Nexaph testing

[DevynL90]

Just so we're clear about what my specific concerns are, I'm not all that worried about the fact that Nexaph has a bad batch. I am worried about the how and why behind that result.



We're not going to get a better answer to this then we've already gotten from him, and at the end of the day it doesn't change much. Whether it was histidine or a new lyophilization process, he skipped QA.

i'm not hopeful we'll get an answer either, but there's an impression being held by some folks (more so on the other forum) that cain has came here hat in hand and addressed our concerns when in reality he keeps sidestepping this key point and instead planting his flag on other, less important fields of battle. so i'm happy to keep hammering it home and rephrasing until he gives a straight up response.

i also love how spamming a bunch of future vendor coa's is somehow relevant to this discussion, like at all, lmao. come on guys, forget about that one singular issue that i've yet to address! look at all these OTHER times where it tested good!

 

[nccane]

I think Cain's transparency is giving us a view to "how the sausage is made".

I am currently reviewing hundreds of test results posted on a popular peptide testing site. EVERY vendor has bad batches that either fail purity or mass, every single vendor. None of them are getting this level of scrutiny, because they would not provide the level of response and interaction that we are getting from Cain. From many, you would have a hard time getting replacement vials for a failed test. "You sent to Trust Pointe? We only accept results from Jano." I have seen this actual response from one of the CN vendors. Nexaph is sending replacements automatically.

This is the gray market and the inputs required (raws, filler, vials, stoppers, crimps) all introduce risks to the final product.

As customers the best thing we can do is test and try to hold vendors accountable for issues with quality. Plus, publicly call them out when they don't address the issue.

To be fair, until recently, that was Cains response as well when a Tirz came back under purity. It was even in his 99% gurantee disclaimer.

I think he just recently started utilizing trustpointe with the 3rd party tests.

With that said, your point stands. They all fail.

Cains history is why people give him more shit than everyone else. Cain knows that and he's trying to do everything he can to deliver to his customers to rid himself of the early days. I understand that, most should. I give cain business and I also question him when necessary (albeit no where near the witch hunt that occurs on peppys and here)

I have a simple rule for nexaph (as I do all vendors). I won't use it until I see a vendor test and a 3rd party one i was involved in. It's people using vials willy nilly that get them in trouble....like with the nexaph reta and the sry t60/t45

 

[GimmeABreak]

Just so we're clear about what my specific concerns are, I'm not all that worried about the fact that Nexaph has a bad batch. I am worried about the how and why behind that result.

I understand that and I think the response that we received is probably all that we are going to get. I also think this is a ton more info than most CN providers would share. What would Tracy say? My guess is there would be crickets.

 

[noteablequotable]

I understand that and I think the response that we received is probably all that we are going to get. I also think this is a ton more info than most CN providers would share. What would Tracy say? My guess is there would be crickets.

I don't buy from QSC for that very reason and probably never will despite how popular they are

You get the treatment you accept, and if we constantly overlook the same problems they'll keep coming up.

 

[Nikki nik]

Sorry, but what the fuck is wrong with this dude? Running a profitable peptide business isn't rocket science. You buy product from a reputable manufacturer or distributor, pay for some tests to confirm quantity (and where relevant sterility), then sell for cost + profit to people with some nice stickers on it.

That's the ENTIRE business model.

There's no need to do all of this weird shit. Cain appears to be an actual pathological liar

Anyway, someone should probably let the folks on the other forum know. Probably not me since I think the gator may be mad at me. @DwightTheDelight, @milos, @Bacchus, you all are in good standing. Any one of you want to take one for the team?



Yeah but he still tried it which is a problem on its own.

I will never order from Nexaph again