ZZB said it to me. Janoshik doesn't censor
Zhejiang Zhaobo Technology Co. Ltd
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Vacation4us
GLP-1 Member
That’s what I thought but didn’t want to assume. Did you purchase any product from them? I feel very lucky that I dodged that bullet.
Lucasvinia
GLP-1 Novice
Unfortunately, they do not accept reports from laboratories other than the ones they recommend. In the email received, the following information was provided:
No because they sent me COA without verification
ZZB is one of the companies I am looking to get Tirz from as they seem popular on discord among the group buys. I’m confused as how they are polypeptides. That seems like a different company I’ve seen selling on Facebook. Who was your contact? I have Hellen saved as the contact. Did the Alibaba payment supplier show ZZB or polypeptide?
Also covered COA does not mean it’s a fake COA, I have contacted a lot of high rated vendors in the past week and many have sent COAs that the tester name was blocked as they claim their customer did the test and can’t reveal it. These are vendors that private 3rd party tests have been done on and they check out.
Also it’s been said they supply another popular GB vendor Ronsen.
Did you receive your order at all? If you can show what the kits look like. Also testing is the only way to be sure of what you have. $300 seems like a lot but due to the savings I’m getting for ordering from China instead of USA sellers, I will test any vendor i end up going with even if they have real Janoshik test. I’m considering SRY Tirz 30mg for $230 shipped with Janoshik
Lucasvinia
GLP-1 Novice
I haven’t received my order yet, but it seems like I’ll have to accept the product as it is. Here in Brazil, I haven't found any labs that can do this specific analysis. Sending it to a lab abroad for testing would end up costing more than just buying from a safer and more reliable vendor.
I will be sending sample to Janoshik(Czech) from USA. Cost for test will be $300 and ups shipping will be $65. It’s still a huge saving for me compared to compounded and USA peptide sellers. The only reason I’m considering ZZB is because they have so many products I want to order that others don’t have like GLOW, Bioregulators, Amino blends. I missed some GBs that was done through them and was looking to get direct.
This is what their product looks like from the GBs, if your kits look like this, you should be ok somewhat as they tested really good.
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Vacation4us
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It was not just a covered COA. No barcode and no identifier. You do you but after my experience they are a no go for me. There are way to many vendors to choose a known liar.
Do you have any other vendor that offers bioregulators like vesugen and glow? The point of the covered COA was to not have the identifier/ barcode to show their “customer “ name lol. Considering that many order from Alibaba and Facebook without any COA and products test good, I’m not writing them off because of that.
they have the products I need, low price, and have been 3rd party tested by several group buys which hold a lot of weight to me than if they even provided real COA. I’m way deep into this vendors research rabbit hole. Wheww.
Vacation4us
GLP-1 Member
I don’t but you’re in the right place to search for an alternative source. I just started researching GHK-cu ( part of glow) but at the moment I’m more interested in using it on my skin. A daily injection is just too much for me, I can hardly tolerate taking my statin daily, but I do manage my skin routine 95% of the time.
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
If you haven't found other vendors then you haven't done your research. They exist, you just need to search the forum.
If they are as popular as you claim then there is no reason to cover the identifier. Janoshik will create duplicate reports with different businesses names for a nominal fee. Any seller too cheap to pay the $30 USD he charges for that is probably too cheap to supply their customers with safe products.
I am not claiming anything. Just showing that popular group buys have used them with verifiable great Janoshik reports. Actually just saw another report of theirs on discord and Tirz 30 tested at 35mg. Definitely a contender for me, along with SRY and ZYH that all the GBs are using. From my research polypeptides is a reseller and different from ZZB.
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
When you say verifiable do you mean unredacted?
Yes they are big on discord. Many tests done.
Edit- They just responded to me (Fiona) and said they don’t accept Alibaba and never had. Only crypto, wise, bank transfer. Hmmmn. Out my list for sure.
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Broken Chef
GLP-1 Specialist
WOW, that's the worst fake I've seen so far... You wouldn't need to look at many other tests to realize how terrible that is. Hell, one legit test will tell you that task number isn't right, the ordered date vs the test date are too close, no client name, and it appears the verification is cut off - but maybe that was just the screenshot.
It takes all of 3 minutes to verify these on Jano, but I suppose if you don't know better...
Broken Chef
GLP-1 Specialist
Reason # 369 not to use Alibaba
Well, this thread has definitely been enlightening, especially since I just placed an order with them via WhatsApp. I can’t understand why anyone would think it’s a good idea to share a fake COA—talk about an instant way to screw your reputation.
I found PolyPeptide/Zhaobo Biotechnology (PPZB) through the same person others have referenced here (MN on Reddit). After finding this thread this morning, I reached out to him with my concerns, and he replied pretty quickly. I don’t get the impression that he’s shady; in general, his copy/paste message cited multiple sources (kits4less, QSC, PPZB) and provided a lot of helpful details for people new to peptides. I can understand why he wouldn't want to retype all of that information every time someone sent him a message.
Before I placed my order, PPZB sent me a COA from peptidetest.com dated August 2024. I believe it to be legitimate; I emailed info@peptidetest and they directed me to their verification tool to confirm its authenticity: https://coa.trustpointeanalytics.com, using the verification key. It passed, so that's a positive.
Ultimately, this doesn’t excuse the shady actions of this supplier in providing fake COAs in the past, that is an incredibly shady thing to do. However, it does offer some reassurance that their product is legitimate. Anyhow, if you do proceed with an order, do so with caution. Results attached.
I found PolyPeptide/Zhaobo Biotechnology (PPZB) through the same person others have referenced here (MN on Reddit). After finding this thread this morning, I reached out to him with my concerns, and he replied pretty quickly. I don’t get the impression that he’s shady; in general, his copy/paste message cited multiple sources (kits4less, QSC, PPZB) and provided a lot of helpful details for people new to peptides. I can understand why he wouldn't want to retype all of that information every time someone sent him a message.
Before I placed my order, PPZB sent me a COA from peptidetest.com dated August 2024. I believe it to be legitimate; I emailed info@peptidetest and they directed me to their verification tool to confirm its authenticity: https://coa.trustpointeanalytics.com, using the verification key. It passed, so that's a positive.
Ultimately, this doesn’t excuse the shady actions of this supplier in providing fake COAs in the past, that is an incredibly shady thing to do. However, it does offer some reassurance that their product is legitimate. Anyhow, if you do proceed with an order, do so with caution. Results attached.
Broken Chef
GLP-1 Specialist
ALL the gb's are most definitely NOT using SRY, ZYH or ZZB!
I'm in 14 gb servers, not a one of them uses any of those vendors. Some have the aminos and other peptides you asked about. There are much better options and TONS of vendors and GB's to choose from who provide verifiable tests.
Any decent GB includes testing vials of the product received. What GB server doesn't do any independent testing? Even the recent vendor led gb/promos are testing at least a 1 vial for each batch and providing verifiable test results to all buyers. The better ones test 3 vials, randomly selected from and sent in by the buyers from the kits received.
If they are too cheap to do their own tests when they are bringing in $100k/month +, and rely on customers to supply tests that can't be verified, then what does that tell you about the company? There are literally thousands of tests shared on another platform and in discord testing servers. People run tests on their own and share them every day. And for $30, they can get the name changed on the report so that it can be verified. This makes ZERO sense and screams SCAM! Right off the bat, the very first thing I saw was the task #... Jano is way beyond task #47 or whatever it said. That is the worst attempt to fake a test I've seen yet.
These are just excuses and lies they use to screw people. They are preying on people who don't know better and I highly recommend you spend some time reading in here and find other avenues. If they are willing to fake test results, it's probably because they know their product won't live up to expectations.
On the note of COAs, make sure you are actually getting them from the vendor in question.
There is a lot of funny business going on in this market, and I would think the easiest way to ruin a vendors reputation would be to make some fake COAs and spread them out through fake profiles. There isn’t anything stopping someone from sending in bunk product and testing it as if it was from vendor X either 🤷♂️ (I don’t know if Jano allows duplicate client names? @janoshik)
(Not saying that’s happening, just struck me as I was reading).
You are probably best off finding a vendor that has consistently tested well over time by 3rd parties like group buys and people testing their product - in addition to the vendors own tests.
If you ask me, it should be a standard for vendors to add their email to the test as the client name and be able to email you from it to prove the test was actually done by the vendor you are talking to.
At the end of the day, I believe the safest bet is to find a couple vendors you like and stick to them - not saying you should marry a vendor. But I can’t see any reason to switch it up if you are receiving good products and service.
The tests doesn’t really do much good unless you trust the vendor to do their business properly.
There is a lot of funny business going on in this market, and I would think the easiest way to ruin a vendors reputation would be to make some fake COAs and spread them out through fake profiles. There isn’t anything stopping someone from sending in bunk product and testing it as if it was from vendor X either 🤷♂️ (I don’t know if Jano allows duplicate client names? @janoshik)
(Not saying that’s happening, just struck me as I was reading).
You are probably best off finding a vendor that has consistently tested well over time by 3rd parties like group buys and people testing their product - in addition to the vendors own tests.
If you ask me, it should be a standard for vendors to add their email to the test as the client name and be able to email you from it to prove the test was actually done by the vendor you are talking to.
At the end of the day, I believe the safest bet is to find a couple vendors you like and stick to them - not saying you should marry a vendor. But I can’t see any reason to switch it up if you are receiving good products and service.
The tests doesn’t really do much good unless you trust the vendor to do their business properly.
Were you able to pay by Alibaba? Did it show polypeptides or ZZB? They are telling me they don’t accept Alibaba. I just found another of their tests on FB and I’m blown away now. The overfilling is crazy and good purity. That guy on Reddit seems to be like shill for them because a lot of people mentioned it now. But if products are testing this good and I can pay by Alibaba, I might go with them.
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Vacation4us
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Well I reached out to MN69 on September 26 th asking for his personal COAs that he swears that he had done, and why I didn’t need to test. CRICKETS
Nada, zip, nothing. Mr prior chatty Cathy is ghost. I did not accuse him, I asked for him to verify his claims, nicely.
I gave him the benefit of a doubt at first, now I am pretty sure he is a scammer. I do know he responded to someone else and is all 😱
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
I'm not judging because I've taken my own risks in this space but...
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Maybe you can suggest better vendors. You are not helping, I’m doing my own research and trying to vet a vendor, A lot of GBs do use these 3 vendors except the ones that hide their vendors like JLu, Also Ronsen is same factory as ZZB but way too expensive for me. They do test ZZB in these GBs so not sure what you are talking about. Tell us the vendors the GBs you are in are using to help others which is why we are here.
It’s a good idea if your plan is to pump some sales, make a quick buck and then leave that user/company dead and create a new one.
The majority of the vendors you find are not labs, at least not their real name and location. There are laws and rules in China too 🙃
The majority of the vendors you find are not labs, at least not their real name and location. There are laws and rules in China too 🙃
Vacation4us
GLP-1 Member
This isn’t a spoon feeding forum. It’s a great forum for you to research and come to your own conclusions.
It’s not that people don’t want to help. But you need to understand that there are no definite guarantees. It’s a risk you take after making your own choice.
No one wants to be held responsible for your bad experience.
And let’s be honest, you don’t really want your favorite vendor to be overrun by orders and get problems with sourcing, potentially having them make bad choices and skipping QA to deliver 🤷♂️
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
If you look at the "trending content" and "latest posts" section of this website there are three posts discussing different vendors. It's not even that hard.
No, I used BTC. He doesn't strike me as a shill, as it wouldn't make a ton of sense to share positive experiences with other suppliers if you only cared about funneling to one source. Then again, who knows. For all I know he could be a chinese AI lol
This market is big enough for a couple vendors, I don’t have any problem defending or speaking highly of other vendors.
When it comes to social media platforms though, there is no limit to how many profiles you can create. There’s an unlimited amount of “vendors” there, and there is definitely a possibility that 5 vendors is actually one 🙃
