Zhejiang Zhaobo Technology Co. Ltd

[Graylife]

It’s not that people don’t want to help. But you need to understand that there are no definite guarantees. It’s a risk you take after making your own choice.

No one wants to be held responsible for your bad experience.

And let’s be honest, you don’t really want your favorite vendor to be overrun by orders and get problems with sourcing, potentially having them make bad choices and skipping QA to deliver 🤷‍♂️

People have recommended vendors freely here like Amopure, QSC , Nexaph that I don’t want to deal with, due to their own issues. I don’t want peptides that sting or bad customer service. As we can see, no vendor is perfect around here. They are drug pushers at the end of the end and can’t be really trusted.

What it boils down to is product testing good, vendors that do not mix up their peptides or tablets as I’ve seen occurred twice lately from highly rated vendors.
It’s a toss between SRY and ZBB for me right now as both have tested good. Zbb has higher fill and purity of their peptides and srys price can’t be beat.

 

[Bacchus]

People have recommended vendors freely here like Amopure, QSC , Nexaph that I don’t want to deal with, due to their own issues. I don’t want peptides that sting or bad customer service. As we can see, no vendor is perfect around here. They are drug pushers at the end of the end and can’t be really trusted.

What it boils down to is product testing good, vendors that do not mix up their peptides or tablets as I’ve seen occurred twice lately from highly rated vendors.
It’s a toss between SRY and ZBB for me right now as both have tested good. Zbb has higher fill and purity of their peptides and srys price can’t be beat.

I don’t really follow the Chinese vendors very closely. But my impression would be that SRY is the better choice purely from what I can remember when browsing the forum.

But that could be simply because I see them more often. I can’t really tell if that’s positive or negative.

I do however believe both do their best to deliver proper products, and there will always be someone that’s unhappy for various reasons.

My advice would be to flip a coin 😂 Or try to DM some of the older members that you recognize and deem trustable. It’s definitely easier to say “I would pick x or y” as opposed to answering an open ended question.

 

[Graylife]

I don’t really follow the Chinese vendors very closely. But my impression would be that SRY is the better choice purely from what I can remember when browsing the forum.

But that could be simply because I see them more often. I can’t really tell if that’s positive or negative.

I do however believe both do their best to deliver proper products, and there will always be someone that’s unhappy for various reasons.

My advice would be to flip a coin 😂 Or try to DM some of the older members that you recognize and deem trustable. It’s definitely easier to say “I would pick x or y” as opposed to answering an open ended question.

Wheww someone helpful at least! Thank you. SRY is great from my research except an issue with their ex employee Yura(HYB) that went rogue and caused a ruckus among group buys by sending inferior products. Too bad they don’t offer variety of products like ZZB/ Ronsen.

 

[Bacchus]

Wheww someone helpful at least! Thank you. SRY is great from my research except an issue with their ex employee Yura(HYB) that went rogue and caused a ruckus among group buys by sending inferior products. Too bad they don’t offer variety of products like ZZB/ Ronsen.

If that’s your conclusion, why not order what sry has from them. Then do a 2nd order for the stuff they don’t have?

Then you spread your risk too 🙂

 

[noteablequotable]

People have recommended vendors freely here like Amopure, QSC , Nexaph that I don’t want to deal with, due to their own issues. I don’t want peptides that sting or bad customer service. As we can see, no vendor is perfect around here. They are drug pushers at the end of the end and can’t be really trusted.

What it boils down to is product testing good, vendors that do not mix up their peptides or tablets as I’ve seen occurred twice lately from highly rated vendors.
It’s a toss between SRY and ZBB for me right now as both have tested good. Zbb has higher fill and purity of their peptides and srys price can’t be beat.

I'll be praying for your health and safety. Good luck.

 

[Graylife]

I'll be praying for your health and safety. Good luck.

Praying for yours too love. I am sending my kits out to Janoshik from whoever I buy from. Are you? I will gladly share my results here to help others make informed decisions instead of unhelpful chatter.

 

[Broken Chef]

Well, this thread has definitely been enlightening, especially since I just placed an order with them via WhatsApp. I can’t understand why anyone would think it’s a good idea to share a fake COA—talk about an instant way to screw your reputation.

I found PolyPeptide/Zhaobo Biotechnology (PPZB) through the same person others have referenced here (MN on Reddit). After finding this thread this morning, I reached out to him with my concerns, and he replied pretty quickly. I don’t get the impression that he’s shady; in general, his copy/paste message cited multiple sources (kits4less, QSC, PPZB) and provided a lot of helpful details for people new to peptides. I can understand why he wouldn't want to retype all of that information every time someone sent him a message.

Before I placed my order, PPZB sent me a COA from peptidetest.com dated August 2024. I believe it to be legitimate; I emailed info@peptidetest and they directed me to their verification tool to confirm its authenticity: https://coa.trustpointeanalytics.com, using the verification key. It passed, so that's a positive.

Ultimately, this doesn’t excuse the shady actions of this supplier in providing fake COAs in the past, that is an incredibly shady thing to do. However, it does offer some reassurance that their product is legitimate. Anyhow, if you do proceed with an order, do so with caution. Results attached.

Are the prices half of what others are charging? Even if they are, I don't see the draw. Why would they be citing other vendors? With the dozens of other options, why on earth would anyone use a company who has supplied what's clearly a fake test report? It's less than 2 months old - that's pretty current and not exactly "history".

What's stopping them saying this is what they are selling you, but then supplying product from 10 other batches?

You should not rely on any tests a vendor shows you. This is why group buys randomly select vials from the product received and have them tested... then you know that the test represents the product received. This is why testing servers exist - so that people can group up and test the product received to see if it matches what the vendor said it was. This is why people share the tests they did themselves with the community.

Maybe you can suggest better vendors. You are not helping, I’m doing my own research and trying to vet a vendor, A lot of GBs do use these 3 vendors except the ones that hide their vendors like JLu, Also Ronsen is same factory as ZZB but way too expensive for me. They do test ZZB in these GBs so not sure what you are talking about. Tell us the vendors the GBs you are in are using to help others which is why we are here.

What I'm talking about is that you seem to be defending a vendor who is supplying fake test. But there is some confusion about if they use Alibaba, so perhaps it's just a scammer, claiming to be ZZB. Why anyone would rely on FB or Reddit for sources is beyond me. Both are scammer central. Everyone has a different risk tolerance, mione is pretty strict and while I made some risky buys, I will now only use the better gb servers who provide the quality assurance I'm after.

I honestly don't pay much attention to vendor names in terms of tracking their reputation, but when I see that they are handing out fake tests, then I write it down to make sure I avoid them. That's just sketchy AF. I avoid SRY and left a couple groups who use them. Not because there is anything wrong with their product, but because one of their reps is a raging "Tuesday" and I refuse to give them my money. I'd never even heard of ZZB until this thread came out, so I know the groups I'm in don't use them, or at least for the things I've looked at buying. Yes, a couple groups don't say which vendor they use and for all we know they could be using ZZB, but it's unlikely. I rely on the test results for the kits that were purchased and the history of the groups, including the lengthy history of tests. If you are in the group you mentioned, and perhaps another with a similar name, you have access to aminos. That's as much as I'm willing to say about group names. The one group I'm in who uses Ronsen has outrageous prices on almost everything. While I'm in 14 gb servers, I only use 2-3 of them. The others are for backup and in case I should decide to persue other peptides int he future.

I dont see any reason to be tracking down vendors unless you are buying for a group... maybe you are. But to use a vendor solely because they sell the things you want, is probably not the best way to go about it.

 

[nonyabizznez]

I'd recommend doing a search on the word "clown" here and various male body parts. See what you learn about a vendor in the results... Just being helpful 😊

 

[scarywood75]

Well I reached out to MN69 on September 26 th asking for his personal COAs that he swears that he had done, and why I didn’t need to test. CRICKETS
Nada, zip, nothing. Mr prior chatty Cathy is ghost. I did not accuse him, I asked for him to verify his claims, nicely.
I gave him the benefit of a doubt at first, now I am pretty sure he is a scammer. I do know he responded to someone else and is all 😱

Same, he ghosted me when I asked to show me his COAs

 

[scarywood75]

Are the prices half of what others are charging? Even if they are, I don't see the draw. Why would they be citing other vendors? With the dozens of other options, why on earth would anyone use a company who has supplied what's clearly a fake test report? It's less than 2 months old - that's pretty current and not exactly "history".

What's stopping them saying this is what they are selling you, but then supplying product from 10 other batches?

You should not rely on any tests a vendor shows you. This is why group buys randomly select vials from the product received and have them tested... then you know that the test represents the product received. This is why testing servers exist - so that people can group up and test the product received to see if it matches what the vendor said it was. This is why people share the tests they did themselves with the community.




What I'm talking about is that you seem to be defending a vendor who is supplying fake test. But there is some confusion about if they use Alibaba, so perhaps it's just a scammer, claiming to be ZZB. Why anyone would rely on FB or Reddit for sources is beyond me. Both are scammer central. Everyone has a different risk tolerance, mione is pretty strict and while I made some risky buys, I will now only use the better gb servers who provide the quality assurance I'm after.

I honestly don't pay much attention to vendor names in terms of tracking their reputation, but when I see that they are handing out fake tests, then I write it down to make sure I avoid them. That's just sketchy AF. I avoid SRY and left a couple groups who use them. Not because there is anything wrong with their product, but because one of their reps is a raging "Tuesday" and I refuse to give them my money. I'd never even heard of ZZB until this thread came out, so I know the groups I'm in don't use them, or at least for the things I've looked at buying. Yes, a couple groups don't say which vendor they use and for all we know they could be using ZZB, but it's unlikely. I rely on the test results for the kits that were purchased and the history of the groups, including the lengthy history of tests. If you are in the group you mentioned, and perhaps another with a similar name, you have access to aminos. That's as much as I'm willing to say about group names. The one group I'm in who uses Ronsen has outrageous prices on almost everything. While I'm in 14 gb servers, I only use 2-3 of them. The others are for backup and in case I should decide to persue other peptides int he future.

I dont see any reason to be tracking down vendors unless you are buying for a group... maybe you are. But to use a vendor solely because they sell the things you want, is probably not the best way to go about it.

Aminos like in Aminos Research with the polemic they did by inventing a new peptide out of their ass? Yeah no thanks

 

[Broken Chef]

Aminos like in Aminos Research with the polemic they did by inventing a new peptide out of their ass? Yeah no thanks

Aminos as in the Amino Acids he was asking about and available through the gb he is in, therefore having "access to aminos". Aminos Research is commonly referred to as AR. I'd say more if it was permitted. But you do you!

 

[scarywood75]

Aminos as in the Amino Acids he was asking about and available through the gb he is in, therefore having "access to aminos". Aminos Research is commonly referred to as AR. I'd say more if it was permitted. But you do you!

Ah gotcha!

 

[dibsies]

FYI here's a newer COA from last month. It would be nice to hear what @Jessie121 has to say about previously shared questionable COAs.

 

[sethm09]

I finally got my results back from mz labs for zzt.
I didn't get scammed. Tested good. Paid with btc. But it was a very very long process. From the shipping to the testing. Delay after delay

 

[Graylife]

I finally got my results back from mz labs for zzt.
I didn't get scammed. Tested good. Paid with btc. But it was a very very long process. From the shipping to the testing. Delay after delay

Happy for you! Look at that purity 😳. Was this 20mg? Maybe they can remove them from scammer list at some point. Cos all the private tests have been very good.

 

[dibsies]

I finally got my results back from mz labs for zzt.
I didn't get scammed. Tested good. Paid with btc. But it was a very very long process. From the shipping to the testing. Delay after delay

This is reassuring. Thanks for sharing.

I agree that labeling them as "scammer" seems extreme, considering they appear to be providing quality products. It probably doesn't help their case that none of their representatives have chimed in on the whole fake COA scandal though.

My best suggestion for anyone considering this vendor would be to proceed with caution given the facts. Apparently some of their sales reps have been shady, but their product appears to consistently test great from the independent tests that have been shared here.

 

[sethm09]

This is reassuring. Thanks for sharing.

I agree that labeling them as "scammer" seems extreme, considering they appear to be providing quality products. It probably doesn't help their case that none of their representatives have chimed in on the whole fake COA scandal though.

My best suggestion for anyone considering this vendor would be to proceed with caution given the facts. Apparently some of their sales reps have been shady, but their product appears to consistently test great from the independent tests that have been shared here.

They didn't scam me but that doesn't mean they wont scam someone else. I think they are just to cheap to do real testing them selves to be honest. They don't fully understand how important we take the testing.
But for the price I would send samples of each batch to be tested.
I have done more research and amopure isn't that much more expensive and they have a lot better reputation so I think I'll just go with them from now on. Mainly due to all the delays I had with shipping with this vendor. Which most likely wasn't thier fault. It's just the whole thing felt off.
Maybe eventually they will build a better rep. If they keep selling product like I got they will get there eventually

 

[scarywood75]

Well looks like the guy on Reddit ha started its own reseller business, I've received this link this morning from him : https://musclenerds.shop/

I'm not planning to buy from him ofc given how he picks vendors and potentially lie about the tests he has made.

 

[noteablequotable]

Well looks like the guy on Reddit ha started its own reseller business, I've received this link this morning from him : https://musclenerds.shop/

I'm not planning to buy from him ofc given how he picks vendors and potentially lie about the tests he has made.

It's a gold rush, and everyone seems to want in.

I took a look and I am very skeptical of some of those prices. Anyone who decides to use them should exercise a great deal of caution.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

Aminos like in Aminos Research with the polemic they did by inventing a new peptide out of their ass? Yeah no thanks

have them send some to me. i'll try it.

 

[EvilMonkey]

I finally got my results back from mz labs for zzt.
I didn't get scammed. Tested good. Paid with btc. But it was a very very long process. From the shipping to the testing. Delay after delay

Thanks for sharing. I’ve opened a potential test on the PTDS testing server for anyone already there that is interested look for the ZZB R10 translucent green cap.

 

[EvilMonkey]

ALL the gb's are most definitely NOT using SRY, ZYH or ZZB!

I'm in 14 gb servers, not a one of them uses any of those vendors. Some have the aminos and other peptides you asked about. There are much better options and TONS of vendors and GB's to choose from who provide verifiable tests.

Any decent GB includes testing vials of the product received. What GB server doesn't do any independent testing? Even the recent vendor led gb/promos are testing at least a 1 vial for each batch and providing verifiable test results to all buyers. The better ones test 3 vials, randomly selected from and sent in by the buyers from the kits received.

If they are too cheap to do their own tests when they are bringing in $100k/month +, and rely on customers to supply tests that can't be verified, then what does that tell you about the company? There are literally thousands of tests shared on another platform and in discord testing servers. People run tests on their own and share them every day. And for $30, they can get the name changed on the report so that it can be verified. This makes ZERO sense and screams SCAM! Right off the bat, the very first thing I saw was the task #... Jano is way beyond task #47 or whatever it said. That is the worst attempt to fake a test I've seen yet.

These are just excuses and lies they use to screw people. They are preying on people who don't know better and I highly recommend you spend some time reading in here and find other avenues. If they are willing to fake test results, it's probably because they know their product won't live up to expectations.

Can say JoLynns GB used ZZB for T15 (test result).

Also J5 is using ZYH for an R24 GB. They had a pre order of “stocked” R24 that they tested before choosing the vendor. (test result).

I do believe all these various names ZZB, ZZT, ZYH, Look Pharma, Pepceuticals, Heibe Laixing, etc are all part of Look/Laixing Group and are related in some way.

 

[Cavalier]

I have bought from Jessie a few times (like 4). Have gotten about 4 kits of Tirz from her, all arrived fine and sent off to peptidetest.com for testing. All came back good. I’d still recommend anyone buying from anyone to get it tested as i do. But never had an issue with Jessie and always had good luck with them. I’ve only dealt with Jessie and no other rep so cant say much about any other rep from them but Jessie has been great and the product has been great so far. Ive also bought other peps from her during this time, since those were cheap compared to the Tirz and the tirz has always been good, i will admit I haven’t tested the other pep ive gotten form her only the tirz. But never have not received the product, always used alibaba to pay as i can always chargeback a CC. But what I CAN say is that QSC besides having horrible cust service is they dont label their product at all and my rep told me the wrong box was tirz! They sent me Epitalon 10mg and TIrz 50mg kits but neither were marked and in the same bag. I asked which color caps was the tirz, they replied the cap color changes and isnt a good way to tell which is which. SO i took a pic of the two kits and asked which was tirz, they told me one answer then changed their answer a few minutes later but guaranteed the one they were telling me is tirz is correct. So i sent a sample to peptidetest.com and let them know it may or may not be tirz and let them know the situation, a week later i got the test results back….0% Tirz (It was the Epitalon!) imagine telling me the wrong medicine in a kit?!?! Horrible and thank god i sent it off to get tested or I could’ve really fucked myself. SO no more QSC for me and as much crap as ZZB gets for not springing for their tirz tests, i always send a vial out and its always been good results. So everyone do what you feel is best for you, but until i have a bad experience with Jessie, ill stick with her for tirz and for other Pepe they carry. I also use 3 other vendors for different pep, Some carry what i need and some do not so i use different vendors for different peps as i assume most here do. Just my experience, not trying to convince anyone of anything, but Jessie hasn’t steered me wrong yet.

 

[Bacchus]

Well looks like the guy on Reddit ha started its own reseller business, I've received this link this morning from him : https://musclenerds.shop/

I'm not planning to buy from him ofc given how he picks vendors and potentially lie about the tests he has made.

A shopify store selling steroids? 😛

Doubt it will stay online for long

 

[scarywood75]

A shopify store selling steroids? 😛

Doubt it will stay online for long

Yeah, it's gonna be funny to see how this goes 😅

 

[Kahtia24]

It's a gold rush, and everyone seems to want in.

My friend and I used to joke we would rob a bank to not have to work anymore. My new version is I should start a pep company 😜😂

 

[Artslayr]

Can say JoLynns GB used ZZB for T15 (test result).

Also J5 is using ZYH for an R24 GB. They had a pre order of “stocked” R24 that they tested before choosing the vendor. (test result).

I do believe all these various names ZZB, ZZT, ZYH, Look Pharma, Pepceuticals, Heibe Laixing, etc are all part of Look/Laixing Group and are related in some way.

I just bought 15mg Tirz from Jessie today and paid using btc . I’ll keep you posted on how it goes.🙏🤞🏻

 

[Lowkey]

I'm placing a order today out of curiosity. Will probably get it tested at Trust Pointe Analytics as well. This thread has been interesting.

 

[Vacation4us]

I'm placing an order today out of curiosity. Will probably get it tested at Trust Pointe Analytics as well. This thread has been interesting.

Brave. Out of all the vendors why would you pick one that gave out fake COA’s?
Interesting choice

 

[Lowkey]

Well, this thread has definitely been enlightening, especially since I just placed an order with them via WhatsApp. I can’t understand why anyone would think it’s a good idea to share a fake COA—talk about an instant way to screw your reputation.

I found PolyPeptide/Zhaobo Biotechnology (PPZB) through the same person others have referenced here (MN on Reddit). After finding this thread this morning, I reached out to him with my concerns, and he replied pretty quickly. I don’t get the impression that he’s shady; in general, his copy/paste message cited multiple sources (kits4less, QSC, PPZB) and provided a lot of helpful details for people new to peptides. I can understand why he wouldn't want to retype all of that information every time someone sent him a message.

Before I placed my order, PPZB sent me a COA from peptidetest.com dated August 2024. I believe it to be legitimate; I emailed info@peptidetest and they directed me to their verification tool to confirm its authenticity: https://coa.trustpointeanalytics.com, using the verification key. It passed, so that's a positive.

Ultimately, this doesn’t excuse the shady actions of this supplier in providing fake COAs in the past, that is an incredibly shady thing to do. However, it does offer some reassurance that their product is legitimate. Anyhow, if you do proceed with an order, do so with caution. Results attached.

The problems I've found with MN on reddit are all the lies and the scammer MO. Newly created account. Went to all the threads scammers and bots go to post in order to quickly gain karma on day 1. Started the account the with intent to build rapport with people to sell. Advice on peptides and steroids are shotty at best and resemble someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Opens store. Tells everyone his sources don't want to sell single kits anymore. A few days into his store opening, tells people he's had over 300 orders so far (As of yesterday, his newest order number counted 38). Tells everyone who ordered from him that there are so many orders, he can't keep up and needs time to ship (3-5 days). nearly 2 weeks in, still no shipments. I have a friend who ordered on day 1, still waiting. I'm sure he has no inventory nor the money to get it. And didn't know shopify holds funds for 30 days on new accounts.

You may not have noticed anything shady in your conversations with him. But I did going through his comments. The way he makes sure to relate to whoever he's talking to. Seeing those comments and statements contradict each other. To one person, he is overweight. The next person, he's a low fat bodybuilder. I've never talked to the guy. People came to me when meeting him and things just didn't add up. Looked into him further, saw enough red flags and warned all those people. Long before the store opened. Some noticed what I was talking about. Like how he told some people how easy it is to manipulate people. Others decided to continue to trust the guy. Now some of them are stuck waiting for their order to ship. I gave him the benefit of the doubt personally knowing his suppliers and his prices are justifiable. But after all this time, I just started telling people to refund their orders. Luckily he uses shopify. He can't refuse a refund.