QSC is screwing around over a $135 credit!
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I didn't think he does, just that he has a boss too... And usually that boss is also the other team's boss.
highlowwegot
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I did not understand Tracy's Walmart explanation, but I do now. I don't know how their business is setup but I'm gonna call them "franchisees". You ordered from Alisa, which apparently is a different "franchise". Someone here tagged Tracy. And to be honest, I thought QSC = Tracy. He may not own the company but he is the general/sales manger. Apparently, QSC does not = Tracy. He does not have anything to do with Alisia or what ever the other name was.
But to your original point, If you sent them $135 (or had a credit left over of $135) it shouldn't matter what the bitcoin is today. Especially if the preorder is out of stock and they cannot fulfill the order.
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I didn't say they are scammers.Like I said, I've ordered for years, so I don't even remember where... But it's the right domain so same company.
Actually that email address is on the website. How are the emails from your same domain scammers?
I said there are a lot of emails circulating, everywhere including reddits, some people can get scammed from some proton mails they claim they are QSC, some chinese are using names close to QSC as well, and some QSC other sales can also sell, under different emails.
I won't be responsible, nor help anyone who purchase from another email or whatsapp, either it belongs to same domain or not.
I have stated this in meso years ago, some have learnt the hard way, so stick to contacts I post, and you'll be fine.
noteablequotable
Advanced Researcher
Same. This is also what I thought. I wonder how many issues with QSC are actually issues with someone other than Tracy...
@Qingdao Sigma, do all reps have the same policy on refunds or is it different for each person? Will Alisa also have to follow your new Bitcoin payment policy?
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Isn’t Alisa the one who sent a bunch of 4mg reta as 10mg back when reta was a brand new thing?
Glp1judd
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I think we need to talk about banning you. Simmer down why don’t cha?
LaughingDuck
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Being critical about a bad vendor now upsets the kids on here.
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Why? They have a legitimate issue. Other users need to see this. If users want to play Russian roulette to save a few dollars dealing with QSC that's fine. But the potential headache for dealing with an asshat is not worth it imo. If QSC has multiple reps they should all behave the same. This could have been a non-issue but it escalated. Tracy isn't interested in resolving this in an amicable fashion and that should be the take away.
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The same debate about qsc exists on meso around the value of harm reduction. New members will go for the vendor with the most traffic, but this vendor in particular sells unfinished oils (they need to be filtered) and most new members have no idea what that means. They don’t really have a good solution either except banning discussion about sources from most topics.
nonyabizznez
Advanced Researcher
Same here... First "Irene" then "Bella" (using the correct email address provided)
highlowwegot
New Member
No, Bella is one of tracy's assistants. As long as you start out by emailing sigma@sigmachemical.com.cn.
highlowwegot
New Member
It looks like if you dont order from tracys team, tracy wont help you with issues. If you send a order to sigma@sig...(look at Tracy's posts here for the email, don't take my or another posters word for it) it goes to tracys team. If there is a issue with his team you can email him at tracy@sigm to fix the issue.
Seems perfectly valid to have the discussion about the vendor being banned. Doesn't mean that they will be banned. I think that a user should be allowed to express themselves. Vendor doesn't seem to have a problem with it 🫤
FamousGoodkitty
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100 % this is correct. No problems until you do have a problem - and you are out hundreds - and they really don't care because there is always someone else to take the risk and take your place. Meanwhile they laugh the whole way to the bank for taking your money and no recourse for you - tough toodles is their motto.
Glp1judd
Advanced Researcher
I think if there was a shitstirring to helpful post ratio, you’d be leading the pack from the shitstirring side.
That's his rep, so no. A rep and the sales manager are two different things. He's said several times he will fix his reps mistakes if he feels they messed up.
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I don't think I've actually ever seen someone recommend qsc.
Ive seen people talk about them, mention rock bottom prices, then caveat all the things that can go wrong and have gone wrong.
Hell, there's a 30 bullet point post on this very forum that highlights what users should do to prevent issues warning everyone of the issues that may follow.
Ive seen people talk about them, mention rock bottom prices, then caveat all the things that can go wrong and have gone wrong.
Hell, there's a 30 bullet point post on this very forum that highlights what users should do to prevent issues warning everyone of the issues that may follow.
Glp1judd
Advanced Researcher
I’ve spent probably $5k with them this year.
I’d def recommend them with the caveat that they aren’t great at handholding and the ordering process is painful until you sort it out. And you need to expect delivery between 3-8 weeks. And the communication is iffy.
🤦♂️🤷🏻♂️😂
But if you like deals and aren’t high strung you can def accumulate a stash for you and the other rats very cheaply. It’s helped me get my family and friends on the tirz after being screwed over by big pharma and compounders.
And that actually brings me to the thing I like best about QSC and why I defend him/them:
When everyone else was gouging, they started being aggressive on price and have never stopped.
They have forced the entire industry to follow suit. Research Tirz cost 3-5x as much just 9-12 months ago!
I’d argue the reason why we aren’t paying $350 for a 10mg kit anymore is because Tracy changed the game.
So now, if you want to buy from someone domestic or someone with a better bedside manner you can without getting completely fleeced.
I’d def recommend them with the caveat that they aren’t great at handholding and the ordering process is painful until you sort it out. And you need to expect delivery between 3-8 weeks. And the communication is iffy.
🤦♂️🤷🏻♂️😂
But if you like deals and aren’t high strung you can def accumulate a stash for you and the other rats very cheaply. It’s helped me get my family and friends on the tirz after being screwed over by big pharma and compounders.
And that actually brings me to the thing I like best about QSC and why I defend him/them:
When everyone else was gouging, they started being aggressive on price and have never stopped.
They have forced the entire industry to follow suit. Research Tirz cost 3-5x as much just 9-12 months ago!
I’d argue the reason why we aren’t paying $350 for a 10mg kit anymore is because Tracy changed the game.
So now, if you want to buy from someone domestic or someone with a better bedside manner you can without getting completely fleeced.
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To be fair you get the same service from anyone at qsc too. None 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I recommended them to someone on reddit lol. But be had a good experience and got the brown tirz promo in two weeks.
That's great and all but can you really credit Tracy for the pricing? I think it's more likely that the mysterious corporate makes that decision and passes it to their sales people.
I was getting the same pricing from "my" sales team too. 🤷♂️
So credit to QSC corporate for pricing but none at all for managing their sales teams performance?
If there was a time I was tempted to order anything from you, I'm certainly over it now! One less potential customer you have to worry about "wasting your time."
99.9% of the time someone's bad experience with QSC can be traced to an expectation that came from within the customer, not an expectation that Tracy set and then failed to meet. Tracy isnt promising consistent cap colors, quick tracking, payment confirmation, service with a smile, etc etc, yet people are coming out of the woodwork to gripe about their failure to deliver these things. If you need any of those things, no amount of complaining is going to get QSC to provide them. In exchange, you get the best prices and consistently acceptable quality.
Glp1judd
Advanced Researcher
I can’t say. I’m not privy to your info or your “source”.
I know that the publicly available pricing from every vendor was directly influenced by his aggressive strategy and as a result glp1 pricing has dropped across the board probably 60-80% this year.
Like I said, is it his aggressive strategy or just what corporate tells him to sell? I got the same deals from my sales team which is also QSC but it's not his sales team.
Back to the Walmart analogy, corporate sets all the black Friday sales. You can't credit an individual store for the deal you got.
Glp1judd
Advanced Researcher
Well considering these other people are either invisible or being gatekept, I’m crediting him. He’s the one driving the bus in a public way.
X1000.
They're trying to fix some of the things to limit rep time spent dealing with the emails/messages (stoppers, sending out tracking, response times, etc.).
Lol that would fall into the second part of my comment. Almost all people who use them try to set expectations when they talk about them. Caveats galore. Because we know the vast majority are expecting their experience to be like Amazon half the time.
Qsc is my preferred vendor. They're good at what they do. But this shit ain't amazon. Stick with the more expensive stuff if that is stuff you prioritize in your drug dealing experience.
When I see issues, there always seems to be something going on, on the customer side. Didn't send tracking, paid the wrong amount, reached out to early for tracking, didn't video their opening, reached out to the wrong contact, their wise banking app won't release their money, so on and so forth. Then there's some other things that pop up, but they've been caveated to hell in the past like purity gurantees and crashed gear.
highlowwegot
New Member
Where does "your" sales team post their promos? I am just wondering if there is a different board or discord or something that I am having fomo about. Or are you seeing the promos tracy posts and just using your old contacts?
I think you missed that the email address I was using is right on their contact me on the main qsc website. And I know that the pre order that I had an issue with was also on his price list because I've seen other people with my same out of stock issue as well. Just not this issue with shorting my credit.
There's no gatekeeping, people who have used QSC before know about the Alisa sales team too.
The issue is there's no accountability when there's an issue. My orders went fine for years since 2021 and I've probably spent plenty more than you but if there's such an issue over $135 then I'm not comfortable risking a larger order.
Follow the Qindgao Sigma Chemical😊 channel on WhatsApp: https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029Vaqc8hREawdlb1Tpwg10
Here's one place...
I look at both and had no idea that there were different sales teams. The deals are the same.
Like most normal people, I thought it was all one company.
geoguy78
Advanced Researcher
You're not wrong. QSC started a race to the bottom for prices. Their customer service blows, but like them or not, they are big enough that they can move the entire market. Other vendors have had to quickly drop prices. ASC was posting "deals" just a month or so ago that were so far above QSC's that people were literally calling Tuk out on what a joke the "deals" were. And guess what? Tuk is now offering Tirz at a price comparable to QSC.
Tracy and Alisa’s relationship to QSC more closely resembles that of a real estate agent (independent contractor) to their broker. Tracy has his customers and Alisa has hers. Alisa’s problems are hers, not Tracy’s.
I’ve had great success with Tracy, did plenty of reading about pitfalls, kept orders simple, minimized my risk in advance as much as possible. It’s not for everybody.
With that said, LLY ex-dividend date is 12/10 so I’ll be putting in another order.
I’ve had great success with Tracy, did plenty of reading about pitfalls, kept orders simple, minimized my risk in advance as much as possible. It’s not for everybody.
With that said, LLY ex-dividend date is 12/10 so I’ll be putting in another order.
I get that now but there's no where that actually discusses how that structure works. With real estate we understand there are individual agents and if there's an issue you can still contact the actual broker. That's what they're there for, but not in this case. If one sales team wants to screw you then you're screwed. How does that look for the main company?
noteablequotable
Advanced Researcher
Agree that this is actually really important. I'll wait for @Qingdao Sigma confirmation, but based on what's been said so far it seems like each sales team sets their own policy, so there is a meaningful difference between ordering from Tracy@ QSC and ordering from someone else also affiliated with the company. If you want the level of support Tracy provides, you need to buy from him.
I didn't know that, and I'm not sure anyone else did before it was mentioned today, but we should probably keep that in mind when evaluating this vendor.
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I have recourse when engaging in legal activities on my soil, not so much when purchasing “illegal-to-import” peps from a foreign “entity”. My relationship is with Tracy; I really don’t care who he works for. I don’t buy more than I’m willing to lose.
geoguy78
Advanced Researcher
I don't know if "Tracy's level of support" is much of a selling point for using his team 🤣
noteablequotable
Advanced Researcher
Alisa did exist before Tracy and still does. i always thought she was gone.
Went back and looked through old posts, and found one from the owner of this forum:
"Alisa apparently still operates as a completely different sales channel, but i think the majority of experience buyers know to avoid her as she is not as quite on the same level as Tracy"
I also remember a shannon. I also remember people claiming Alisa was multiple people. I also remember Tracy....ummm...questioning Alisa and her team's intelligence. I for some reason thought alisa disappeared around the aod underfill debacle in 2023.
Went back and looked through old posts, and found one from the owner of this forum:
"Alisa apparently still operates as a completely different sales channel, but i think the majority of experience buyers know to avoid her as she is not as quite on the same level as Tracy"
I also remember a shannon. I also remember people claiming Alisa was multiple people. I also remember Tracy....ummm...questioning Alisa and her team's intelligence. I for some reason thought alisa disappeared around the aod underfill debacle in 2023.
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raw_oyster_eater
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91 replies and 1000 views about $40?
chmuse
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I'm enjoying seeing the mythical Tracy tongue lashing
Well, it's 135 for me, I haven't heard back from "my" sales rep... But it could easily be $1035 next time for someone else.
At least now we know that QSC has multiple reps, and even those reps can be different people. AND those reps don't work with each other.
I actually didn't think Alisa was ever one person and I didn't care as long as I got the order.
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Same! She’s just as rude!! I also have an issue with a Black Friday order and her response as blown me away. Unprofessional and rude.. they sent my package to the wrong address even after I corrected them in the email they sent me to “verify” everything was correct. Now she tells me that it is not their policy to confirm info yet the first sentence in her email is “please confirm “
keangkong
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I don't understand a WhatsApp link. It seems I have to use browser based Whatsapp to access the channel.
Not sure about why it's not working but it opens on my phone.
It's exactly the same as on these forums but the number is different and the email. 🤷♂️
raw_oyster_eater
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i thought they were to give you a 95 dollar credit. i've never heard of anyone losing their money on the whole order.
zpped
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So you've been ordering from QSC for years while people went around yelling from the mountain tops about how terrible their service is and how often people walked away feeling screwed over?
So you just thought, fuck it, it's not happening to me.... until it did.
I make no secret my dislike of QSC. I'm just sick of people coming here to complain about them.
