Nexaph testing

Regarding the tirzepatidehelp issue, Cain was caught having a company rep infiltrating their 3rd party testing to manipulate it in his favor. This is a huge problem and to his credit, Stairmaster took this very seriously and addressed the issue.

Sorry, but what the fuck is wrong with this dude? Running a profitable peptide business isn't rocket science. You buy product from a reputable manufacturer or distributor, pay for some tests to confirm quantity (and where relevant sterility), then sell for cost + profit to people with some nice stickers on it.

That's the ENTIRE business model.

There's no need to do all of this weird shit. Cain appears to be an actual pathological liar

Anyway, someone should probably let the folks on the other forum know. Probably not me since I think the gator may be mad at me. @DwightTheDelight, @milos, @Bacchus, you all are in good standing. Any one of you want to take one for the team?

I should have been a bit more cautious in how I portrayed this. I sounds like Cain kind of manipulated the individual towards something corrupt, but she drew a line.

Yeah but he still tried it which is a problem on its own.
 
Sorry, but what the fuck is wrong with this dude? Running a profitable peptide business isn't rocket science. You buy product from a reputable manufacturer or distributor, pay for some tests to confirm quantity (and where relevant sterility), then sell for cost + profit to people with some nice stickers on it.

That's the ENTIRE business model.

There's no need to do all of this weird shit. Cain appears to be an actual pathological liar

Anyway, someone should probably let the folks on the other forum know. Probably not me since I think the gator may be mad at me. @DwightTheDelight, @milos, @Bacchus, you all are in good standing. Any one of you want to take one for the team?



Yeah but he still tried it which is a problem on its own.
This is what we've been trying to warn about since Nexaph failed sterility testing and their community got mad when we questioned them. Glad more people are seeing past the veil of convenience and salesman tactics as more events like this happen while following a pattern.
 
Sorry, but what the fuck is wrong with this dude? Running a profitable peptide business isn't rocket science. You buy product from a reputable manufacturer or distributor, pay for some tests to confirm quantity (and where relevant sterility), then sell for cost + profit to people with some nice stickers on it.

That's the ENTIRE business model.

There's no need to do all of this weird shit. Cain appears to be an actual pathological liar

Anyway, someone should probably let the folks on the other forum know. Probably not me since I think the gator may be mad at me. @DwightTheDelight, @milos, @Bacchus, you all are in good standing. Any one of you want to take one for the team?



Yeah but he still tried it which is a problem on its own.

I was excited about receiving my replacement Reta last week too :( They were going to be my go to vendor for stepping up, replacing it, and not just ignoring that purity guarantee issue.

Thank you to everyone for compiling this info and sharing it. @noteablequotable it's a stretch to say I'm in good standing anywhere, just kind of tolerated like a fly on the other side of the room, so I'm probably not the best person to start this conversation over there, but I bet it's already known about. It seems like most of us frequent both sites.
 
I was excited about receiving my replacement Reta last week too :( They were going to be my go to vendor for stepping up, replacing it, and not just ignoring that purity guarantee issue.

I'm sorry. If you're looking for a replacement I've had incredibly good customer service from ASC. They aren't the cheapest but they will refund you at the drop of a hat and offer creative solutions when things don't go as expected. They are generally very responsive when it comes to communication. I'm working on a longer review but at this point I feel good about them.

Thank you to everyone for compiling this info and sharing it. @noteablequotable it's a stretch to say I'm in good standing anywhere, just kind of tolerated like a fly on the other side of the room, so I'm probably not the best person to start this conversation over there, but I bet it's already known about. It seems like most of us frequent both sites.

I think people enjoy your presence more than you know, so don't be hard on yourself.

I do think someone should post over there because even if people frequent both sites they may miss this thread. There are also a lot of new users there who've never been to Peppy's or this forum and they definitely won't see this information.
 
I was excited about receiving my replacement Reta last week too :( They were going to be my go to vendor for stepping up, replacing it, and not just ignoring that purity guarantee issue.

Thank you to everyone for compiling this info and sharing it. @noteablequotable it's a stretch to say I'm in good standing anywhere, just kind of tolerated like a fly on the other side of the room, so I'm probably not the best person to start this conversation over there, but I bet it's already known about. It seems like most of us frequent both sites.
Nexa has gone above and beyond for me. I ordered a kit of Tirz 10. It felt a little lacking, but I just thought I needed to titrate up. Out of the blue, they sent an entire new kit because a test came back on the batch that was below their standard. I didn’t even have to email them. He just sent it. To me that is A+ integrity and earned my trust.

Dionisis does have a strong bias toward them. I agree with whoever said that, but I still think Cain try’s to do right by folks.

And you’re my favorite fly on the wall Dwight!
 
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I was excited about receiving my replacement Reta last week too :( They were going to be my go to vendor for stepping up, replacing it, and not just ignoring that purity guarantee issue.

Thank you to everyone for compiling this info and sharing it. @noteablequotable it's a stretch to say I'm in good standing anywhere, just kind of tolerated like a fly on the other side of the room, so I'm probably not the best person to start this conversation over there, but I bet it's already known about. It seems like most of us frequent both sites.
Nuh-uh, you're like, his favorite PITA.

Are screenshots allowed? I'm willing to be a squeaky wheel, unless Andy thinks that's attention seeking behavior. I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other but it's good for people to be informed when injectables are on the table.
 
Nexa has gone above and beyond for me. I ordered a kit of Tirz 10. It felt a little lacking, but I just thought I needed to titrate up. Out of the blue, they sent an entire new kit because a test came back on the batch that was below their standard. I didn’t even have to email them. He just sent it. To me that is A+ integrity and earned my trust.

Dionisis does have a strong bias toward them. I agree with whoever said that, but I still think Cain try’s to do right by folks.

And you’re my favorite fly on the wall Dwight!

I have had good experiences with them as well, but even if we assume no malicious intent, Cain has shown a startling lack of good judgement.

While I think it's possible to excuse some of their behavior as unintended, you do have to draw a line somewhere. Attempting to influence the outcome of test results by covertly engaging someone in a test group is unacceptable. Making the mistake of using an excipient that is interacting with GLP-1S in unusual and potentially unsafe ways and sending that product to your customers without disclosing that information, and no commitment to remedying it is also unacceptable.

Like I said, this is a fairly simple business model. I think most people on this forum could open a peptide shop without doing any of the weird things Cain is doing, It's just completely unnecessary.

Cain doesn't seem to have the instincts to understand right from wrong, high risk decisions from low ones, and for that reason he shouldn't be entrusted with anyone's health.
 
Regarding the tirzepatidehelp issue, Cain was caught having a company rep infiltrating their 3rd party testing to manipulate it in his favor. This is a huge problem and to his credit, Stairmaster took this very seriously and addressed the issue.

Can you elaborate more on this, like what exactly was said? How could anyone manipulate a test in their own favor without being in league with the lab doing the testing? And as far as I'm aware, none of the major player labs are that unscrupulous.

Was this interloper just trying to downplay less than optional results, or...? Certainly they couldn't have manipulated the actual test result?
 
From my understanding, they know who has this batch and will automatically ship replacement.
I will be looking for it 😁
That explains why I got an email yesterday from Nexa with shipping confirmation and I was confused because I hadn’t ordered anything. I do recall using the Tirz 10 I got from them and when I went to recon a new vial I reached for a different vendors batch because it seemed weak to me. I gave my virgin RS the Nexa since they wouldn’t know the difference and they are doing well with it and losing so it can’t be too bad.
 
Can you elaborate more on this, like what exactly was said? How could anyone manipulate a test in their own favor without being in league with the lab doing the testing? And as far as I'm aware, none of the major player labs are that unscrupulous.

Was this interloper just trying to downplay less than optional results, or...? Certainly they couldn't have manipulated the actual test result?
I'll just quote stairmaster1 directly so i don't screw up the details again. If anyone knows if there is a policy against this let me know and I'll remove. Also edited the name of the individual Cain tried to influence so as not to doxx anyone.

Again, I really appreciate Stairmaster1 taking this seriously, especially with the number of newer people he's mentoring, having a zero tolerance policy for this stuff and explaining why its unacceptable is huge plus to the larger grey market peptide world.

Nexaph/SNP Cain is now working with X who is in every one of our Nexaph testing groups and is organizing a few of them.

If you work/volunteer with a vendor you cannot be involved in our community’s third party testing of vendors.

We have refunded her entire contribution of $334 from the Full Spectrum Testing group. No vial was contributed to Full Spectrum Testing.

All remaining tests with participation by X are no longer 3rd party tests and will not be allowed to be posted here. Please contact Cain at Nexaph for a refund of your testing fees and vials, I believe they are offering to pay for them. The T15 and T30 test were organized by X, but the vials were not collected by her. The tainted money also makes the tests a Vendor COA = toilet paper.

X was kind enough to let me know of her official relationship with Cain, her participation in our testing groups, and her participation in PTDS. I don't think she's a bad person, I think Cain misled her into this and now she regrets it. There's not much we can do though.

I am sure there are other vendor representatives hiding amongst us and we are taking steps to mitigate their ability to contribute funds or vials to our tests.

This undermines trust in our community and this is not the first time Cain/Nexaph/SNP has done this.

The next step I will take if something like this happens again is banning all mention of Nexaph other than extreme warnings to never use them.
 

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