least getting from a different vendor than everyone else even if he is a reseller. All of the various Chinese companies are resellers too which was pretty much proven with the zero peps.

 

[rschneida]

There's a few different things there, and I wasn't around for all of them. There's a bunch of threads on it if you take a look around, but they generally end up with a lot of bickering and interforum bullshit.

-misrepresented themselves as being a Chinese vendor (they say they make their own product, which I'm inclined to believe they do have a hand in the production, but others think they are a domestic reseller)
-shipped out reta that rapidly degraded. They replaced it for everyone that ordered, without requiring people to reach out to them individually, and people are currently waiting on the retest to see if the new product is better.
-some confusion on the filler used at one point, I don't really remember what came of that other than one product had something unexpected, and nexa panicked and assumed other products had it too. Turns out they didn't, but they'd already said the products did, which sowed further distrust among people who were already wary of them- why didn't they know what was used in the making of their own product etc.
-some people don't like the prices charged for the product, assuming it's actually from China, when you look at other group buys. But they're still significantly cheaper than any other domestic.

I'm sure there's other stuff but I don't want to stir up shit again and get called a shill because I like them. I figure everyone in the market is at least a little shady, and with Nexa I get it fast, I can use a credit card, I can personally ask questions of the owner, and it's being tested over and over, so if something goes wrong someone's going to shout it from the rooftops. Also, he wasn't hit by the latest zero pep thing, so he's probably at least getting from a different vendor than everyone else even if he is a reseller. All of the various Chinese companies are resellers too which was pretty much proven with the zero peps.

Thanks for the education. Hell, most companies in the US are shady. No pun intended but all this is gray. Again it goes back to trust and then how each company handles things when problems arise. I agree with you on it being easy to deal with him. Everyone has their way of wanting to do things and the biases that go along with it.

There are labs in.China that do sell just.like the Chinese resellers. I've found one, maybe two. They want a piece of the reseller action because they see the opportunity. But since they are focused on production, they are not good with the distribution/shipping. It is a PITA to deal with that but, for me, I like dealing with the source.so, I.put up with it. I realize that is not what most people want. I digress a little from Cain but, it's all connected. Thanks again.

 

[chmuse]

Thanks for the education. Hell, most companies in the US are shady. No pun intended but all this is gray. Again it goes back to trust and then how each company handles things when problems arise. I agree with you on it being easy to deal with him. Everyone has their way of wanting to do things and the biases that go along with it.

There are labs in.China that do sell just.like the Chinese resellers. I've found one, maybe two. They want a piece of the reseller action because they see the opportunity. But since they are focused on production, they are not good with the distribution/shipping. It is a PITA to deal with that but, for me, I like dealing with the source.so, I.put up with it. I realize that is not what most people want. I digress a little from Cain but, it's all connected. Thanks again.

No I gotcha. On the one hand I'd prefer to deal with the source, less likely to have outside factors affecting the product. But customer service is also important to me, I honestly just don't want to deal with the headache of figuring out crypto yet, and I don't want to wait weeks for product or have to chase down a vendor if I have an issue.

 

[rschneida]

Right there with you bud. I'm on week four for one of my orders. I'm hoping that once I get my stock where I want it, this becomes less of an issue.🤞🤞🤞....it's all about hobby-ish. Trying to figure out all the pieces though.

 

[Yllekflores]

Right there with you bud. I'm on week four for one of my orders. I'm hoping that once I get my stock where I want it, this becomes less of an issue.🤞🤞🤞....it's all about hobby-ish. Trying to figure out all the pieces though.

Is it normal to wait that long? I placed an order with sry lisa that it’s taking a bit longer compared to my last order and I’m starting to get worried

 

[rschneida]

Is it normal to wait that long? I placed an order with sry lisa that it’s taking a bit longer compared to my last order and I’m starting to get worried

It's not out of the ordinary. Some are much better than others. I think my issue is that I'm dealing with a lab and not a reseller. I think SRY is a reseller and, they are typically a little faster. Update on the four weeks......USPS just showed my package in my city. I knew it hit the states but the lack of tracking info had me worried customs caught it.

 

[Yllekflores]

It's not out of the ordinary. Some are much better than others. I think my issue is that I'm dealing with a lab and not a reseller. I think SRY is a reseller and, they are typically a little faster. Update on the four weeks......USPS just showed my package in my city. I knew it hit the states but the lack of tracking info had me worried customs caught it.

It's not out of the ordinary. Some are much better than others. I think my issue is that I'm dealing with a lab and not a reseller. I think SRY is a reseller and, they are typically a little faster. Update on the four weeks......USPS just showed my package in my city. I knew it hit the states but the lack of tracking info had me worried customs

 

[Yllekflores]

Thanks for the reply and I

It's not out of the ordinary. Some are much better than others. I think my issue is that I'm dealing with a lab and not a reseller. I think SRY is a reseller and, they are typically a little faster. Update on the four weeks......USPS just showed my package in my city. I knew it hit the states but the lack of tracking info had me worried customs caught it.

I’m happy to hear that 🙂
Sry told me today that the package was inspected by customs. Im not sure what that means in terms of arrival, I’m waiting for a reply, I’ll do more research in the mean time. Thanks

 

[rschneida]

Thanks for the reply and I

I’m happy to hear that 🙂
Sry told me today that the package was inspected by customs. Im not sure what that means in terms of arrival, I’m waiting for a reply, I’ll do more research in the mean time. Thanks

That means it's in the US and most likely cleared customers. Those are the two.big hurdles. I think you are good....except for the shifty USPS service 🤣

 

[Yllekflores]

That means it's in the US and most likely cleared customers. Those are the two.big hurdles. I think you are good....except for the shifty USPS service 🤣

I feel so much better now!! Thanks 🙂
They are using fedex, so hopefully delivery is less “shifty” lol
what would you say is the price difference between labs and resellers? Are you happy with the labs so far? Besides shipping issues?

 

[rschneida]

I feel so much better now!! Thanks 🙂
They are using fedex, so hopefully delivery is less “shifty” lol
what would you say is the price difference between labs and resellers? Are you happy with the labs so far? Besides shipping issues?lol

 

[rschneida]

lol....that was supposed to be "shitty". Damn autocorrect. The prices are really the same. I'm happy with the lab itself. How much are they charging for FedEx if you don't mind? I'm paying $50 for as much as I want to order but it's China post....their version of USPS.

 

[Yllekflores]

shipping is $50 plus other fees Alipay charges 6% plus a payment processing fee of 3%. Would you mind sharing your lab info and price list if it’s not too inconvenient? Ordering directly from the manufacturer makes more sense.

 

[rschneida]

shipping is $50 plus other fees Alipay charges 6% plus a payment processing fee of 3%. Would you mind sharing your lab info and price list if it’s not too inconvenient? Ordering directly from the manufacturer makes more sense.

I'm paying 5.3% on PayPal. I wouldn't on crypto but I don't do crypto. I don't mind sharing the lab contact but not sure about putting the name out there. The guy goes by Jack. His WhatsApp is +1 (442) 243-8186. Here's a little more, he has a US warehouse. If he has what you're looking for there, by all means get it there. It might be $5-$10 more per kit but, it.ships FedEx and you will have it in two days. If you are a negotiator, you might be able to get it at China prices. If he sends it from.China, do not be in a hurry. lol. Also, please let him know Bob referred you. He's a straight up guy in my experience so.far. Yes.I might get a discount on a future order but, for anyone wanting to take a dump on this post (they're out there), I'm not making any money on this. Just trying to help the community.

 

[Yllekflores]

I'm paying 5.3% on PayPal. I wouldn't on crypto but I don't do crypto. I don't mind sharing the lab contact but not sure about putting the name out there. The guy goes by Jack. His WhatsApp is +1 (442) 243-8186. Here's a little more, he has a US warehouse. If he has what you're looking for there, by all means get it there. It might be $5-$10 more per kit but, it.ships FedEx and you will have it in two days. If you are a negotiator, you might be able to get it at China prices. If he sends it from.China, do not be in a hurry. lol. Also, please let him know Bob referred you. He's a straight up guy in my experience so.far. Yes.I might get a discount on a future order but, for anyone wanting to take a dump on this post (they're out there), I'm not making any money on this. Just trying to help the community.

Thanks a bunch😊 I’ve saved his info and I will definitely mention your referral. I’m so happy I found people like you in this forum ❤️❤️

 

[rschneida]

Thanks a bunch😊 I’ve saved his info and I will definitely mention your referral. I’m so happy I found people like you in this forum ❤️❤️

You're welcome! Hope it helps. I'm by no means an expert with all this.....I'm just analytically obsessed 🤣🤣

 

[tyrus-pgh]

SRY currently has a promo for stock from their US warehouse - 330$/300mg free shipping.

Thread 'SRYLab Christmas promotion! ! !American warehouse delivery! ! !'

Dec 22, 2024

Notice:
🎄🎄🎄Christmas activities!🎄🎄🎄
tirz 30mg 180=1 kit +free shipping
tirz 30mg 320=2 kits +free shipping
tirz 40mg 200= 1 kit + free shipping
tirz 40mg 330= 2kits+ free shipping
tirz 60mg 300 = 1 kit +free shipping
Reta 20mg 260=1 kit + free shipping
Reta 30mg 330 =1 kit+ free shipping
The parcel is sent from the American warehouse and delivered in 2-3 days. The kits have not yet arrived at the US warehouse, only the price has been announced. Because some people have been waiting for the price to compare with other sources to make a better choice. I wish everyone a Merry...

• SRY Lab Lucy
• Replies: 0
• Forum: Vendor Connection

• 

I just got my Reta shipment from SRY. Very happy!

 

[rschneida]

I just got my Reta shipment from SRY. Very happy!

That's a good deal!

 

[tyrus-pgh]

Compounding regulations changed in the US this year to require any medication that has a light sensitivity (tirz and a lot of others do) to use amber vials. That said, this is the first I've seen come from China.

Good to see China following the rules! Haha…

 

[rschneida]

Good to see China following the rules! Haha…

🤣🤣🤣

 

[nonyabizznez]

Is it normal to wait that long? I placed an order with sry lisa that it’s taking a bit longer compared to my last order and I’m starting to get worried

I wouldn't worry. Their last "domestic" promo doesn't seem domestic USA 😂

 

[keangkong]

Thanks for the reply and I

I’m happy to hear that 🙂
Sry told me today that the package was inspected by customs. Im not sure what that means in terms of arrival, I’m waiting for a reply, I’ll do more research in the mean time. Thanks

I'm assuming that means that it cleared customs. That means you're not waiting for it to pass customs. Then the item will either go directly to you or will go to someone else who will repackage it domestically.

 

[keangkong]

I wouldn't worry. Their last "domestic" promo doesn't seem domestic USA 😂

If you look at the SRY Discord, they posted a message about how SRY is (again) facing domestic warehouse problems. As a result, things are going far slower than anticipated.

 

[RideTheBike]

Yes Im aware I can move it to a different vial, or put it in a ketchup bottle, or inject it in a teddy bear. Thats not the point, its that it seems abnormal which you just confirmed. Its not standard to have to purchase additional vials and transfer out of the vials the compound comes in, which is not ideal for a number of reasons.

It’s not compound.

 

[ToroB]

I'll add, they are typically.a little more expensive but all of the peps they sell are reliably tested both second and eventually third party.

Hi there I’m new here and also looking for Reta sources. Been buying from Skye and about to go bankrupt lol. This TG link is no longer valid. Do you mind sharing it?

 

[keangkong]

If you look at the SRY Discord, they posted a message about how SRY is (again) facing domestic warehouse problems. As a result, things are going far slower than anticipated.

Sry did sent me a USPS tracking number. Right now, it just says label created. But that's progress.

 

[tiddiesandnunchuck]

Hi there I’m new here and also looking for Reta sources. Been buying from Skye and about to go bankrupt lol. This TG link is no longer valid. Do you mind sharing it?

check out Nexaph. His products are tested and gets tested again right after the release, meaning customers send 3 random bottles and test them again. It cost a bit more than buying kits from
CN dealers but certainly waaayy cheaper than buying individual vials from US resellers. Their warehouse (or house? lol) is in the midwest so shipping is about a week or less and don't have to go through customs.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

There's a few different things there, and I wasn't around for all of them. There's a bunch of threads on it if you take a look around, but they generally end up with a lot of bickering and interforum bullshit.

-misrepresented themselves as being a Chinese vendor (they say they make their own product, which I'm inclined to believe they do have a hand in the production, but others think they are a domestic reseller)
-shipped out reta that rapidly degraded. They replaced it for everyone that ordered, without requiring people to reach out to them individually, and people are currently waiting on the retest to see if the new product is better.
-some confusion on the filler used at one point, I don't really remember what came of that other than one product had something unexpected, and nexa panicked and assumed other products had it too. Turns out they didn't, but they'd already said the products did, which sowed further distrust among people who were already wary of them- why didn't they know what was used in the making of their own product etc.
-some people don't like the prices charged for the product, assuming it's actually from China, when you look at other group buys. But they're still significantly cheaper than any other domestic.

I'm sure there's other stuff but I don't want to stir up shit again and get called a shill because I like them. I figure everyone in the market is at least a little shady, and with Nexa I get it fast, I can use a credit card, I can personally ask questions of the owner, and it's being tested over and over, so if something goes wrong someone's going to shout it from the rooftops. Also, he wasn't hit by the latest zero pep thing, so he's probably at least getting from a different vendor than everyone else even if he is a reseller. All of the various Chinese companies are resellers too which was pretty much proven with the zero peps.

You missed a critical aspect of the story which is that baba/cain was a well-known, deeply embedded member of the peptide community who was simultaneously masquerading as a Chinese vendor using alts. This is against rules on a ton of platforms (eg testing platforms where he was profiting from community-paid testing) and represents a significant violation of trust and lack of ethical behavior. Not the kind of guy you want to put your trust in when choosing underground meds to inject.

 

[rschneida]

You missed a critical aspect of the story which is that baba/cain was a well-known, deeply embedded member of the peptide community who was simultaneously masquerading as a Chinese vendor using alts. This is against rules on a ton of platforms (eg testing platforms where he was profiting from community-paid testing) and represents a significant violation of trust and lack of ethical behavior. Not the kind of guy you want to put your trust in when choosing underground meds to inject.

Well that's interesting. How was that all figured out? How long ago? I don't have a dog in this hunt, just trying to learn and get to the truth as I navigate all this for myself.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Well that's interesting. How was that all figured out? How long ago? I don't have a dog in this hunt, just trying to learn and get to the truth as I navigate all this for myself.

His dumb ass didn’t know how to use a VPN so was caught logging in from multiple accounts from the same place. Tried to blame it on his roommate but eventually came around and admitted it. It all happened like 6 months ago.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Well that's interesting. How was that all figured out? How long ago? I don't have a dog in this hunt, just trying to learn and get to the truth as I navigate all this for myself.

You can see much of how it unfolded here:
Thread 'SPC Nexaph.com Current Promotion for Telegram Users'
https://glp1forum.com/threads/spc-nexaph-com-current-promotion-for-telegram-users.1018/

A lot of the “unmasking” also happened on a discord so that isn’t available

 

[rschneida]

His dumb ass didn’t know how to use a VPN so was caught logging in from multiple accounts from the same place. Tried to blame it on his roommate but eventually came around and admitted it. It all happened like 6 months ago.

Ha. That'll get you every time if you're trying to play games. Seems he's got a happy customer base at this point and is treating customers fairly. Think he learned his lesson and is trying to play straight now?

 

[chmuse]

You missed a critical aspect of the story which is that baba/cain was a well-known, deeply embedded member of the peptide community who was simultaneously masquerading as a Chinese vendor using alts. This is against rules on a ton of platforms (eg testing platforms where he was profiting from community-paid testing) and represents a significant violation of trust and lack of ethical behavior. Not the kind of guy you want to put your trust in when choosing underground meds to inject.

And that's why people who've been around longer are so important, I only joined in October so my memory and information base isn't as big as yours.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Ha. That'll get you every time if you're trying to play games. Seems he's got a happy customer base at this point and is treating customers fairly. Think he learned his lesson and is trying to play straight now?

He's proven to be very good at viral marketing. He does giveaways and such which are marketing activities, but framed as "giving back to the community," causing entire forums to simp for him even when there is a stream of hiccups such as a series of bad batches and shifting to a group buy model (as evidenced by the whole "pick the cap color!" thing on the "pre-buy" he posted here yesterday). On certain forums you'll find people praising and thanking him for selling them their peptides, seemingly forgetting he's in this for profit. Just wait, they'll come out of the woodwork here shortly and say that people just have an "axe to grind," ignoring any of the substance of what was said above. The whole thing is distasteful at best.

 

[clevesand]

He's proven to be very good at viral marketing. He does giveaways and such which are marketing activities, but framed as "giving back to the community," causing entire forums to simp for him even when there is a stream of hiccups such as a series of bad batches and shifting to a group buy model (as evidenced by the whole "pick the cap color!" thing on the "pre-buy" he posted here yesterday). On certain forums you'll find people praising and thanking him for selling them their peptides, seemingly forgetting he's in this for profit. Just wait, they'll come out of the woodwork here shortly and say that people just have an "axe to grind," ignoring any of the substance of what was said above. The whole thing is distasteful at best.

Tirzreddit people will put up with anything to use their credit card.

 

[rschneida]

He's proven to be very good at viral marketing. He does giveaways and such which are marketing activities, but framed as "giving back to the community," causing entire forums to simp for him even when there is a stream of hiccups such as a series of bad batches and shifting to a group buy model (as evidenced by the whole "pick the cap color!" thing on the "pre-buy" he posted here yesterday). On certain forums you'll find people praising and thanking him for selling them their peptides, seemingly forgetting he's in this for profit. Just wait, they'll come out of the woodwork here shortly and say that people just have an "axe to grind," ignoring any of the substance of what was said above. The whole thing is distasteful at best.

Well, from a pure and unemotional business perspective, he has found a hole in the market. He's more expensive than sourcing direct from China, easier for most to deal with regarding long lead times, communication, etc., and he's far less expensive than most if not all the US resellers. I'm right there with you about it being distasteful, and I wouldn't do that. But, I am a hardcore student of business as well and have seen firsthand this and other distasteful stuff happen in very profitable businesses. To varying degrees, I think owning and running a business extracts that from a person. In what I do, I see it everyday. It's a very "grey" area.....pun intended.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Well, from a pure and unemotional business perspective, he has found a hole in the market. He's more expensive than sourcing direct from China, easier for most to deal with regarding long lead times, communication, etc., and he's far less expensive than most if not all the US resellers. I'm right there with you about it being distasteful, and I wouldn't do that. But, I am a hardcore student of business as well and have seen firsthand this and other distasteful stuff happen in very profitable businesses. To varying degrees, I think owning and running a business extracts that from a person. In what I do, I see it everyday. It's a very "grey" area.....pun intended.

Yep, I won't dispute that the guy is making money. It's unfortunate that he is doing it in such a manipulative manner. Tricking people into thinking you're doing them a favor to extract money from them really rubs me the wrong way, but indeed it's effective. I'm not critiquing his business sense, as his bank account is not something I'm particularly concerned about.

 

[rschneida]

Yep, I won't dispute that the guy is making money. It's unfortunate that he is doing it in such a manipulative manner. Tricking people into thinking you're doing them a favor to extract money from them really rubs me the wrong way, but indeed it's effective. I'm not critiquing his business sense, as his bank account is not something I'm particularly concerned about.

Fair point and appreciate the honesty in which you are moderating this....and the backstory. Places like this need to adhere to principles or else they are no good to anyone. Thank you.

 

[Super Trips]

Yep, I won't dispute that the guy is making money. It's unfortunate that he is doing it in such a manipulative manner. Tricking people into thinking you're doing them a favor to extract money from them really rubs me the wrong way, but indeed it's effective. I'm not critiquing his business sense, as his bank account is not something I'm particularly concerned about.

since you are telling people that cain is not trustworthy how about adding QSC or ASC how they are some of the most trusted people on here that just outright scammed people out of alot of product.
Cain may not be upfront with you but as someone thats been in the game a long time i would never tell people my info or source of product. Nexaph product works just like every other china vendor on here. As for principles people this is the same as buying on the darkweb you need to do research and expect to be scammed a few times its the price of going grey! The majority of the china factories are gross and not clean whatsoever ive been ordering RCs from china for over 20 years now and its always the same a vendor will pump then dump or shoot out after something happens over in china they get arrested or gangs take over they have a hundred reasons why stuff goes wrong over there.
If you are new to this game buy a little to try it out if you like it put them on your list and be aware that being scammed or getting bunk product can happen with ANY vendor that sells Grey market
The fact that Nexpha takes CC is just one layer of protection that most others dont allow.
Remember is just a Journey so enjoy the Trip!

 

[rschneida]

since you are telling people that cain is not trustworthy how about adding QSC or ASC how they are some of the most trusted people on here that just outright scammed people out of alot of product.
Cain may not be upfront with you but as someone thats been in the game a long time i would never tell people my info or source of product. Nexaph product works just like every other china vendor on here. As for principles people this is the same as buying on the darkweb you need to do research and expect to be scammed a few times its the price of going grey! The majority of the china factories are gross and not clean whatsoever ive been ordering RCs from china for over 20 years now and its always the same a vendor will pump then dump or shoot out after something happens over in china they get arrested or gangs take over they have a hundred reasons why stuff goes wrong over there.
If you are new to this game buy a little to try it out if you like it put them on your list and be aware that being scammed or getting bunk product can happen with ANY vendor that sells Grey market
The fact that Nexpha takes CC is just one layer of protection that most others dont allow.
Remember is just a Journey so enjoy the Trip!

I'm new to this site but thought I did see some info about QSC and ASC? Not defending in any way. It's tough to keep up with all this because it's spread out over time. Also, when buying direct from China, the more reputable ones use PayPal. That can be tied to a card, so there's protection. Yes, there's an additional transaction fee but I'm ok with that for the peace of mind.

 

[Super Trips]

I'm new to this site but thought I did see some info about QSC and ASC? Not defending in any way. It's tough to keep up with all this because it's spread out over time. Also, when buying direct from China, the more reputable ones use PayPal. That can be tied to a card, so there's protection. Yes, there's an additional transaction fee but I'm ok with that for the peace of mind.

its a cat and mouse game if you find good product buy it and save it while you can because the next day in this business is never a for sure thing. Ive had brokers that went years no problems then overnight nothing. I dont hold it personal its just business and i move on with my next broker.

 

[rschneida]

its a cat and mouse game if you find good product buy it and save it while you can because the next day in this business is never a for sure thing. Ive had brokers that went years no problems then overnight nothing. I dont hold it personal its just business and i move on with my next broker.

100%. I am a little indifferent about all this from the standpoint that I buy "legit" stuff from China regularly for my business. So, I'm used to communicating with them, how they operate, etc. I don't wait for something to happen. If I smell something funny, I find another source.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

since you are telling people that cain is not trustworthy how about adding QSC or ASC how they are some of the most trusted people on here that just outright scammed people out of alot of product.

The evidence doesn't point to QSC having scammed anyone; they appear to have been busted. If you’re as old school as you say you are then you ought to understand and appreciate the distinction. If Nexa gets busted and Baba is sitting in jail, you shouldn't expect to receive outstanding orders either. That's a risk you take with every single vendor.

As for ASC, I haven’t been following, but if they're scamming people, great—go discuss it in a relevant thread instead of throwing out red herrings to divert the conversation here.

 

[PopTart]

You missed a critical aspect of the story which is that baba/cain was a well-known, deeply embedded member of the peptide community who was simultaneously masquerading as a Chinese vendor using alts.

And he stated in a vendor post on another platform that Nexaph:
1. is a “finisher”, not strictly a retailer, and only sells peps that they finish.
2. owns the facility where the peps are finished.
3. has the capability to synthesize some of the peps they finish.
4. guarantees min 99% purity (that was short lived).
5. has a main business that operates through a pharmaceutical license but the peptide business operates on the side.
6. labels kits with a QR code linked to Jano test report (“test report forthcoming” - also short lived).

Oh, and he was playing pharmacy by filling pens with tirz and labeling them as brand product.

Masquerading is an understatement. Facility ownership, finisher, pharma licensed business is a deceptive lie and filling pens for sale is just dangerous.

And we would’ve never known this if it wasn’t for Dickie Peterson.

 

[rschneida]

And he stated in a vendor post on another platform that Nexaph:
1. is a “finisher”, not strictly a retailer, and only sells peps that they finish.
2. owns the facility where the peps are finished.
3. has the capability to synthesize some of the peps they finish.
4. guarantees min 99% purity (that was short lived).
5. has a main business that operates through a pharmaceutical license but the peptide business operates on the side.
6. labels kits with a QR code linked to Jano test report (“test report forthcoming” - also short lived).

Oh, and he was playing pharmacy by filling pens with tirz and labeling them as brand product.

Masquerading is an understatement. Facility ownership, finisher, pharma licensed business is a deceptive lie and filling pens for sale is just dangerous.

And we would’ve never known this if it wasn’t for Dickie Peterson.

Well damn. That is quite the smoking gun. Much different than just using Chinese name. How long ago was that? Is that post still up?

 

[PopTart]

Well damn. That is quite the smoking gun. Much different than just using Chinese name. How long ago was that? Is that post still up?

Post is still up on Peppy’s under “Vendor Posts”

 

[rschneida]

Post is still up on Peppy’s under “Vendor Posts”

I've heard of that but not on that forum. Where is that?

 

[mopo89]

since you are telling people that cain is not trustworthy how about adding QSC or ASC how they are some of the most trusted people on here that just outright scammed people out of alot of product.
Cain may not be upfront with you but as someone thats been in the game a long time i would never tell people my info or source of product. Nexaph product works just like every other china vendor on here. As for principles people this is the same as buying on the darkweb you need to do research and expect to be scammed a few times its the price of going grey! The majority of the china factories are gross and not clean whatsoever ive been ordering RCs from china for over 20 years now and its always the same a vendor will pump then dump or shoot out after something happens over in china they get arrested or gangs take over they have a hundred reasons why stuff goes wrong over there.
If you are new to this game buy a little to try it out if you like it put them on your list and be aware that being scammed or getting bunk product can happen with ANY vendor that sells Grey market
The fact that Nexpha takes CC is just one layer of protection that most others dont allow.
Remember is just a Journey so enjoy the Trip!

this feels like whataboutism. just because someone mentions they think one vendor is untrustworthy doesn't mean they automatically have to mention every other vendor they've deemed untrustworthy. multiple vendors can be untrustworthy at the same time, and they're discussed in the relevant threads about them.

 

[Super Trips]

The evidence doesn't point to QSC having scammed anyone; they appear to have been busted. If you’re as old school as you say you are then you ought to understand and appreciate the distinction. If Nexa gets busted and Baba is sitting in jail, you shouldn't expect to receive outstanding orders either. That's a risk you take with every single vendor.

As for ASC, I haven’t been following, but if they're scamming people, great—go discuss it in a relevant thread instead of throwing out red herrings to divert the conversation here.

I've heard of that but not on that forum. Where is that?

This forum is bias against cain so you wont find many people trying to stand up for him or have ordered and tested his product personally. But a few of us have bought from him no problems

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Just wait, they'll come out of the woodwork here shortly and say that people just have an "axe to grind," ignoring any of the substance of what was said above.

This forum is bias against cain

…. Did I call that one or what? Not engaging on the substance, just saying it’s bias that came to exist for no apparent reason.