ASC banned from the StairwayToGray site

jynxie said:
But Somatotropin IS AOD. Really underfilled at what it tested, but it's AOD, none the less.
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Somatotropin is HGH. AOD is a fragment of HGH that is supposed to just have the lipolytic effect without impacting IGF-1.

If you take somatotropin at above replacement levels, you'll get additional lipolysis and increase your IGF-1, as well as potentially impacting your glucose, insulin, etc.

If you take AOD you'll... not get lipolysis or IGF-1 increases.
 
hexagonal said:
Somatotropin is HGH. AOD is a fragment of HGH that is supposed to just have the lipolytic effect without impacting IGF-1.

If you take somatotropin at above replacement levels, you'll get additional lipolysis and increase your IGF-1, as well as potentially impacting your glucose, insulin, etc.

If you take AOD you'll... not get lipolysis or IGF-1 increases.
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Someone should resell all the empty pep going around as AOD. same effects.
 
Nikki nik said:
Water and red dye for the LIPO
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Are you sure about this? The ASC LIPO had a red dye in it that was not disclosed in the ingredient list, (like, peony root extract?) but it was not simply red dye and water as far as I'm aware - that was a different company. Not sure what the outcome of the owners of this product was.
Then, folks being told their product was buffered when it was not - refunded.
AOD no bueno - refunded.
Underfilled reta20 - partially refunded or fully on destruction video.
But everything else being thrown around is all feels or mixing up of vendors at this point until test results come in.
Unless I'm missing something? I'm trying hard to keep track because most of my stash is ASC... whomp, whomp.
 
cldfront said:
Are you sure about this? The ASC LIPO had a red dye in it that was not disclosed in the ingredient list, (like, peony root extract?) but it was not simply red dye and water as far as I'm aware - that was a different company. Not sure what the outcome of the owners of this product was.
Then, folks being told their product was buffered when it was not - refunded.
AOD no bueno - refunded.
Underfilled reta20 - partially refunded or fully on destruction video.
But everything else being thrown around is all feels or mixing up of vendors at this point until test results come in.
Unless I'm missing something? I'm trying hard to keep track because most of my stash is ASC... whomp, whomp.
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It does seem that the GLP-1 is very quick to turn against vendors previously held in high regard.
 
cldfront said:
Are you sure about this? The ASC LIPO had a red dye in it that was not disclosed in the ingredient list, (like, peony root extract?) but it was not simply red dye and water as far as I'm aware - that was a different company. Not sure what the outcome of the owners of this product was.
Then, folks being told their product was buffered when it was not - refunded.
AOD no bueno - refunded.
Underfilled reta20 - partially refunded or fully on destruction video.
But everything else being thrown around is all feels or mixing up of vendors at this point until test results come in.
Unless I'm missing something? I'm trying hard to keep track because most of my stash is ASC... whomp, whomp.
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Thank you....my apologies. So much going on in gray I'm all over the place.
 
zpped said:
I think the bigger problem is they are quicker to hold a vendor in high regard... the majority of people couldn't tell you the name of 3 vendors that have been in business for more than 1 year.
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This is exactly it. A vendor with a sketchy history (at best) spanning about a month can drum up such regard and loyalty that enduring rifts in the community are formed over it. Boggles the mind. I guess if you have only been around for a month and a half, that one month in business is more than half of your peptide experience. Folks who have been around for longer than that just have more perspective I suppose.
 
Nikki nik said:
Excuse me tci
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No worries, I'm just trying to keep a running list of true story bummer stuff so I can make good choices about the products I have.

exploitedworkerbee said:
This is exactly it. A vendor with a sketchy history (at best) spanning about a month can drum up such regard and loyalty that enduring rifts in the community are formed over it. Boggles the mind. I guess if you have only been around for a month and a half, that one month in business is more than half of your peptide experience. Folks who have been around for longer than that just have more perspective I suppose.
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I think there's something about the emotional aspect of finally FINALLY being able to fix a weight problem that has been your New Year's resolution for 15+ years that facilitates forming of attachments to people who allow you to afford this magical medication long-term. Like, I can see how this will work. The fight is over AND it's gone from $1000/month to something like under twenty bucks. My mind wants to say I LOVE TUK. It's good for me to recognize that, and fwiw, it took a minute, and I pride myself on being willing to question my thoughts more than the average bear.
 
cldfront said:
No worries, I'm just trying to keep a running list of true story bummer stuff so I can make good choices about the products I have.


I think there's something about the emotional aspect of finally FINALLY being able to fix a weight problem that has been your New Year's resolution for 15+ years that facilitates forming of attachments to people who allow you to afford this magical medication long-term. Like, I can see how this will work. The fight is over AND it's gone from $1000/month to something like under twenty bucks. My mind wants to say I LOVE TUK. It's good for me to recognize that, and fwiw, it took a minute, and I pride myself on being willing to question my thoughts more than the average bear.
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When I was first looking into non-pharma I did one of those farce medspa “consultations” to gain access to $140/mg sema. I was SO afraid they wouldn’t accept me into their “practice,” not realizing it was all just marketing gimmicks, and was super grateful when they allowed me to purchase from them.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
This is exactly it. A vendor with a sketchy history (at best) spanning about a month can drum up such regard and loyalty that enduring rifts in the community are formed over it. Boggles the mind. I guess if you have only been around for a month and a half, that one month in business is more than half of your peptide experience. Folks who have been around for longer than that just have more perspective I suppose.
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How long have most companies selling GLP-1 drugs been around? Eli Lilly was founded in 1876. They don't sell retatrutide and probably won't in the next year and a half. Are there any grey companies selling GLP-1 drugs where the company has been around for at least three years? I believe Tracy was selling for QSC for longer than three years. I'm not asking this to be difficult: If someone can tell me that a particular vendor is more trustworthy than others, I'm willing to listen. Any time I pay, I'm placing some trust in a vendor.
 
sad to see ASC problems also. Was my one vendor I had zero concerns with. Peptides world really is the Wild West.

Any hoo, any chance someone can DM me invite to StairwayToGray please ??? 😁

Allways looking to improve quality of my telegram portfolio 💼
 
Fredo frog said:
sad to see ASC problems also. Was my one vendor I had zero concerns with. Peptides world really is the Wild West.

Any hoo, any chance someone can DM me invite to StairwayToGray please ??? 😁

Allways looking to improve quality of my telegram portfolio 💼
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Could someone also send me an invite to StairwayToGeay please?
 
mistyhughes88 said:
Could someone also send me an invite to StairwayToGeay please?
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Below are multiple invites. I don't know why they sent multiple, but here they are. It's not a particularly exclusive club; they're willing to have me as a member.

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Fredo frog said:
sad to see ASC problems also. Was my one vendor I had zero concerns with. Peptides world really is the Wild West.

Any hoo, any chance someone can DM me invite to StairwayToGray please ??? 😁

Allways looking to improve quality of my telegram portfolio 💼
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I'm not dm'ing you. Here is the link: https://t.me/+QKW1PJdg8lRmOWRh
 
Thanks
Fredo frog said:
sad to see ASC problems also. Was my one vendor I had zero concerns with. Peptides world really is the Wild West.

Any hoo, any chance someone can DM me invite to StairwayToGray please ??? 😁

Allways looking to improve quality of my telegram portfolio 💼
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keangkong said:
StairMaster1 has banned ASC from the StairwayToGray Telegram site.

Stairmaster1 wrote:

We have banned ASC for

1. Not reshipping/ refunding a customer whose test showed an incorrect product was sent - member independently tested AOD at Janoshik and it wasn't AOD.

2. Not reshipping/refunding customers with LipoC pH issues (extremely acidic).

There are also reports of cloudy Reta, gelling NAO, and other product mishaps.

We reached out to ASC prior to banning to try to resolve the issues above, but unfortunately that didn't happen.

There's no point in having a purity guarantee if a vendor sends the wrong thing or a dangerous thing.

Every vendor makes mistakes, but how a vendor deals with them matters.

Vendors should reship or refund incorrect product.
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How do get an invite to StairwayToGray
 
keangkong said:
I don't believe they're all under the same management. They may well be, but I haven't seen anything so far suggesting that. It does seem that many of them are getting the peptides from the same place.
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Krysis from the Swiss did an incredible job getting people to send in photos of the labels from the box that their CN orders came in.

It became appalling clear that LOTS of vendors are using the same stock. A zero-peptide batch had a mishap when printing labels and then multiple vendors were sending out the product all with the same printing glitch. Pretty scary stuff.
 
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