Thanks I'm reconsidering everything now
Will anything ever bring the early magic back?
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I have been on 15 mg. tirz since Christmas (literally) and down only 0.5# in that time. Not feeling the magic anymore BUT I am sticking with it because there are still some positive benefits I am getting like inflammation reduction and alcohol suppression.
Even though I am not getting good appetite suppression it is still helping me eat healthy and moderately, I don't crave sweets or eat fast food. I have double downed on calorie counting, reassessed my TDEE and just working harder to stay in a calorie deficit, which I am relatively successful at using tirz. So trying to appreciate some of the positive benefits I am still getting and staying the course. Its just going to take me a lot longer to lose the weight, but maybe that is a good thing?
Even though I am not getting good appetite suppression it is still helping me eat healthy and moderately, I don't crave sweets or eat fast food. I have double downed on calorie counting, reassessed my TDEE and just working harder to stay in a calorie deficit, which I am relatively successful at using tirz. So trying to appreciate some of the positive benefits I am still getting and staying the course. Its just going to take me a lot longer to lose the weight, but maybe that is a good thing?
It seems like there is a vocal minority complaining that there's something wrong (or they got zero) with their grey peps because they're not getting the feels like they used to without any test data to back it up. I think a lot of folks want the early magic back and might have expected it to last forever... it is indeed a bummer!
hotdog!
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I agree that the magic feels disappearing or being blunted is a big disappointment. I miss it myself.
That was a fun rabbit hole, thanks for the lead. As a one datum experience, my spouse is mildly bi-polar and has been much steadier since being started on sema. I never made the connection, but your comment def got me thinking.
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chmuse
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Very exciting stuff. Keto has also been linked to helping bipolar, which makes sense when you consider a lot of the first line bipolar treatments are actually epilepsy medications- and keto is a diet specifically prescribed to control epilepsy! Keto can also be used to help with diabetes and blood sugar control. It's so cool how all these weird things are linked!
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You've gotten closer to your goal weight. What happened is normal. I used to get taller. It doesn't happen anymore.
brittmiche
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Jesus fucking Christ. Yall act like it's not important to fucking eat good healthy foods while taking this shit. Cool, have a saggy ass, thighs, arms, etc. Especially if you were "obese" upon starting. Op literally said in a round about way, they do not want to be hungry or think about food for 12hrs plus other factors I will not list, bc quite frankly the attitude here is rediculous-you are more than welcome to go back and read. Thus should be a place where we can share experiences and earn/teach others about the possible/likely outcomes of certain routines and habits with their meds.
hotdog!
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Well telling someone they will "thoroughly regret it" is a really presumptuous thing to say. Especially given we're all taking "research" grey market drugs that come with a lot of risks. The attitude you're reading is calling out your judgmental comments masquerading as helpful advice. So Jesus Fucking Christ yourself.
I think the issue is that you're making a lot of assumptions about what I'm doing without really knowing.
Humans probably did not eat 3 square meals a day for most of history. Hunter/gatherers probably had long fasts interrupted by the occasional feast. Not eating or needing to eat for 12 hours is perfectly fine, it's not like I do it every day. And I probably never really did it much. But what was nice in the beginning was not to be driven around hour by hour by the perceived need for food. Not necessarily fasting for 12 hours, but feeling like you can live the rest of your life without thinking about eating all day long.
Trust me I still get plenty of calories. But thanks for your concern
when did he say he didn't want to eat healthy foods? also, eating healthy will not prevent things like a saggy ass. those things come with significant weight loss. working out is really the only way to combat those things.
brittmiche
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Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. I think most would say "take a break" to get those beginning effects back. But what do I know? 👀👀🤦And who's really going to do that anyway? I'll wait...
Windingroads06
Less is More
I did take a 3 month break. I did gain back 10#. However, I was plagued by food noise 24/7. I understand the desire to not think about eating all the time. Thoughts about food before Oz were repetitive and intrusive. After Oz and after Mj, the food noise is at a level where I can eat and not over eat, consider what I will have on my weekly menu with out eating all of it on Monday.
