MiniatureSnail
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Maybe something you stopped taking was helping with inflammation/water weight?
I'm going to shoot for losing 100 pounds in 6 months
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Not sure what you've continued versus paused these days, but anything that is driving GH release is likely to cause water retention
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
bingo.
I don't feel worth a damn on any of this stuff. HGH, HGC, TEST-C, Have done healthy dose of all.
5iu day HGH
3000iu HCG this morning
500mg test-c a few days ago
@raw_oyster_eater I didn't follow the thread totally. can you share what you take and how much you loose per week? just interested
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
i think taking the above has totally destroyed my weight loss efforts. probably tesamorelin too. I noticed a weight loss slow down when i started the tesa.
then when i took the above, started gaining a pound a day and don't know where it's going to stop. I've stopped everything for a while to let my system clear out.
I'm playing with the fat melting injections now.
there are 3 categories
1. DCA deoxycholic acid
2. PPC PHOSPHATIDYLCHOLINE
3. Lemon bottle pineapple enzyme
the PPC based Lipo Lab seems to be working the best and its less painful and causes less swelling. Its also one of the cheapest. i found it for $100 for 10 10ml vials. I put that in the left side and DCA based products in the right side and now i'm noticeably imbalanced with the right side having substantially more fat, unless it's just long-term swelling. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
When you say 5IU hgh, was that once daily, and how many mg? There tends to be some confusion on the conversion from mg to IU
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
it was listed in the price sheet as 24iu per vial kit of 10. that's all i know. 5 doses total.
5000iu HCG in a weeks' time and 2 shots totaling 500mg TEST-c. That's it. Now I'm in some sort of runaway weight gain.
OK i got all this stuff in and was overly excited to try it all. That was a serious f-up. I get it. But i'm going to have to hear it from the den mothers anyway. They're already starting in on me.
When is this weight gain going to reverse. I've been at a calorie deficit the whole time. Maybe i was getting severely dehydrated and thought it was fat loss? I'm waiting to hit an equilibrium and get on track again.
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raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
no shit. help me get rid of the pregnant looking stomach!
I mean, i'm not even glowing.😡
214 to 221 in a week.
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I can almost guarantee that the rapid swings is water weight.
And 500mg test is not a low dosage tbh, it's the starting cycle for muscle building - And by no means an insignificant dose. And it's probably 3-5x higher than what you would want to take unless you are hitting the gym 5x a week.
Most likely it will take some time for the water retention to normalize, you could consider taking some AI until the test has left your system.
The hgh half life is very short, so that shouldn't really bother you for long.
Next time you play with steroids, opt for propionate 😉 The shorter half life makes it aromatase less, and it also leaves the system faster if you have any unwanted side effects.
If you really want to burn fat, start going for morning walks when you wake up fasted. Walk at a moderate to slow tempo for an hour or two
so oyster, how is it going?
After little bit higher dose of test + HCG + whatnot im sure your weight didn't go down, there must be some water gain and maybe even little bit of muscle gain
but how was the feeling for the last week or so with increased levels of T?
After little bit higher dose of test + HCG + whatnot im sure your weight didn't go down, there must be some water gain and maybe even little bit of muscle gain
but how was the feeling for the last week or so with increased levels of T?
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
i gained 7 pounds in a week. Not impressed with the feeling the test-c gives me, really nothing. That makes me think my natural test levels were fine.
The HGH stopped my tooth that was bothering me, i think? I don't know about the HCG. It's a pregnancy hormone. I guess it made me look pregnant?
back on the tesa and cagri, stopped everything else. I think release of my natural HGH makes me feel better.
gaining the 7 pounds makes it really hard to make the goal by the end of the year, so i think i'm not going to push to achieve that.
i look fine except for the large stomach and that's not even bad. It's the pouch of fat right below the belly button that's always there to some extent. I was watching old sex tapes i made with the wife when i was something like 180 ish and it was there. Everything will be concentrated on that stubborn fat area.
crunches
drying out
fat melting injections, but they contribute to the swelling
tesa for the deep stomach fat
cagri to keep appetite under control
all subjective stuff.
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You should stop to mix everything randomly together and just using it for a week.
Stick with one good planned stack for at least 6 weeks
don't worry about water, it will go away as fast as it came and in the end im sure your body composition will look much better. Anyway good to hear you are still going strong! 😉
yeah his time frame is really too short to really see any significant results
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
OK, so i'm concentrating on these fat "melting/dissolving" injections.
I ordered several to try and have gone thru it all except for the Chinese lemon bottle. About 25 10ml bottles total.
Chinese knockoff lemon bottle
Lemon Bottle
Neobella
Lipo Lab
MCCM
Skinderma
Desobody
I tried as much as possible to put different ones in different areas to isolate on the different effects.
Chinese lemon bottle - one 10ml bottle gave me a gout flare up. Put using the rest of the 10 bottles on hold. $12/bottle
Lemon Bottle - very expensive. I paid $50 for 1 10ml bottle. not worth it in my opinion $50/bottle
Neobella - very mild did not notice very much effect other than some swelling $30/bottle
Lipo Lab - medium mild, does not cause much swelling, but area i used it on has reduced to the point that my lower stomach is very noticeably lop sided. I ordered 2 more boxes of this. 20 vials for $200 $10/bottle
MCCM- a spanish company. It's supposed to have 10% DCA it stings going in. Causes a lot of swelling. $12/bottle
Skinderma - this could be the exact same thing. It's very similar to MCCM sold by the same company. $12/bottle
Desobody - i'm not sure whats in this but it stings like a mother going in. Causes swelling and temporary hardening of the fat that subsides a bit the next day. $17/bottle
I think all of these work a little bit to some extent. I chose to order more Lipo Lab because it seemed the most effective even though it has less DCA but it does have PPC that may be synergetic. It's not painful to inject like the last 3 on the list. To get this fat pouch eliminated its going to take many more bottles over months if it is at all possible.
One problem is these aren't meant to rid inches of fat. Probably more like 1/8 to 1". I started too early in my weight loss process. I don't think that is a problem other than the pain of injection and money spent. I do think if i want a nice-looking stomach i will have to keep this up for a long time. The alternative is real surgical lipo which is probably going to cost in excess of $6000 here in Massachusetts. Everything is more expensive here. Plus the pain of recovery, wearing compression garment and so on. I would elect to do the awake local procedure which some say is extremely painful. I do not want to go under general anesthesia for something not absolutely necessary.
I ordered several to try and have gone thru it all except for the Chinese lemon bottle. About 25 10ml bottles total.
Chinese knockoff lemon bottle
Lemon Bottle
Neobella
Lipo Lab
MCCM
Skinderma
Desobody
I tried as much as possible to put different ones in different areas to isolate on the different effects.
Chinese lemon bottle - one 10ml bottle gave me a gout flare up. Put using the rest of the 10 bottles on hold. $12/bottle
Lemon Bottle - very expensive. I paid $50 for 1 10ml bottle. not worth it in my opinion $50/bottle
Neobella - very mild did not notice very much effect other than some swelling $30/bottle
Lipo Lab - medium mild, does not cause much swelling, but area i used it on has reduced to the point that my lower stomach is very noticeably lop sided. I ordered 2 more boxes of this. 20 vials for $200 $10/bottle
MCCM- a spanish company. It's supposed to have 10% DCA it stings going in. Causes a lot of swelling. $12/bottle
Skinderma - this could be the exact same thing. It's very similar to MCCM sold by the same company. $12/bottle
Desobody - i'm not sure whats in this but it stings like a mother going in. Causes swelling and temporary hardening of the fat that subsides a bit the next day. $17/bottle
I think all of these work a little bit to some extent. I chose to order more Lipo Lab because it seemed the most effective even though it has less DCA but it does have PPC that may be synergetic. It's not painful to inject like the last 3 on the list. To get this fat pouch eliminated its going to take many more bottles over months if it is at all possible.
One problem is these aren't meant to rid inches of fat. Probably more like 1/8 to 1". I started too early in my weight loss process. I don't think that is a problem other than the pain of injection and money spent. I do think if i want a nice-looking stomach i will have to keep this up for a long time. The alternative is real surgical lipo which is probably going to cost in excess of $6000 here in Massachusetts. Everything is more expensive here. Plus the pain of recovery, wearing compression garment and so on. I would elect to do the awake local procedure which some say is extremely painful. I do not want to go under general anesthesia for something not absolutely necessary.
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YoYoFat
GLP-1 Specialist
FWIW, heavier RSes have greater muscle mass because they need that muscle to carry around a heavier body, hence why they have thicker calves in general. If I take a fit 150 RS and measure their muscle mass, then add 100 pounds onto that same RS, their muscle mass will increase. Take that 100 pounds away, and their muscle mass will decrease.
So while an RS might lose some muscle in their journey, I’m not terribly convinced it’s all that bad, at least not insofar as needing to fear monger. It doesn’t take much for an RS to maintain what he already has.
YoYoFat
GLP-1 Specialist
Have you tried any of the clear protein that tastes like juice or lemonade? Before that, found it impossible to get my protein in.
YoYoFat
GLP-1 Specialist
Are you talking about ascites? It often causes that pregnant looking stomach in men, and is a sign of an underlying and serious condition.
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
I looked up that condition. Pretty sure it's just a combo of deep fat and subq fat for me. You can go to a Patriots game and see 1000s of guys that look that way.
At some point you should probably just accept your body shape and be confident in it.
Injecting random shit for localized fat burning sounds like a scam based on what I understand about physiology.
Or just get liposuction if you want spot reduction.
Don't get scammed and don't injure yourself with random crap.
Injecting random shit for localized fat burning sounds like a scam based on what I understand about physiology.
Or just get liposuction if you want spot reduction.
Don't get scammed and don't injure yourself with random crap.
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
i haven't had any adverse feelings or reactions to injecting these 25 something bottles of product (save for the chinese lemon bottle) so i am gaining confidence. I've gone slowly over the past couple of months. There are more people injecting this stuff than peptides. It's all over tic toc, Instagram etc. It there were any bad reactions it would be known by now. The FDA has approved deoxycholic acid for this use.
"Just get liposuction" is easy to say by somebody who has never had it. There are many stories of pain and problems from lipo. There is a 6mo recovery period. I could stop these injections and be back to normal in a week.
I do think of the other options as i go thru this process.
"just accept your body shape and be confident in it." I have been doing that for many years. A nice-looking stomach is something i've always tried to get and i want to make one more run at it. Right now, i'd rather have that than a new sports car.
Its just too hard to do it with diet and exercise. You have to eat like a supermodel and workout like crazy constantly. Physically removing the fat is the only realistic option for me. I'm fine with wasting a couple of grand on a scam if that's the way it turns out. It's a risk just like any of this do-it-yourself stuff.
Lots of people do liposuction. You're already engaging in risky behavior. At least consult with a doctor and get a quote on the price. I don't think that's very expensive to get a consult and set and manage some expectations.
Not sure what a "nice looking stomach" means. A assume at least flat, at best you can see some abdominal muscles. But I seriously doubt any injections are going to target and remove fat cells and not kill good tissue.
From what I understand if you want a flat stomach, you really need to get your body fat percentage into the single digits. If you were there now, in the single digits, and then considering injecting unicorn piss to burn fat locally, it'd be one thing. Is your body composition in the single digits for fat percentage? It doesn't sound like it from what I read.
But hey, it's your world and your body. Do what you want.
Unicorn piss…. If I ever decide to invent a new peptide I know what I’ll call it 😂
jtech007
New Member
Isn't that was some say Joe Rogan has?
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
Captain Kirk voice: but that's what we'll have to find out.
what does a nice looking stomach mean. For me the best i can hope for is something not disgusting to look at.
I'll get a consult but with the prices around here i'm betting 10 grand.
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mostlydamp
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Are we just gonna ignore the part about the old sex tapes? OK then. You go Oyster!
if 10k+ you can also consider medical h'days, specifically in Malaysia quality of the care here is very high and lipo costs maybe around USD 2-3k only, another option is all time favorite - Thailand, probably little bit more expensive, maybe lower quality / standards, but much more fun activities in the meantime, another options - maybe some south american countries? I really have no idea how is it there ... but with 10k budget you have so many options I think
What about cryolipolysis? Isn't that specifically designed to kill stubborn fat pockets in specific areas? And I think the recovery time is like zero. Not sure how well it works though, other than vague assurances that it DOES work to some extent.
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
i have a wife i have to get any office procedure approved thru. Any of you have one of those? I do not own my body, she does. With these injections i can just do it on the down low.
Let's give these time to work and see how it goes.w
Edit: watching vids of lipo where they ram that rod around under your skin 1000 times makes me want to pee myself a little bit. I guess i'm a whimp. I know it.
cryolipolysis? how do you not get frostbite. it seems it would damage the skin.
Let's give these time to work and see how it goes.w
Edit: watching vids of lipo where they ram that rod around under your skin 1000 times makes me want to pee myself a little bit. I guess i'm a whimp. I know it.
cryolipolysis? how do you not get frostbite. it seems it would damage the skin.
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What are your favorite clear proteins? I cannot do anything that thickens the liquid- that just really makes me wanna puke
Go Pats!
YoYoFat
GLP-1 Specialist
Not really. Ascetis isn’t a condition, it’s a symptom of a condition. If you’ve got that pregnant belly, there’s a specific cause for that inflammation, often related to cirrhosis, but can also be inflammation from other malignant processes in the abdomen.
I don’t mean to scare you, but that hard pregnant belly isn’t just “deep fat.” My former boss died from cancer, first sign of malignant ascetis.
Derby
New Member
Google "paradoxical adipose hyperplasia" before considering cryolipolysis!
MiniatureSnail
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Absolutely love your selective skepticism.
chmuse
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I use isopure. It goes on sale on Amazon pretty often, I just got the 36 servings on sale for $38. If you do subscribe and save it's cheaper but I like to switch up the flavors, I'd get bored with the same one every month.
Thanks so much- gonna try some
Which bariatric surgery did you have? It sounds like we had a very similar experience with losing 110 lb, but then experiencing regain and struggling to lose it. Hence why I'm here ...
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
OK so the stronger injections such as Desobody caused the fat to harden up in some spots. I'll keep you posted on how long they take to resolve. They say it takes weeks for the body to remove dead cells.
Play stupid games...
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
reference the thread "2 grand shot to hell"
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
i have DCA and PPC on the way to make a witches' brew. I have no clue what i'm doing but i'm gonna have fun doing it.
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
I pulled this off some plastic surgery/beauty spa site. So it is working as its supposed to and everything is on track.
- How it works
Fat dissolving injections, such as Kybella or PCDC, are injected into fat cells, causing them to become inflamed and harden. The body's natural processes then break down and eliminate the hardened fat cells.
Having a plastic surgeon do this for you is a bit different than YOLO self injection with untested products. This is even more true with items that are clinically proven to cause DNA damage (which can lead to colon cancer with Kybella when used enough for example).
See even the citations in: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deoxycholic_acid
If you're looking to get medical advice from a place that is marketing + selling it to you, you're going to have a bad time. Pubmed and medical journals should be your friends.
Just calling it out since you were injecting 10x dosages of things recently and you have an experimental pharmacy brewing in your belly.
chmuse
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I ask this genuinely and without judgement. Have you ever done this much research into what mania looks like?
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
there's millions doing this. millions.
do you even leave your house at all. or do you think it too risky?
YoYoFat
GLP-1 Specialist
I'm deceased.
You are quite possibly one of the funniest dudes I've encountered on a forum in a long time, and I'm a GenXer so that's really saying something.
You are quite possibly one of the funniest dudes I've encountered on a forum in a long time, and I'm a GenXer so that's really saying something.
it was just testosterone and it was 10x dose of TRT but still in a normal range many college kids take to go to gym
but we all know oyster is a brave guy, he first try it and after do research only, but im a big fan!!!
