For those of you who were referred here via a redditor....

Derby said:
This forum is not US-based. We could email the URL directly to Eli Lilly's attorneys and nothing would happen.
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Broadcasting a space to a group of people who wouldn't have found it on their own brings down the overall quality of that space. Does everyone just want this place to be the next Reddit? Because the tone of discourse on this is pointing to that direction. One of the good things about this place is that is wasn't Reddit....but by advertising it there, everyone's just going to take their same asshole attitudes with them and turn this forum into a place where thoughtful discussion no longer occurs and it's just one post after the other of "TELL ME IF I SHOULD USE QSC?".
 
I don't think big pharma spies are the issue. It's more that a larger customer base for the grey market gives it more attention which can lead to more regulation.

Also I posted this in another thread, but there was a major manufacturer in China that was shut down by the CCP a few months ago for attracting attention from selling directly to customers in the west. And their main sales rep was allegedly taken to a re-education camp or executed. The thinking is that keeping things on the down low will prevent this type of thing from happening again.
 
Chizikitide-1977 said:
I don't think big pharma spies are the issue. It's more that a larger customer base for the grey market gives it more attention which can lead to more regulation.

Also I posted this in another thread, but there was a major manufacturer in China that was shut down by the CCP a few months ago for attracting attention from selling directly to customers in the west. And their main sales rep was allegedly taken to a re-education camp or executed. The thinking is that keeping things on the down low will prevent this type of thing from happening again.
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Thank you for your intelligent input and I agree with you. I still don’t trust every user that shows up, but yes keeping attention to a minimum is protecting the community.
 
Chizikitide-1977 said:
I don't think big pharma spies are the issue. It's more that a larger customer base for the grey market gives it more attention which can lead to more regulation.

Also I posted this in another thread, but there was a major manufacturer in China that was shut down by the CCP a few months ago for attracting attention from selling directly to customers in the west. And their main sales rep was allegedly taken to a re-education camp or executed. The thinking is that keeping things on the down low will prevent this type of thing from happening again.
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If they were imprisoned or executed, they were doing a LOT more than just selling tirzepatide to Americans. The Chinese government reserves that kind of punishment, especially execution, for high level corruption. This person would have been involved in something like major bribery, large scale theft, endangering the public safety, etc...
 
Most of the Chinese vendors that sell glp1s also sell several controlled substances. Also the CCP is notoriously inconsistent. It's not exactly the type of justice we get in the west. People are "disappeared" for lots of things in China.

The story is all over the place. Search for "peter" here, on meso, I've even seen it on Reddit.
 
Chizikitide-1977 said:
Most of the Chinese vendors that sell glp1s also sell several controlled substances. Also the CCP is notoriously inconsistent. It's not exactly the type of justice we get in the west. People are "disappeared" for lots of things in China.

The story is all over the place. Search for "peter" here, on meso, I've even seen it on Reddit.
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That's what I was kind of getting at..... this isn't a GLP-1 problem, more like a smuggling fentanyl problem, or selling illegal drugs to the Chinese people type of problem
 
Stairmaster1 said:
I’m doing my best to help! Hard to thread the needle on helping and getting banned. The safety and sterility post got deleted by reddit… they don’t want people to be safe. They want it to be as hard as possible to appease Eli Lilly’s advertising dollars and lawyers.
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We miss you! We had an idiot yesterday trying to sell a sublingual scammy version, and we all fired him. Boo has been nice to let us know you've been kicked out temporarily.
 
If the debate is over whether lots of attention and failure to be discrete leads to unwanted attention, there isn’t a question: it absolutely does. That doesn’t have to mean FBI raids. It can mean stuff like too many people using a specific bac water provider who gets spooked and starts requiring evidence of a medical license, for example. Or too many people piling onto a popular vendor who grows too big to deliver continued good service. Loose lips sink ships. 🤫

If the debate is over whether you need to question the motives of internet strangers in the context of one of the biggest cash grabs of our lifetime, the answer is also yes, and you’re naive if you think otherwise.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
If the debate is over whether lots of attention and failure to be discrete leads to unwanted attention, there isn’t a question: it absolutely does. That doesn’t have to mean FBI raids. It can mean stuff like too many people using a specific bac water provider who gets spooked and starts requiring evidence of a medical license, for example. Or too many people piling onto a popular vendor who grows too big to deliver continued good service. Loose lips sink ships. 🤫

If the debate is over whether you need to question the motives of internet strangers in the context of one of the biggest cash grabs of our lifetime, the answer is also yes, and you’re naive if you think otherwise.
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Well said.
 
Anyone here part of RepLadies? This kind of reminds me of what happened in 2022. Too much exposure/growth lead to an overzealous NYT reporter writing an article and getting a bunch of sellers raided/shut down. The community had to go dark for a while. It’s just designer handbags so not as big of a deal as losing access to medication obvi lol but there are a lot of parallels with the China factories and seller personalities/competition etc.
 
delululemonade said:
Anyone here part of RepLadies? This kind of reminds me of what happened in 2022. Too much exposure/growth lead to an overzealous NYT reporter writing an article and getting a bunch of sellers raided/shut down. The community had to go dark for a while. It’s just designer handbags so not as big of a deal as losing access to medication obvi lol but there are a lot of parallels with the China factories and seller personalities/competition etc.
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Ayyyy I love finding crossovers in the wild. Those were the days, splintered Discord servers don't hit the same.
 
ChinchillaPoop024 said:
Ayyyy I love finding crossovers in the wild. Those were the days, splintered Discord servers don't hit the same.
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Yeah but it’s safer this way. The discretion here especially makes sense to me after seeing that all implode so fast. More at stake for both buyers and sellers. It wasn’t even a bad actor that took it all down it was just a reporter who stumbled onto an interesting story trying to buy one herself haha. The community recovered but I think some sellers/factories were permanently shut down.
 
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exploitedworkerbee said:
If the debate is over whether lots of attention and failure to be discrete leads to unwanted attention, there isn’t a question: it absolutely does. That doesn’t have to mean FBI raids. It can mean stuff like too many people using a specific bac water provider who gets spooked and starts requiring evidence of a medical license, for example. Or too many people piling onto a popular vendor who grows too big to deliver continued good service. Loose lips sink ships. 🤫

If the debate is over whether you need to question the motives of internet strangers in the context of one of the biggest cash grabs of our lifetime, the answer is also yes, and you’re naive if you think otherwise.
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As an admin, do you want me to pull all references to your site?
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
to the best of my knowledge there isn’t any prohibition on sharing the link to this site @ZippityDooDah can correct me if I’m wrong. Obviously if you’re in a group full of dipshits maybe you keep it to yourself though.
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Needs to be more specific. Until I hear you want it off I am keeping it up. Tracy is mean to people too, but still helpful.
 
Could I make a suggestion @Stairmaster1?
The tirzepatidehelp subreddit is obviously your subreddit and therefore this is obviously your decision. However it may be beneficial to add to your guide series post for external resources explaining the importance of discretion and include a few examples of how things can go awry when word gets out too quickly.

This should at least help educate the newbies that come this way and hopefully cut down on the number of people calling us morons over here less than a week in.

Just a thought.
 
delululemonade said:
Yeah but it’s safer this way. I mean it would have been ridiculous to be tooooo smoke and mirrors about handbags lol but the discretion here makes sense to me after seeing that all implode so fast. More at stake for both buyers and sellers here. It wasn’t even a bad actor that took it all down it was just a reporter who stumbled onto an interesting story trying to buy one herself haha. The community recovered but I think some sellers/factories were permanently shut down.
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True true. RIP 🍊 🛋

It's much harder to discern reliable information now, for both reps and peps. First comes Reddit; then Facebook "technology anxious" (actual phrase used by someone not understanding forwarding) folks; and god forbid anything blows up on TikTok.
 
Chizikitide-1977 said:
Could I make a suggestion @Stairmaster1?
The tirzepatidehelp subreddit is obviously your subreddit and therefore this is obviously your decision. However it may be beneficial to add to your guide series post for external resources explaining the importance of discretion and include a few examples of how things can go awry when word gets out too quickly.

This should at least help educate the newbies that come this way and hopefully cut down on the number of people calling us morons over here less than a week in.

Just a thought.
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The irony of advocating for discretion while blasting something on Reddit.

Anyway, it's too late. That sub gained over 2k people in a week. Damage is already done.
 
MiniatureSnail said:
The irony of advocating for discretion while blasting something on Reddit.

Anyway, it's too late. That sub gained over 2k people in a week. Damage is already done.
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Well when I’m unbanned from reddit in 2 days I can wipe clean any reference to this site and auto ban anyone referencing glp1forum and alternate spellings. Can also take other measures to make sure no one comes here.

Happy to respect the mods decisions, it’s just not clear other than some snark.
 
Stairmaster1 said:
Well when I’m unbanned from reddit in 2 days I can wipe clean any reference to this site and auto ban anyone referencing glp1forum and alternate spellings. Can also take other measures to make sure no one comes here.

Happy to respect the mods decisions, it’s just not clear other than some snark.
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here. It's not like you can't see anything here without an account. I lurked for quite a while before signing up. This forum is an open book and it's a top result from Google if you just search for glp-1 forums. The founder also has a subreddit named after the forum, with a link to the forum in the sidebar, and a link to the forum in his reddit signature. GLP-1 forum is not like the other site (fight club) where:

1. You can't access any content without an account
2. It's specifically against the rules to share the link publicly
3. They have a bunch of internal controls on what members can see certain sections like sources

I get that some people here are concerned that they'll lose their sources. But bullying you into taking down reference to this forum isn't going to do a thing to prevent it. The masses will find this forum regardless, this place is the low hanging fruit. Meso forum has a ton of source info as well. I suppose if you really want to be snarky, just change the link in your sub to link to Zippity's r/glp1forum subreddit. Problem solved.
 
geoguy78 said:
I'm going to play devil's advocate here. It's not like you can't see anything here without an account. I lurked for quite a while before signing up. This forum is an open book and it's a top result from Google if you just search for glp-1 forums. The founder also has a subreddit named after the forum, with a link to the forum in the sidebar, and a link to the forum in his reddit signature. GLP-1 forum is not like the other site (fight club) where:

1. You can't access any content without an account
2. It's specifically against the rules to share the link publicly
3. They have a bunch of internal controls on what members can see certain sections like sources

I get that some people here are concerned that they'll lose their sources. But bullying you into taking down reference to this forum isn't going to do a thing to prevent it. The masses will find this forum regardless, this place is the low hanging fruit. Meso forum has a ton of source info as well. I suppose if you really want to be snarky, just change the link in your sub to link to Zippity's r/glp1forum subreddit. Problem solved.
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Great idea. I’ll change to zippity’s subreddit which should put this conversation to bed.
 
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