Nexaph testing

We know that AmoPure changed their excipients at least twice..

Can you share that information? I never saw Janoshik say anything about the excipient interacting with the GLP-1 in an unusual way. THAT would be very important and would definitely warrant investigation.
Amo also 1)told us it was happening, 2) was criticized to all hell for the ISRs, 3) They aren't actually well regarded around here anymore. I put them a hair higher than nexaph, mostly because of longevity.

Jano's comment is in the testing group. If you're a member I can show you exactly where. But that is a word for word quote. He didn't say much else other than he recommended him not use it, and it can hide other impurities.
 
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Jano's comment is in the testing group. If you're a member I can show you exactly where. But that is a word for word quote. He didn't say much else other than he recommended him not use it, and it can hide other impurities.

I am not in the testing group so I wasn't aware of this. I can understand why groups like that are invite only, but one of the downsides is that critical information like this doesn't circulate as far as it should. I have a lot of questions for Cain including:

1. What he was using before, and why he decided to switch to this excipient
2. What he did in response to Jano's feedback.
3. Whether or not customers received products made with this excipient, and if he's still using it.

Did he answer any of that?
 
I am not in the testing group so I wasn't aware of this. I can understand why groups like that are invite only, but one of the downsides is that critical information like this doesn't circulate as far as it should. I have a lot of questions for Cain including:

1. What he was using before, and why he decided to switch to this excipient
2. What he did in response to Jano's feedback.
3. Whether or not customers received products made with this excipient, and if he's still using it.

Did he answer any of that?
Cain isn't allowed there, but I'm sure he knows it was said. It was jano telling us about it. You'd have to ask Cain, I believe he's spoken about it at some point. Personally I wrote him off as an potential option last time so I'm not seeking out his side. (he also got in trouble over at tirzhelp for another thing recently too)

The downside of not being in the deeper end is it takes longer for information to float up here. But we really do try to keep people informed. If you care about verifying stuff like that and seeing it for yourself I'm happy to help you get in.
 
Cain isn't allowed there, but I'm sure he knows it was said. It was jano telling us about it. You'd have to ask Cain, I believe he's spoken about it at some point. Personally I wrote him off as an potential option last time so I'm not seeking out his side. (he also got in trouble over at tirzhelp for another thing recently too)

The downside of not being in the deeper end is it takes longer for information to float up here. But we really do try to keep people informed. If you care about verifying stuff like that and seeing it for yourself I'm happy to help you get in.

I appreciate the offer. I am ready trying to connect with someone in discord so that they can invite me to the test group, but I'll let you know if that doesn't work out.
 
I am not in the testing group so I wasn't aware of this. I can understand why groups like that are invite only, but one of the downsides is that critical information like this doesn't circulate as far as it should. I have a lot of questions for Cain including:

1. What he was using before, and why he decided to switch to this excipient
2. What he did in response to Jano's feedback.
3. Whether or not customers received products made with this excipient, and if he's still using it.

Did he answer any of that?
I can tell you the answer to #3 is yes. It was at least retatrutide, possibly other peptides but the reta is all i am certain about. i know this because baba was saying he'd do some work with jano to investigate the low purity and then reship if it didnt pan out. I asked jano about this later to see what came of it, which is the discord convo @zpped referenced. Jano said it interacted with GLP1s in unusual ways and seemed like he didnt think it was a good move to go sending that to people to use. What actions baba took after this I don't know, he has been unsurprisingly silent on the matter, probably tried to sweep it under the rug along with all the other unimpressive testing his customers keep churning out.

BUT HE TAKES CREDIT CARD!!!!!! Let's keep our priorities straight here!!!!

I’ll check w the admins at the testing server to see if they’re ok w me posting screen shots of the convo
 
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I can tell you the answer to #3 is yes. It was at least retatrutide, possibly other peptides but the reta is all i am certain about. i know this because baba was saying he'd do some work with jano to investigate the low purity and then reship if it didnt pan out. I asked jano about this later to see what came of it, which is the discord convo @zpped referenced. Jano said it interacted with GLP1s in unusual ways and seemed like he didnt think it was a good move to go sending that to people to use. What actions baba took after this I don't know, he has been unsurprisingly silent on the matter, probably tried to sweep it under the rug along with all the other unimpressive testing he keeps churning out.
I am part of a retest group on TG and contributed to the testing cost. There is a women running it that I think is a biologist and works in a lab that has the equipment to test much more than purity/mass. I don't completely understand all of the tests that she is running but we needed a dozen donor vials and the cost (with her discount) was $750. She is trying to identify the excipient used, if the reta will degrade faster than "normal" and if the product is safe to use. We should have results in the next week or so but given the tests I think we will need her interpratation of the results.
 
I know you're not a fan but this is a little much. Manufacturers do not consult us about the fillers they use, we don't ask about them, and there is no evidence that the new filler is dangerous (Janoshik recognized it). Unless we start asking everyone about their fillers as standard practice this is not something to get upset about.
Just for clarity. His follow up test said histidine was not detected. So I'm not aware that he recognized what was in it.
 
Ach, deleted just as I click the links! How am I supposed to stop saying Nexa is good to noobs if the screenshots are deleted before I can be nosy! (Mostly kidding)
 
@noteablequotable

Here is the discussion we talked about. I had to slice and dice it a little because there were multiple convos happening simultaneously and the relevant bit is between me and jano. Note that the guy who talks about heat resistance works with baba.

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Is that a fact or your intuition? I thought he said he talked to him about it. But working with him would be different.
He won’t admit it because he knows it will lead to his removal from the server. He highly values being on the server because it gives him a place to say things that he thinks make people admire his intellect. It will never be “fact” because of that. But there is every indication that it’s true, and he won’t answer simple questions about when asked directly. To clarify I don’t know if cash is exchanged, I just believe “consulting services” are being rendered
 
Cain isn't allowed there, but I'm sure he knows it was said. It was jano telling us about it. You'd have to ask Cain, I believe he's spoken about it at some point. Personally I wrote him off as an potential option last time so I'm not seeking out his side. (he also got in trouble over at tirzhelp for another thing recently too)

The downside of not being in the deeper end is it takes longer for information to float up here. But we really do try to keep people informed. If you care about verifying stuff like that and seeing it for yourself I'm happy to help you get in.
There's actually quite a bit if info about this vendor that people don't seem to be aware of here. Do you mind posting some pics of the bad crimps on that MOTS-C? @peptideusername also had some pics of caps that were completely loose, hopefully he can post those too. This is not a problem other vendors have. It's surprising to me some here still believe Nexaphs products are fine.

Regarding the tirzepatidehelp issue, Cain was caught having a company rep infiltrating their 3rd party testing to manipulate it in his favor. This is a huge problem and to his credit, Stairmaster took this very seriously and addressed the issue.
 
He won’t admit it because he knows it will lead to his removal from the server. He highly values being on the server because it gives him a place to say things that he thinks make people admire his intellect. It will never be “fact” because of that. But there is every indication that it’s true, and he won’t answer simple questions about when asked directly. To clarify I don’t know if cash is exchanged, I just believe “consulting services” are being rendered
Fair enough, just wanted to clarify. I know you have way more context than me.
 
I appreciate the offer. I am ready trying to connect with someone in discord so that they can invite me to the test group, but I'll let you know if that doesn't work out.
I'm in the telegram nexaph
I appreciate the offer. I am ready trying to connect with someone in discord so that they can invite me to the test group, but I'll let you know if that doesn't work out.
 

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