Nexaph testing

Is that a fact or your intuition? I thought he said he talked to him about it. But working with him would be different.
He won’t admit it because he knows it will lead to his removal from the server. He highly values being on the server because it gives him a place to say things that he thinks make people admire his intellect. It will never be “fact” because of that. But there is every indication that it’s true, and he won’t answer simple questions about when asked directly. To clarify I don’t know if cash is exchanged, I just believe “consulting services” are being rendered
 
crossing fingers these screenshots can come out as i've got some nexa T30 in the freezer and am in a group test that's got some vials on the way to jano as we speak. i'm very curious what he has to say this go around beyond just purity/fill.
I bought Nexaph T30 kits in late September and these are the only T30's in my stockpile that don't have independent (my own) testing. His COA's looked legit so I didn't test on receipt, but will probably test when I start using in the next year or two. Were the vials you are testing by any chance from this timeframe? If so, I'd like to join the test if possible.
 
Cain isn't allowed there, but I'm sure he knows it was said. It was jano telling us about it. You'd have to ask Cain, I believe he's spoken about it at some point. Personally I wrote him off as an potential option last time so I'm not seeking out his side. (he also got in trouble over at tirzhelp for another thing recently too)

The downside of not being in the deeper end is it takes longer for information to float up here. But we really do try to keep people informed. If you care about verifying stuff like that and seeing it for yourself I'm happy to help you get in.
There's actually quite a bit if info about this vendor that people don't seem to be aware of here. Do you mind posting some pics of the bad crimps on that MOTS-C? @peptideusername also had some pics of caps that were completely loose, hopefully he can post those too. This is not a problem other vendors have. It's surprising to me some here still believe Nexaphs products are fine.

Regarding the tirzepatidehelp issue, Cain was caught having a company rep infiltrating their 3rd party testing to manipulate it in his favor. This is a huge problem and to his credit, Stairmaster took this very seriously and addressed the issue.
 
He won’t admit it because he knows it will lead to his removal from the server. He highly values being on the server because it gives him a place to say things that he thinks make people admire his intellect. It will never be “fact” because of that. But there is every indication that it’s true, and he won’t answer simple questions about when asked directly. To clarify I don’t know if cash is exchanged, I just believe “consulting services” are being rendered
Fair enough, just wanted to clarify. I know you have way more context than me.
 
I appreciate the offer. I am ready trying to connect with someone in discord so that they can invite me to the test group, but I'll let you know if that doesn't work out.
I'm in the telegram nexaph
I appreciate the offer. I am ready trying to connect with someone in discord so that they can invite me to the test group, but I'll let you know if that doesn't work out.
 
Regarding the tirzepatidehelp issue, Cain was caught having a company rep infiltrating their 3rd party testing to manipulate it in his favor. This is a huge problem and to his credit, Stairmaster took this very seriously and addressed the issue.
okay i gotta call cap on this part. this was a regular person that organized two Nexa 3rd party group tests in a row (because she's competent and good at it) who was approached by Cain about partnering in a more formal partnership (aka she continues doing what she's been doing). when she ended up accepting, she disclosed it to stairmaster1 who made an announcement in the telegram channel alerting folks to it.

i want to be clear, there is zero evidence to suggest that this person (michelle) manipulated anything in cain's favor. no one sent any vials to her to send to trustpointe (i would know, i'm in one of her group test groups). a more accurate assessment here would be that cain recruited her to continue doing what she had been doing all along.

this isn't a defense of cain/nexa. idk if i'm gonna use what i have in storage and i'm definitely not gonna buy from him again. but i think it's important that we don't get carried away here with this.
 
okay i gotta call cap on this part. this was a regular person that organized two Nexa 3rd party group tests in a row (because she's competent and good at it) who was approached by Cain about partnering in a more formal partnership (aka she continues doing what she's been doing). when she ended up accepting, she disclosed it to stairmaster1 who made an announcement in the telegram channel alerting folks to it.

i want to be clear, there is zero evidence to suggest that this person (michelle) manipulated anything in cain's favor. no one sent any vials to her to send to trustpointe (i would know, i'm in one of her group test groups). a more accurate assessment here would be that cain recruited her to continue doing what she had been doing all along.

this isn't a defense of cain/nexa. idk if i'm gonna use what i have in storage and i'm definitely not gonna buy from him again. but i think it's important that we don't get carried away here with
It's possible the individual wasn't going to manipulate the testing, the fact she confessed her connection is evidence of as much. But even if you want to give her the benefit of the doubt here, please don't give it to Cain. Vendors have no business putting reps in 3rd party tests. Doing so fundamentally undermines the most critical safety feature we have and we as a community should not take this lightly.
 
It's possible the individual wasn't going to manipulate the testing, the fact she confessed her connection is evidence of as much. But even if you want to give her the benefit of the doubt here, please don't give it to Cain. Vendors have no business putting reps in 3rd party tests. Doing so fundamentally undermines the most critical safety feature we have and we as a community should not take this lightly.
yup that's fair, i agree it's improper (and bordering on scummy) for cain to organize/recruit/partner with a regular group tester, especially without disclosing it as such. i just wanted to set the record straight that based on the evidence we have available, no foul play is believed to have occurred with regards to this group test coordinator and the folks who participated in her group tests.
 
yup that's fair, i agree it's improper (and bordering on scummy) for cain to organize/recruit/partner with a regular group tester, especially without disclosing it as such. i just wanted to set the record straight that based on the evidence we have available, no foul play is believed to have occurred with regards to this group test coordinator and the folks who participated in her group tests.
I should have been a bit more cautious in how I portrayed this. I sounds like Cain kind of manipulated the individual towards something corrupt, but she drew a line.
 
Regarding the tirzepatidehelp issue, Cain was caught having a company rep infiltrating their 3rd party testing to manipulate it in his favor. This is a huge problem and to his credit, Stairmaster took this very seriously and addressed the issue.

Sorry, but what the fuck is wrong with this dude? Running a profitable peptide business isn't rocket science. You buy product from a reputable manufacturer or distributor, pay for some tests to confirm quantity (and where relevant sterility), then sell for cost + profit to people with some nice stickers on it.

That's the ENTIRE business model.

There's no need to do all of this weird shit. Cain appears to be an actual pathological liar

Anyway, someone should probably let the folks on the other forum know. Probably not me since I think the gator may be mad at me. @DwightTheDelight, @milos, @Bacchus, you all are in good standing. Any one of you want to take one for the team?

I should have been a bit more cautious in how I portrayed this. I sounds like Cain kind of manipulated the individual towards something corrupt, but she drew a line.

Yeah but he still tried it which is a problem on its own.
 
Sorry, but what the fuck is wrong with this dude? Running a profitable peptide business isn't rocket science. You buy product from a reputable manufacturer or distributor, pay for some tests to confirm quantity (and where relevant sterility), then sell for cost + profit to people with some nice stickers on it.

That's the ENTIRE business model.

There's no need to do all of this weird shit. Cain appears to be an actual pathological liar

Anyway, someone should probably let the folks on the other forum know. Probably not me since I think the gator may be mad at me. @DwightTheDelight, @milos, @Bacchus, you all are in good standing. Any one of you want to take one for the team?



Yeah but he still tried it which is a problem on its own.
This is what we've been trying to warn about since Nexaph failed sterility testing and their community got mad when we questioned them. Glad more people are seeing past the veil of convenience and salesman tactics as more events like this happen while following a pattern.
 
Sorry, but what the fuck is wrong with this dude? Running a profitable peptide business isn't rocket science. You buy product from a reputable manufacturer or distributor, pay for some tests to confirm quantity (and where relevant sterility), then sell for cost + profit to people with some nice stickers on it.

That's the ENTIRE business model.

There's no need to do all of this weird shit. Cain appears to be an actual pathological liar

Anyway, someone should probably let the folks on the other forum know. Probably not me since I think the gator may be mad at me. @DwightTheDelight, @milos, @Bacchus, you all are in good standing. Any one of you want to take one for the team?



Yeah but he still tried it which is a problem on its own.

I was excited about receiving my replacement Reta last week too :( They were going to be my go to vendor for stepping up, replacing it, and not just ignoring that purity guarantee issue.

Thank you to everyone for compiling this info and sharing it. @noteablequotable it's a stretch to say I'm in good standing anywhere, just kind of tolerated like a fly on the other side of the room, so I'm probably not the best person to start this conversation over there, but I bet it's already known about. It seems like most of us frequent both sites.
 
I was excited about receiving my replacement Reta last week too :( They were going to be my go to vendor for stepping up, replacing it, and not just ignoring that purity guarantee issue.

I'm sorry. If you're looking for a replacement I've had incredibly good customer service from ASC. They aren't the cheapest but they will refund you at the drop of a hat and offer creative solutions when things don't go as expected. They are generally very responsive when it comes to communication. I'm working on a longer review but at this point I feel good about them.

Thank you to everyone for compiling this info and sharing it. @noteablequotable it's a stretch to say I'm in good standing anywhere, just kind of tolerated like a fly on the other side of the room, so I'm probably not the best person to start this conversation over there, but I bet it's already known about. It seems like most of us frequent both sites.

I think people enjoy your presence more than you know, so don't be hard on yourself.

I do think someone should post over there because even if people frequent both sites they may miss this thread. There are also a lot of new users there who've never been to Peppy's or this forum and they definitely won't see this information.
 
I was excited about receiving my replacement Reta last week too :( They were going to be my go to vendor for stepping up, replacing it, and not just ignoring that purity guarantee issue.

Thank you to everyone for compiling this info and sharing it. @noteablequotable it's a stretch to say I'm in good standing anywhere, just kind of tolerated like a fly on the other side of the room, so I'm probably not the best person to start this conversation over there, but I bet it's already known about. It seems like most of us frequent both sites.
Nexa has gone above and beyond for me. I ordered a kit of Tirz 10. It felt a little lacking, but I just thought I needed to titrate up. Out of the blue, they sent an entire new kit because a test came back on the batch that was below their standard. I didn’t even have to email them. He just sent it. To me that is A+ integrity and earned my trust.

Dionisis does have a strong bias toward them. I agree with whoever said that, but I still think Cain try’s to do right by folks.

And you’re my favorite fly on the wall Dwight!
 
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