I just find (very fast google search only) study with mice:
btw. this study is interesting to read anyway ...
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btw. this study is interesting to read anyway ...
nurseratchit
Advanced Researcher
Here’s one https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21688370.2023.2292461 …EDIT nevermind, milos beat me to it!
They linked a good one
This is a good one too especially the reference citation at the end
.https://www.touchendocrinology.com/diabetes/journal-articles/tirzepatide-a-novel-once-weekly-dual-gip-and-glp-1-receptor-agonist-for-the-treatment-of-type-2-diabetes
Neuroprotective and restorative properties of the GLP-1/GIP dual agonist DA-JC1 compared with a GLP-1 single agonist in Alzheimer's disease
The sister incretins glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) and glucagon dependent insulinotropic polypeptide (GIP) are growth factors responsible for re-sen…
www.sciencedirect.com
Another article about the multiple neuro protective effects glp/gip peptides……. Fancinates me the effects of these meds
You named the PNG file of that screenshot "crazy nut job" and I will always love you for that 😂🤓
OMFG.. I just saw this! I ordered a sh*tload of Tirz from him in the selling out sale. I just started it yesterday. Do I trust it?
So did he basically they combined Sema and Tirz? Excuse me as I still consider myself a newbie to this side of the process. I have been on OZ for over 2 years now.
Baby peppers annnnd cult members. Wouldn't be interesting to know what percentage of Brandon's FB followers would have absolutely purchased and researched his new concoction?
moonpies4misfits
Advanced Researcher
No, if it were a combo it would simply be labeled as such. He purports to have created a "new peptide" that supposedly has the best effects of both. He was basically trying to play mad scientist
Please don't worry, Lankie. Their regular product line has always met or exceeded quality standards. (In fact, I think that their great reputation went straight to the owner's head, and fed the megalomania that allowed him to dream that he'd be applauded for introducing a brand new untested untried unresearched unproven GLP type drug to the market -- or rather, *his* market of unquestioning fans). But I believe you are perfectly safe using the sema you bought, like I know I will be perfectly safe using the tirz I bought from AR a couple of months ago. I just won't buy from them again, because there are too many trustworthy vendors out there who have not decided they are geniuses.
I agree. Thank you. I do not check these sites daily so when I was on Peppy's yesterday it had all already transpired and all had been taken down.
Dear yello, I ordered that "same amount" (lol) of tirz in that same sale. I absolutely trust it, and I am not a newbie by any means. I will peacefully use it -- but when it is gone, I will never purchase from AR again, because the owner's recent actions in trying to market an *unknown* product to his followers crossed an ethical line. But again, the tried and true and known peptides that he has offered have proven time and time again to be high-quality and reliable -- so I believe you and I and the countless others who purchased during that sale are perfectly safe. 💜
Every time I read this, I think about what a runaway success something called Cleve's Triple 7 would be. That is freaking great name! 😁
hi, Eclipse. Agreed! Like I said, I wasn't there to endorse him, in fact it was really hard to do so given recent events. But there are people out there who just purchased from him and are anxious, and I can't help but want to reassure them. Also agree with you, of course, that Brandon's company simply met the standard that should be expected. It is a standard that the USA vendors consistently reach.
But the USA vendors rarely, if ever, offered the occasional "wholesale-price" promotions that AR did. Which meant that one could purchase kits of USA-level quality-tested product at a China price. And those wholesale promotions were the only time I ever purchased from them. I always remained uncomfortable and kind of creeped out by the fawning on the Peppys site. And I certainly don't mean to "fawn" here 💜
Anyway,
Thank you for this...
I'm sorry.. I know I am new but I am just going to say it. The way it was marketed it sounds like he got stuck with a sh*tload of tirz and combined it with Sema to get rid of it "legally". That was my gut when I saw all this and I am sticking by it because of what it is called and what the two different peps target.
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Why can't they just sale it as L lol Amopure did.
I remember I asked him in a post and he deleted my comment lol
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Hi, Eclipse, I believe it was because Amino Research, a USA company, received a cease and desist letter re patent infringement that named an absolute drop dead date after which he was never to sell T again. That's why we customers got such a dramatic flash "clearance" sale.
Amopure, however, as an overseas seller, did not receive notice of any such action. But! They changed the T to an L when all this happened ... coincidence? (I think not.) And of course it's not going to "protect" them, but nevertheless (to me), it's a nice subtle acknowledgment of the landscape. And as one of our brilliant members here suggested, maybe the L stands for Lilly 😁
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Consuela73
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Plenty of people were ready to buy his invented concoction. I somehow was added to a FB messenger “customer service” group chat for his company. He had mentioned how the new product was coming and dozens of people were clamoring to be allowed to test it. The chat has of course been deleted.
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It's unbelievable
I’m on the same page as you, always have been. Convo got a bit heated/emotional last week, for good reason, but I had to pull away from it.
I want to thank you for speaking out on AR’s FB page as well as over on Peppys. Not everyone can do that; my emotions always get the best of me. Hopefully your comments caused some folks to pause, consider the consequences, and jump off that bandwagon.
My apologies to you if my initial comment was offensive, that was not my intent.
JohnnyGobbs
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The balls on this guy. He’s literally just slinging powder from China like everyone else and thinks he can release his own glp-1 out of his shed without billions of dollars and years of r&d, lol.
SassyPants
Established Member
I have a legit question. I am not sure if this should be a new topic, or if it’s appropriate to ask, delete or move if need be.
Why did Aminos Research get cease & desist order ( as well as others ) and some company’s did not? Some still sell Tirz all day every day, some closed up shop. Aminos appeared to have taken this all very seriously, liquidating their Tirz as quick & cheap as possible. Now, I’m seeing folks selling off what they purchased from him & reading that the Tirz wasn’t effective for some. Anyway, staying on topic. Why was AR so hell bent on washing his hands of Tirz, fearing big pharma, yet vendors all over still advertise & sell it? Again, I’m nosey. ( although I do have my own reasons for asking too )
Why did Aminos Research get cease & desist order ( as well as others ) and some company’s did not? Some still sell Tirz all day every day, some closed up shop. Aminos appeared to have taken this all very seriously, liquidating their Tirz as quick & cheap as possible. Now, I’m seeing folks selling off what they purchased from him & reading that the Tirz wasn’t effective for some. Anyway, staying on topic. Why was AR so hell bent on washing his hands of Tirz, fearing big pharma, yet vendors all over still advertise & sell it? Again, I’m nosey. ( although I do have my own reasons for asking too )
Nikki nik
Advanced Researcher
Hmmmm🤔 it was a opportunity that they ran with $
SassyPants
Established Member
I try to give benefit of doubt, you know? I wonder if anyone has had flash sale T tested? I ask because I’m seeing more & more folks saying they don’t feel effects or food noise is back. I’m far from an expert and was quite clueless about all of this pep stuff before seeing zippity on reddit, following him here, then peppys. ( August of 2023 )
SassyPants
Established Member
Thank you😉
Hi, Maris! I did try to figure it out on my own — but could you tell me what a CS Channel is? Thanks 🙂)
anyone with half a brain selling this stuff should be well aware that they’re racing a clock, and that the game is to make as much as they can before they’re shut down or the environment makes it too risky to continue. Then you go sit on a beach and drink froofroo drinks with bitcoin guys with manbuns. My guess is that bb saw it was his time, the window was closing with the Lilly letter, so went for one last greedy little cash grab.
SassyPants
Established Member
I never met anyone else that uses “ froofroo “ so, thanks for the giggle. I think you nailed it. Appreciate the reply😉
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I'm currently using a different batch of T15 also ordered in the flash sale and it seems fine, but I take a low dose, so if I was taking 1mg instead of 1.5mg I might not really notice.
There was a test that showed significant underdosing (15mg vial that tested around 10mg), that result is available on Peppys. T30 was also tested and tested fine. So it's sort of unclear how extensive and/or nefarious the under-tested product was (could just be a mixup, or could be they decided to sell 10mg as 15mg, which is pretty dumb given bb knows there are a lot of 3p testing forums out there). There are additional vials being tested for confirmation of the underfill, but results aren't public yet.
I'm currently using a different batch of T15 also ordered in the flash sale and it seems fine, but I take a low dose, so if I was taking 1mg instead of 1.5mg I might not really notice.
For real? Now I am pissed. I bought the 15mg sell out. No wonder I feel nothing. I was using it with Oz (Sema) to break a long ass stall. I also bought two 30mg from him before the huge sale that were like 70% off on Peppys.
Well, I just checked on Peppys and they are saying it is batch 0004. Mine is 0002. I hope I am good...
Hi, yello! Not sure why your T is not working for you but want to offer you some information.
There were a number of batches (four, I think) of the 15mg sold in that fire sale. The only one KNOWN to be underfilled is batch FTIR-0004. The disappointing test result of a little over 10 mg was reported on Peppys this weekend.
That is the batch I ended up receiving. I purchased two kits, and my heart dropped when I saw the test results. I haven't used it yet.
I wrote a letter on Sunday to AR about the situation. I knew they were already aware and investigating what could've happened.
Early this morning I received a letter from them with a tracking number. They are sending me enough Tirz to compensate for the underfill.
If you have batch number FTIR-0004, just contact them. Others are now beginning to receive a tracking number for a compensatory shipment.
HERE IS THEIR LETTER:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Aminos Research!
We received excellent results on batch FTIR-0004 before we launched the product. We are currently investigating the cause of the underfilled vials with the 15mg batch. In total you were short 40.3mg per kit that was purchased of Tirzepatide and we will be sending you additional vials today. We will be sending you 4 vials per kit from our FTIR-0001 batch which is Tirzepatide 12.06mg. You purchased 2 kits during the sale so you will receive 8 vials total, and your tracking number is 940551110550128563759X. Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter.
Kind Regards,
Aminos Research Care Team
We appreciate your business!
Just don't try to contact them about the other batches 😏 I asked if they had any additional 3p testing reports from customers for the other batches given the 0004 result and was met with a very curt response that the other batches tested fine internally (yah, so did 0004). I only have 1 more vial so I don't really care at this point, although I would donate it for testing on principle.
Thank you for letting us know. I am glad they are making it up to you. Like I said, I have the 15mg 0004 kit. I may just have to quit altogether for a few weeks or add Cagri.
SassyPants
Established Member
You are talking t
You talking the # FTIR-0004 that is on the vial label itself? If so, I have that as well. Was it 5 - 15mg vials of Tirz for $220
I will check for you as soon as I can, Sassy, but it's going to be a little while; having a lot of hurricane-related tech issues (and a few emotional ones as well 😩🙃)
SassyPants
Established Member
No rush. Stay safe. Driving home from Pine Knob now and we have light rain. No hurricanes, thankfully🥰
SassyPants
Established Member
I love this!🤣💀Thanks for the laugh!
Thank you for this. I will send an email now. I purchased on the super blowout sale with a link from Peppys for $186 per kit...
Oh no! Are you safe, Garbo? This was one of the most insane hurricanes I have ever seen. My husband was out of town so it was just me and my 15 year old. The eye was supposed to come right over my town at 3-6 am. I stayed up until 7. We got so lucky... it shifted west.
I hope everyone is safe. That was scary as hell.
Isn't it awful when we escape harms away but know that it's headed toward other human beings ?!?
I am safe from everything but my own spoiled self who is stillllll shocked (after 3-1/2 days!) to find herself with no power, no Internet, spotty cellular, trees down everywhere (sob), power lines across roads ... and something all GLP users will appreciate… no refrigeration for "my special foods" nor for ... those cute little vials we all know and love. 🙃
Okay — that was my daily cellular allotment annnnd my daily whining allotment. I am absolutely safe and sound and the truth is, I don't have a problem in the world except me 💜
moonpies4misfits
Advanced Researcher
I totally feel you on this. I am in Atlanta and we originally though it was gonna rip right through us before is changed gears and started moving east. I was only without power for about 18 hours (I am on the East side so I caught some of the heavy winds). Atlanta was mostly unscathed aside from some fallen trees. I feel grateful but guilty almost as well. Fate decided to make up for it I guess and gave us a plume of smoke and chlorine gas from the BioLab fire that made its way to multiple counties 😬 It feels very dystopian in the Southeast these last few days.
I too have that same batch number. I emailed them and have heard nothing yet, maybe they were hit by the "storm" too. Hope you are back up soon.❤️
I did receive a reply.
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Aminos Research!
We received excellent results on batch FTIR-0004 before we launched the product. We are currently investigating the cause of the underfilled vials with the 15mg batch. In total you were short 40.3mg per kit that was purchased of Tirzepatide and we will be sending you additional vials today. We will be sending you 4 vials per kit from our FTIR-0001 batch which is Tirzepatide 12.06mg. Your purchased 1 kit so you will receive 4 vials total, and your tracking number is 9405511105501278251006. Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter.
Kind Regards,
Aminos Research Care Team
We appreciate your business!
Same letter I received yesterday. I am glad he is making good on it... no matter what we paid.
I am near you. Same state. Gwinnett. We never even lost power, thankfully. I have a whole house generator that runs on gas so we would have been okay if we did. The devastation is absolutely heartbreaking.. I cannot get off IG. People from Augusta are driving up 2 hours to here to get supplies. It is just awful.
Biolab can just suck it. I am seeing that this is not the first time. The day after, after we were told that it was done... after other towns around me had black char crap falling from the sky, I took my son to school between 7 and 8:10 am. I looked out the window at 8:45 and could see NOTHING but haze. I opened my back door and it hit me like a ton of bricks. My eyes, throat and chest were burning for hours. It stayed around for a few hours until the wind shifted...
I agree. It does feel very dystopian.
So glad to hear you are okay. We are all very lucky...
