zpped
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Is that a fact or your intuition? I thought he said he talked to him about it. But working with him would be different.
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Same. I'm out.
He won’t admit it because he knows it will lead to his removal from the server. He highly values being on the server because it gives him a place to say things that he thinks make people admire his intellect. It will never be “fact” because of that. But there is every indication that it’s true, and he won’t answer simple questions about when asked directly. To clarify I don’t know if cash is exchanged, I just believe “consulting services” are being rendered
GimmeABreak
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I bought Nexaph T30 kits in late September and these are the only T30's in my stockpile that don't have independent (my own) testing. His COA's looked legit so I didn't test on receipt, but will probably test when I start using in the next year or two. Were the vials you are testing by any chance from this timeframe? If so, I'd like to join the test if possible.
Chizikitide-1977
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There's actually quite a bit if info about this vendor that people don't seem to be aware of here. Do you mind posting some pics of the bad crimps on that MOTS-C? @peptideusername also had some pics of caps that were completely loose, hopefully he can post those too. This is not a problem other vendors have. It's surprising to me some here still believe Nexaphs products are fine.
Regarding the tirzepatidehelp issue, Cain was caught having a company rep infiltrating their 3rd party testing to manipulate it in his favor. This is a huge problem and to his credit, Stairmaster took this very seriously and addressed the issue.
zpped
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Fair enough, just wanted to clarify. I know you have way more context than me.
okay i gotta call cap on this part. this was a regular person that organized two Nexa 3rd party group tests in a row (because she's competent and good at it) who was approached by Cain about partnering in a more formal partnership (aka she continues doing what she's been doing). when she ended up accepting, she disclosed it to stairmaster1 who made an announcement in the telegram channel alerting folks to it.
i want to be clear, there is zero evidence to suggest that this person (michelle) manipulated anything in cain's favor. no one sent any vials to her to send to trustpointe (i would know, i'm in one of her group test groups). a more accurate assessment here would be that cain recruited her to continue doing what she had been doing all along.
this isn't a defense of cain/nexa. idk if i'm gonna use what i have in storage and i'm definitely not gonna buy from him again. but i think it's important that we don't get carried away here with this.
Chizikitide-1977
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It's possible the individual wasn't going to manipulate the testing, the fact she confessed her connection is evidence of as much. But even if you want to give her the benefit of the doubt here, please don't give it to Cain. Vendors have no business putting reps in 3rd party tests. Doing so fundamentally undermines the most critical safety feature we have and we as a community should not take this lightly.
yup that's fair, i agree it's improper (and bordering on scummy) for cain to organize/recruit/partner with a regular group tester, especially without disclosing it as such. i just wanted to set the record straight that based on the evidence we have available, no foul play is believed to have occurred with regards to this group test coordinator and the folks who participated in her group tests.
Chizikitide-1977
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I should have been a bit more cautious in how I portrayed this. I sounds like Cain kind of manipulated the individual towards something corrupt, but she drew a line.
You mean the
No this is someone else, but definitely of the same ilk.
noteablequotable
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Sorry, but what the fuck is wrong with this dude? Running a profitable peptide business isn't rocket science. You buy product from a reputable manufacturer or distributor, pay for some tests to confirm quantity (and where relevant sterility), then sell for cost + profit to people with some nice stickers on it.
That's the ENTIRE business model.
There's no need to do all of this weird shit. Cain appears to be an actual pathological liar
Anyway, someone should probably let the folks on the other forum know. Probably not me since I think the gator may be mad at me. @DwightTheDelight, @milos, @Bacchus, you all are in good standing. Any one of you want to take one for the team?
Yeah but he still tried it which is a problem on its own.
This is what we've been trying to warn about since Nexaph failed sterility testing and their community got mad when we questioned them. Glad more people are seeing past the veil of convenience and salesman tactics as more events like this happen while following a pattern.
