Nexaph testing

[chmuse]

I was excited about receiving my replacement Reta last week too They were going to be my go to vendor for stepping up, replacing it, and not just ignoring that purity guarantee issue.

Thank you to everyone for compiling this info and sharing it. @noteablequotable it's a stretch to say I'm in good standing anywhere, just kind of tolerated like a fly on the other side of the room, so I'm probably not the best person to start this conversation over there, but I bet it's already known about. It seems like most of us frequent both sites.

Nuh-uh, you're like, his favorite PITA.

Are screenshots allowed? I'm willing to be a squeaky wheel, unless Andy thinks that's attention seeking behavior. I'm not expressing an opinion one way or the other but it's good for people to be informed when injectables are on the table.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

And you’re my favorite fly on the wall Dwight!

obnoxious prick who thinks they're the life of the party but really just an obnoxious prick.

but with all the wokeness i have to love him or i look like the obnoxious prick.

 

[chmuse]

obnoxious prick who thinks they're the life of the party but really just an obnoxious prick.

but with all the wokeness i have to love him or i look like the obnoxious prick.

Ooh ooh, do me next!

 

[AndyPanda]

Don’t give into the wokeness!

obnoxious prick who thinks they're the life of the party but really just an obnoxious prick.

but with all the wokeness i have to love him or i look like the obnoxious prick.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

Ooh ooh, do me next!

you'll have to give me your FetLife user name first.

you'll probably have to do me though since i'm a bottom.

 

[chmuse]

you'll have to give me your FetLife user name first.

you'll probably have to do me though since i'm a bottom.

I thought you were married, dear.

 

[noteablequotable]

Nexa has gone above and beyond for me. I ordered a kit of Tirz 10. It felt a little lacking, but I just thought I needed to titrate up. Out of the blue, they sent an entire new kit because a test came back on the batch that was below their standard. I didn’t even have to email them. He just sent it. To me that is A+ integrity and earned my trust.

Dionisis does have a strong bias toward them. I agree with whoever said that, but I still think Cain try’s to do right by folks.

And you’re my favorite fly on the wall Dwight!

I have had good experiences with them as well, but even if we assume no malicious intent, Cain has shown a startling lack of good judgement.

While I think it's possible to excuse some of their behavior as unintended, you do have to draw a line somewhere. Attempting to influence the outcome of test results by covertly engaging someone in a test group is unacceptable. Making the mistake of using an excipient that is interacting with GLP-1S in unusual and potentially unsafe ways and sending that product to your customers without disclosing that information, and no commitment to remedying it is also unacceptable.

Like I said, this is a fairly simple business model. I think most people on this forum could open a peptide shop without doing any of the weird things Cain is doing, It's just completely unnecessary.

Cain doesn't seem to have the instincts to understand right from wrong, high risk decisions from low ones, and for that reason he shouldn't be entrusted with anyone's health.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

The icing on the cake is that he has kept Shanghai in the name after being revealed to be a Midwestern dude. I know it’s petty but that detail cracks me up.

 

[MiniatureSnail]

Regarding the tirzepatidehelp issue, Cain was caught having a company rep infiltrating their 3rd party testing to manipulate it in his favor. This is a huge problem and to his credit, Stairmaster took this very seriously and addressed the issue.

Can you elaborate more on this, like what exactly was said? How could anyone manipulate a test in their own favor without being in league with the lab doing the testing? And as far as I'm aware, none of the major player labs are that unscrupulous.

Was this interloper just trying to downplay less than optional results, or...? Certainly they couldn't have manipulated the actual test result?

 

[SunnyDispo]

From my understanding, they know who has this batch and will automatically ship replacement.
I will be looking for it

That explains why I got an email yesterday from Nexa with shipping confirmation and I was confused because I hadn’t ordered anything. I do recall using the Tirz 10 I got from them and when I went to recon a new vial I reached for a different vendors batch because it seemed weak to me. I gave my virgin RS the Nexa since they wouldn’t know the difference and they are doing well with it and losing so it can’t be too bad.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

Can you elaborate more on this, like what exactly was said? How could anyone manipulate a test in their own favor without being in league with the lab doing the testing? And as far as I'm aware, none of the major player labs are that unscrupulous.

Was this interloper just trying to downplay less than optional results, or...? Certainly they couldn't have manipulated the actual test result?

I'll just quote stairmaster1 directly so i don't screw up the details again. If anyone knows if there is a policy against this let me know and I'll remove. Also edited the name of the individual Cain tried to influence so as not to doxx anyone.

Again, I really appreciate Stairmaster1 taking this seriously, especially with the number of newer people he's mentoring, having a zero tolerance policy for this stuff and explaining why its unacceptable is huge plus to the larger grey market peptide world.

Nexaph/SNP Cain is now working with X who is in every one of our Nexaph testing groups and is organizing a few of them.

If you work/volunteer with a vendor you cannot be involved in our community’s third party testing of vendors.

We have refunded her entire contribution of $334 from the Full Spectrum Testing group. No vial was contributed to Full Spectrum Testing.

All remaining tests with participation by X are no longer 3rd party tests and will not be allowed to be posted here. Please contact Cain at Nexaph for a refund of your testing fees and vials, I believe they are offering to pay for them. The T15 and T30 test were organized by X, but the vials were not collected by her. The tainted money also makes the tests a Vendor COA = toilet paper.

X was kind enough to let me know of her official relationship with Cain, her participation in our testing groups, and her participation in PTDS. I don't think she's a bad person, I think Cain misled her into this and now she regrets it. There's not much we can do though.

I am sure there are other vendor representatives hiding amongst us and we are taking steps to mitigate their ability to contribute funds or vials to our tests.

This undermines trust in our community and this is not the first time Cain/Nexaph/SNP has done this.

The next step I will take if something like this happens again is banning all mention of Nexaph other than extreme warnings to never use them.

 

[MiniatureSnail]

I'll just quote stairmaster1 directly so i don't screw up the details again. If anyone knows if there is a policy against this let me know and I'll remove. Also edited the name of the individual Cain tried to influence so as not to doxx anyone.

Again, I really appreciate Stairmaster1 taking this seriously, especially with the number of newer people he's mentoring, having a zero tolerance policy for this stuff and explaining why its unacceptable is huge plus to the larger grey market peptide world.

While this does provide more context, I still do not understand how someone (Person X, in this case) could directly affect the results of a group test if they are not the one collecting the vials and never handled them (which, it sounds like in this situation, she didn't).

If everyone involved in the group test sends their vials directly to the lab, but Person X just helps facilitate by making a spreadsheet and organizing funds - how does that at all change what the test results will be?

Even if Person X was being supplied known high quality samples to contribute, that one vial would still be an outlier of the batch as a whole didn't test well.

What am I missing here?

 

[YoYoFat]

I'll just quote stairmaster1 directly so i don't screw up the details again. If anyone knows if there is a policy against this let me know and I'll remove. Also edited the name of the individual Cain tried to influence so as not to doxx anyone.

Again, I really appreciate Stairmaster1 taking this seriously, especially with the number of newer people he's mentoring, having a zero tolerance policy for this stuff and explaining why its unacceptable is huge plus to the larger grey market peptide world.

Stairmaster has walked back some of his original hysterics about this, but his characterization of Cain being willing to pay for the group tests coordinated by someone else with vials randomly selected and sent by customers directly to the testing company as the greatest scandal of the month is a bit much.

Cain is willing to pay for group tests. Beyond that, he has no involvement.

 

[YoYoFat]

While this does provide more context, I still do not understand how someone (Person X, in this case) could directly affect the results of a group test if they are not the one collecting the vials and never handled them (which, it sounds like in this situation, she didn't).

If everyone involved in the group test sends their vials directly to the lab, but Person X just helps facilitate by making a spreadsheet and organizing funds - how does that at all change what the test results will be?

Even if Person X was being supplied known high quality samples to contribute, that one vial would still be an outlier of the batch as a whole didn't test well.

What am I missing here?

You’re not missing anything. We sent vials directly to the lab ourselves. The benefit is that none of us had to pay for it.

 

[YoYoFat]

Regarding the tirzepatidehelp issue, Cain was caught having a company rep infiltrating their 3rd party testing to manipulate it in his favor. This is a huge problem and to his credit, Stairmaster took this very seriously and addressed the issue.

This is a bald faced lie. Please, let’s do better than fling wild accusations like this around.

Manipulate?? How?? By paying for group tests coordinated by someone else, where that person has folks who volunteer send their vials directly to the labs themselves?

How does that manipulate anything??

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

@YoYoFat what is your opinion on toothpaste efficacy studies funded by Colgate out of curiosity?

 

[MiniatureSnail]

You’re not missing anything. We sent vials directly to the lab ourselves. The benefit is that none of us had to pay for it.

Then I don't understand what the problem is.

Lots of vendors offer to pay for the cost of the group test for GBs after the product is sent out and volunteers are chosen.

Not defending Cain/Nexa in general, to be clear. But this particular situation seems like they didn't do anything that other vendors don't also do and SM1 crucified them for it on TG.

So what someone affiliated with the vendor helped organize the test on paper? Literally so the fuck what? As long as everyone didn't also send their vials to that person so that that person could switch them all out for a known well tested batch (which didn't happen here) to manipulate the test results, then what was the wrong doing here?

Not sure SM1 frequents here as often but maybe someone but maybe someone should tag him? Because this is all sounding insane.

 

[MiniatureSnail]

@YoYoFat what is your opinion on toothpaste efficacy studies funded by Colgate out of curiosity?

That's not the same thing unless Colgate also owns or can otherwise control the person/lab who is putting out the results.

Editing for clarity:

Colgate can fund all the studies they want, and as long as they're not manipulating the people doing the studies, who cares who pays for it?

 

[mopo89]

Then I don't understand what the problem is.

Lots of vendors offer to pay for the cost of the group test for GBs after the product is sent out and volunteers are chosen.

Not defending Cain/Nexa in general, to be clear. But this particular situation seems like they didn't do anything that other vendors don't also do and SM1 crucified them for it on TG.

So what someone affiliated with the vendor helped organize the test on paper? Literally so the fuck what? As long as everyone didn't also send their vials to that person so that that person could switch them all out for a known well tested batch (which didn't happen here) to manipulate the test results, then what was the wrong doing here?

Not sure SM1 frequents here as often but maybe someone but maybe someone should tag him? Because this is all sounding insane.

i have no skin in this game because afaik, Nexaph does not ship to Canada, and in any case, I haven't ordered from them.

I am also a bit confused by this person being recruited by Cain. But on the other hand, I'm equally as confused as to why he approached anyone... just let the testing servers do what they do. Why does he need to be involved in any way?

 

[penewbie]

Personally I just dig all the drama.

This is better than celebrity gossip.