GYC shipping vials with zero peptides detected

[GtownBrown]

Yeah—this is all bad. I have two kits of the fake stuff (r10 and t30) that’s not even on their list. That means that multiple companies were hit. If you want to know more, join The Swiss on Discord, where they are tracking all this.

 

[scarywood75]

Yeah—this is all bad. I have two kits of the fake stuff (r10 and t30) that’s not even on their list. That means that multiple companies were hit. If you want to know more, join The Swiss on Discord, where they are tracking all this.

Exactly, it's happening to multiple vendors across multiple types of peptide.

They arrested the guy behind this apparently but we still don't know why it was done.

What we do know is vendors got scammed, I mean GYC paid for that test that showed 0 peptides, if they knew they wouldn't have done that and they also have tested the product themselves before.

 

[peptidy]

Yeah—this is all bad. I have two kits of the fake stuff (r10 and t30) that’s not even on their list. That means that multiple companies were hit. If you want to know more, join The Swiss on Discord, where they are tracking all this.

Do you have a link?

 

[GtownBrown]

Do you have a link?

I don’t have invite privileges.

 

[scarywood75]

I don’t have invite privileges.

Shoot a message to @krysia0430 over on Telegram or Discord for an invite link.

 

[Nikki nik]

Yeah—this is all bad. I have two kits of the fake stuff (r10 and t30) that’s not even on their list. That means that multiple companies were hit. If you want to know more, join The Swiss on Discord, where they are tracking all this.

Ok I'm in there. Going over

 

[Peevee]

This is a real drag. I have so many kits from so many different vendors I don’t remember what’s what

 

[GimmeABreak]

I’m sure they did it to make money reselling the real stuff elsewhere and not necessarily to defame GYC.

I still don't buy it. The difference in creating zero peptide lyophilized powder and the real thing is the cost of the raws, which is likely not more than 25% of the manufacturing/finishing costs. The FF would need to know the cap colors in advance or take the time to recap all of the vials that they had produced. It just seems like a lot of work to save a few bucks and risk burning your relationship with your customer. It would be easier and more sustainable to just have their own legitimate batches produced to sell. I think it is more likely that a raw producer provided bunk raws and GYC didn't test before or after manufacture.

We will probably never find out the true story or whether this was intentional or accidental.

 

[GtownBrown]

Ok I'm in there. Going over

It’s called “Case of the Missing Peptide”

 

[GtownBrown]

I still don't buy it. The difference in creating zero peptide lyophilized powder and the real thing is the cost of the raws, which is likely not more than 25% of the manufacturing/finishing costs. The FF would need to know the cap colors in advance or take the time to recap all of the vials that they had produced. It just seems like a lot of work to save a few bucks and risk burning your relationship with your customer. It would be easier and more sustainable to just have their own legitimate batches produced to sell. I think it is more likely that a raw producer provided bunk raws and GYC didn't test before or after manufacture.

We will probably never find out the true story or whether this was intentional or accidental.

The reason that theory doesn’t pan out is that all the bad kits have the same label, no matter which vendor they came from.

 

[cta7978]

It’s called “Case of the Missing Peptide”

Like an updated Hardy Boys mystery

 

[cta7978]

Like an updated Hardy Boys mystery

Or a case for the Pink Panther

 

[GimmeABreak]

The reason that theory doesn’t pan out is that all the bad kits have the same label, no matter which vendor they came from.

You know, I read through Krysia's investigative work on the Swiss and didn't catch that. This kinda blows my "bad raws" theory to hell. I'm going to back and read Krysia's write-up again.

 

[GtownBrown]

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You know, I read through Krysia's investigative work on the Swiss and didn't catch that. This kinda blows my "bad raws" theory to hell. I'm going to back and read Krysia's write-up again.

 

[GtownBrown]

The whole thing got discovered because of the labels. She made another thread of label pics, asking everyone to upload a label and which vendor/buy it came from. I figured it out myself when Bucky posted a pic of his bad Reta and it looked like an order I had just gotten from a different source. So I posted mine and it just carried on from there in multiple discord/telegram/facebook locations. Krysia is the one who started investigating the source of the scam and compiling everything into one thread.

 

[noggin]

I think it is a little unbelievable that a FF had the exact cap colors and went through the process of lyophilizing mannitol with no peptides included just to defame GYC. More likely the raws were bunk or the finisher forgot to put them in the mix.

Is it possible this is corporate espionage from the flower company?

No of course they wouldn't order vials with pure mannitol and replace those out. If the freight forwarder story is true (which I'm hesitant to believe) then there's probably some random ass cheap peptide like AOD or DSIP in there. They probably switched it out for a cheaper peptide and kept the expensive tirz. Although the cap colors matching makes me skeptical that this is anyone's deliberate act rather than a GYC fuckup

 

[chmuse]

Y'all are really gonna make me cave and create a pep discord

 

[GtownBrown]

No of course they wouldn't order vials with pure mannitol and replace those out. If the freight forwarder story is true (which I'm hesitant to believe) then there's probably some random ass cheap peptide like AOD or DSIP in there. They probably switched it out for a cheaper peptide and kept the expensive tirz. Although the cap colors matching makes me skeptical that this is anyone's deliberate act rather than a GYC fuckup

It’s not just GYC.

 

[noggin]

They have to order a 1000 vials (maybe more) in the right cap colors and have enough advance notice of the cap colors to do it. Open each box and replace the vials? It just seems a little far fetched to me. The more likely scenario is one of their raw providers but its odd that it is over multiple peps.

I'm telling you this stinks of EL trying to muck with the gray market. Pay the right people and it wouldn't be that hard.

That just seems so far fetched that a company raking in billions upon billions is going to go operation bravo on some underground labs to try and maybe dissuade people from using them over a couple million dollars a year at best. Their lawyers make that much in a month. They'll definitely go after it through all legal avenues possible but if they're gonna play dirty they'd probably just knock off tracy not pull some elaborate oceans 11 stunt.

 

[noggin]

It’s not just GYC.

Which other vendors had vials test as nothing? Are you referring to the SRY screwup where they accidentally sent Reta instead of tirz?