Nexaph testing

[noteablequotable]

Because i mentioned it may have been used with Reta, but it turned out that it wasn't used. It was me being too hasty in announcing the issue with the Reta batch which turned out to be nothing more than a bad freeze drying process that caused the degradation. Which in turn has been fixed and re shipped out to all customers with that affected batch.

Cain, I'm going to be honest with you: this is exhausting. While your services are convenient and you are generally fair with your customers there is always some drama around your business practices, and the story about how things went off the rails is always convoluted and difficult to sort out.

Do you have proof from the manufacturer that the issue was with the way that batch of peptides was lyophilized?

I don't think the issue here is that you were too hasty in announcing the issue, it's that you didn't continuously provide us with updates, and you weren't transparent about why you were replacing vials. You could have easily avoided this issue by letting everyone know that you were wrong about the issue being caused by a new filler, explained that this was a manufacturing issue, and provided a timeline for replacement since that's what you did anyway.

Even if I assume there is no intentional wrongdoing here, I'm going to be a little harsh and say it looks like you aren't particularly good at managing your business and public communications.

Are you still working with the manufacturer who sent you a bad batch? That would have been something to announce too. I could never work with a company that cares so little about their own QA that they send me bad product.

 

[Cain_SPC]

If it’s that typical to use for lyo’d peptides it’s hard to imagine Jano, who has been in this business for over a decade and is the biggest, never sees it. Maybe it’s typical in pharma formulations but you’re a midwestern peptide flipper, maybe stick to the stuff that is tried and true and leave the r and d to the guys who are running actual clinical trials.

What are you talking about? I literally told you Tesamorelin's FDA formulation includes histidine. What R & D are you even referring to? I'm not sure if you are actually asking legit questions or just trying to troll. I really cant tell anymore.

 

[Cain_SPC]

Cain, I'm going to be honest with you: this is exhausting. While your services are convenient and you are generally fair with your customers there is always some drama around your business practices, and the story about how things went off the rails is always convoluted and difficult to sort out.

Do you have proof from the manufacturer that the issue was with the way that batch of peptides was lyophilized?

I don't think the issue here is that you were too hasty in announcing the issue, it's that you didn't continuously provide us with updates, and you weren't transparent about why you were replacing vials. You could have easily avoided this issue by letting everyone know that you were wrong about the issue being caused by a new filler, explained that this was a manufacturing issue, and provided a timeline for replacement since that's what you did anyway.

Even if I assume there is no intentional wrongdoing here, I'm going to be a little harsh and say it looks like you aren't particularly good at managing your business and public communications.

Are you still working with the manufacturer who sent you a bad batch? That would have been something to announce too. I could never work with a company that cares so little about their own QA that they send me bad product.

This is exhausting from the people that try to stir up drama around my company, its always the same people around it. If you cannot see that, i don't know what to tell you.

Degradation showed up in the Reta batch, after said degradation showed up i replaced the batch. What more do you want?

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

What are you talking about? I literally told you Tesamorelin's FDA formulation includes histidine. What R & D are you even referring to? I'm not sure if you are actually asking legit questions or just trying to troll. I really cant tell anymore.

My question is if this is such a common filler why is it that Jano, who has done this for a long long time, never sees it but the guy who has been in business for 4 months acts like Jano is the outlier. It is obviously is not typical in the world of bootleg peptides, which is the world you’re in.

 

[hexagonal]

My question is if this is such a common filler why is it that Jano, who has done this for a long long time, never sees it but the guy who has been in business for 4 months acts like Jano is the outlier. It is obviously is not typical in the world of bootleg peptides, which is the world you’re in.

Not a Nexaph customer, no relation to him, but:

If we take him at his word that he is using it only in tesamorelin, and it is the same filler used by the name brand version, this seems like a good thing vs. using a filler that is more common for other peptides.

Do we not want to match the "proper" formula as best as we can?

I don't think either of us are in a position to tell if he's telling the truth about the reta. Did Jano specifically say that he was able to test for histidine in the reta sample and found it?

 

[Cain_SPC]

My question is if this is such a common filler why is it that Jano, who has done this for a long long time, never sees it but the guy who has been in business for 4 months acts like Jano is the outlier. It is obviously is not typical in the world of bootleg peptides, which is the world you’re in.

That is something you'll need to ask Jano about.

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

This is false, Jano never advised against giving it to customers. He said he would advise me against using it in formulations just because they wont be able to test it right as its not a common excipient they are used to testing. That is the reason why i had to send them a sample of the histidine so they can test it properly against their own tests.

Either way, histidine was never used with GLP's. It is used with Tesamorelin and will continue to be used with that as we have found Tesamorelin is most stable with histidine as its buffer along with mannitol and sucrose.

How are you right at the top of dinosys list of green vendors with so many complaints against you? I smell some high level corruption going on here … I have his list with me and you are listed right at the top as number 1 on his list and all new comers would view that as the most trusted vendor on the list. What a load of croc … you paid to be number one on that list …

 

[DwightTheDelight]

How are you right at the top of dinosys list of green vendors with so many complaints against you? I smell some high level corruption going on here … I have his list with me and you are listed right at the top as number 1 on his list and all new comers would view that as the most trusted vendor on the list. What a load of croc … you paid to be number one on that list …

Dude, as you told me once, stfu. Let Cain, bee, and note talk this out without idiots jumping in throwing trash like this into the mix.

This is above our pay grade and I feel like we are getting good info, so just let it play out

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

Dude, as you told me once, stfu. Let Cain, bee, and note talk this out without idiots jumping in throwing trash like this into the mix.

This is above our pay grade and I feel like we are getting good info, so just let it play out

Go live in communist china then censor me u d1khed. I live in a free country and I will speak my mind. You dont like it just piss off. No one asked you to comment.

 

[DwightTheDelight]

Go live in communist china then censor me u d1khed. I live in a free country and I will speak my mind. You dont like it just piss off. No one asked you to comment.

Yeah, I know, I just want non neanderthals to sort this out and we are both idiots, so don't derail this conversation. Let them work it out.

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

Explain this;

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

Right at the very top of the list.

Nexaph.

Corruption for sure.

 

[DwightTheDelight]

Explain this;

Dude you are such an idiot. Do you think this is some novel info? Everyone knows that he is at the top of the spreadsheet. We are past that and trying to get to the bottom of this new info.

Let them do just that. Cain isn't going to sit in this forum just getting blasted by everyone, so just let them talk please, so we can get decent info out of this

 

[brentm]

Right at the very top of the list.

Nexaph.

Corruption for sure.

Sling this one around instead....

r/TirzepatideHelp Vendor List

docs.google.com

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

Look how dinosys tried to lure me into his forums …

Dwight is his best side buddy. Until he got me banned cause I abused his bf…

 

[Cain_SPC]

How are you right at the top of dinosys list of green vendors with so many complaints against you? I smell some high level corruption going on here … I have his list with me and you are listed right at the top as number 1 on his list and all new comers would view that as the most trusted vendor on the list. What a load of croc … you paid to be number one on that list …

Show me a list of complaints by actual customers, all of these "complaints" are from non customers. Ask these "complainers" for receipts of purchase.

 

[DwightTheDelight]

Show me a list of complaints by actual customers, all of these "complaints" are from non customers. Ask these "complainers" for receipts of purchase.

Please just block him and continue on with the other concerns, Cain.

No chance he is your customer or a future customer and like a 90% he is cantydes.

 

[hexagonal]

Look how dinosys tried to lure me into his forums …

Dwight is his best side buddy. Until he got me banned cause I abused his bf…

This is a forum about GLP1 medications, similar peptides/meds, and the vendors that sell them.

It's not a forum about other forums about GLP1 medications, similar peptides/meds, and the vendors that sell them.

 

[brentm]

Please just block him and continue on with the other concerns, Cain.

No chance he is your customer or a future customer and like a 90% he is cantydes.

There is a thing called "potential customers".

So far many of us have overlooked issues from the past. I'm actually a customer, just not in this round.

I think you two should get a room personally.....

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

Fuck that list man...

Sling this one around instead....

r/TirzepatideHelp Vendor List

docs.google.com

This is da bomb yo! Tnx heaps man!