Nexaph First Purchase - Retatrutide

[Bacchus]

It does, however I don't see this as a bad thing as it forces less experienced users to do their due diligence or simply skip the vendor in favor of another if they aren't willing to invest the time. Both of theses will ultimately cut down on the number of people getting scammed or buying unsafe products, which is still a net positive.


I'm sure you realize internet message boards just don't work that way. It's not in their design, especially forums that were developed to have minimal moderation like this one. And while everyone should come forward with as much info as possible, alot of times people can't offer the complete picture, but know enough to know something is off. I don't want people to hold back in these situations, as long as they are sharing the info to help others in the community.

What I read from your post, is that you’re ok with vendors being drowned in spit without any real way of doing anything about it…

To hell with the actual truth, it’s a forum - so let’s let anarchy rule.

I’m not talking about holding back or not sharing information. I’m talking about structuring the discussion in a way that makes it easier to see the facts… But I suppose there is a good reason why some would dislike that

 

[brentm]

How do you know that what you received is what is shown on the tests you’re using to evaluate a product? That’s why it matters. Liars cannot be trusted, and unless you’re getting everything tested yourself then you’re putting a lot of faith in a supplier when it comes to ugl injectables. Suppliers get busted all the time falsifying tests or recycling good tests on known bad batches, and someone with a demonstrated lack of honesty seems to be to be much more likely to do that with the stuff you’re shooting into your subcutaneous fat. What do you think this guy will do when he orders 5000 kits of tirz that he discovers is marginal in some way? Eat the huge loss or sell them with tests from a different batch? I can’t say for sure but my money is not on eating the loss given the track record of unethical behavior.

It’s not like it’s hard to find vendors that aren’t known liars so I fail to see how anyone could decide that these guys are the way to go.

Seems like 2 of the 3 vendors I've dealt with on these forums have almost no track record and have been dishonest in some way.

Just for kicks, I grabbed a random vendor I haven't done business with to see if I was right.

I mean these vendors will just drop one identity and create a new one if push comes to shove. It's no wonder they don't have any restraint when being abusive with questions on integrity. They'll just create a new identity in a few weeks.

I mean if SNP has a cover story to insulate themselves while residing in the USA, why aren't we calling out the obvious lies every vendor seems to start a relationship off with?

I'd rather see a picture of their shoe than an photo of a pretty asian girl with a fake western name. It's not like we have any recourse one way or another. But honesty for me means something of a tangible identity. Be it a shoe photo, or their pet, or something real. Or heck... www.thispersondoesnotexist.com and grab a photo I can't google lens. 😛 (don't worry, you can still tell the image is AI generated)

Now on the fake pens and whatever else was the issue with SNP, I don't know the details. But it seems like this entire subculture of peptides is rife with deception from the moment you click the link.

I agree with the overall sentiment on honesty. But it just kind of seems like part of the game.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

What I read from your post, is that you’re ok with vendors being drowned in spit without any real way of doing anything about it…

I am saying that as a community, I would advocate we prioritize the safety and well-being of the people buying these peptides over the business interests of the vendors. For many on here, the consequences of being scammed are a lot worse than the consequences of a rumor harming a vendors bottom line. I also don’t think rumors like what was shared here early on in this thread are generally unfounded. There are so many grifters in this grey market that honest vendors may be the exception and not the rule. You might be one of the honest ones, certainly nothing you’ve posted here would cause me to doubt your integrity, but in general there are some sketchy people in your line of work.

To hell with the actual truth, it’s a forum - so let’s let anarchy rule.

Not even close.

I advocated for people sharing as much info as possible, but recognize that due to the nature of a forum (and oppressive rules from other boards regarding info sharing), we will never get to the bottom of everything. I’d rather have incomplete info, or a few red flags raised than nothing. Vendors can defend themselves, but structure and facts may not always be achievable. If this makes things difficult for vendors my opinion is that while that may be unfortunate, I don’t think members here should worry about it.

There is so much money to be made, I think you guys will be fine. The retiree conned out of half his social security check, not so much

 

[Pepsicle]

How do you know that what you received is what is shown on the tests you’re using to evaluate a product? That’s why it matters. Liars cannot be trusted, and unless you’re getting everything tested yourself then you’re putting a lot of faith in a supplier when it comes to ugl injectables. Suppliers get busted all the time falsifying tests or recycling good tests on known bad batches, and someone with a demonstrated lack of honesty seems to be to be much more likely to do that with the stuff you’re shooting into your subcutaneous fat. What do you think this guy will do when he takes delivery of 5000 kits of tirz that he discovers is marginal in some way? Eat the huge loss or sell them with tests from a different batch? I can’t say for sure but my money is not on eating the loss given the track record of unethical behavior.

It’s not like it’s hard to find vendors that aren’t known liars so I fail to see how anyone could decide that these guys are the way to go.

Can you tell us the “honest” supplier you recommend since you don’t think we should buy from Nexaph. Thank you

 

[milos]

Can you tell us the “honest” supplier you recommend since you don’t think we should buy from Nexaph. Thank you

this type of posts is exactly the one which will bring us nowhere, it will result just in another page or two of useless messages from new members who just wants to argue and not to contribute with some new knowledge to this community

 

[Pepsicle]

this type of posts is exactly the one which will bring us nowhere, it will result just in another page or two of useless messages from new members who just wants to argue and not to contribute with some new knowledge to this community

I asked a legit question. It’s a forum, it will help many decide to choose a honest domestic USA vendor with affordable kits and tested products. I don’t remember tagging you.😏

 

[milos]

I asked a legit question. It’s a forum, it will help many decide to choose a honest domestic USA vendor with affordable kits and tested products. I don’t remember tagging you.😏

find appropriate thread and wait until someone tag you

 

[Tomes]

I miss the days when we all just argued over @raw_oyster_eater ’s experiments 🫠

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Can you tell us the “honest” supplier you recommend since you don’t think we should buy from Nexaph. Thank you

I don’t recommended them for everyone because lots of people seem to struggle with aligning their expectations with the reality of the purchasing experience, but I mostly use QSC domestic. Again, not for everyone and involves a very hands-on approach where I’m very aware of recent third party testing and participate in group tests, have purely transactional communications with the vendor, and am comfortable waiting if things don’t happen immediately. Price is important to me and I don’t think QSC’s first party testing is any less or more trustworthy than SPCs. I’m willing to do the work on the back end to feel comfortable about the products, and there is a long track record. Say what you will about Tracy he isn’t a liar (I know he is anonymous, that isn’t the same as being a well known community member manufacturing a whole fake ass identity and putting “Shanghai” in your midawestern business name).

In the odd case where I have to use a domestic and not perform or participate in any third party testing then Polaris is where I go. I know the guy from when he used to help run the big testing server, before he started Polaris, so trust him on a personal level. It costs a whole lot more than QSC but those are the tradeoffs right?

I’ll add that this is right now. All suppliers have ups and downs, maybe Q more than others, so the environment and options need to be evaluated at every purchase. There have been periods of months where all I did was trash Q because of a bunch of bad tests they didn’t handle properly. But again, they didn’t lie, they just did what they said they would do, which I disagreed with but was able to make an informed decision because of it (which you can’t do when you’re dealing with liars).

This is not an endorsement or recommendation for you to use them, I’m telling you who I use and why because you asked.

 

[Pepsicle]

I don’t recommended them for everyone because lots of people seem to struggle with aligning their expectations with the reality of the purchasing experience, but I mostly use QSC domestic. Again, not for everyone and involves a very hands-on approach where I’m very aware of recent third party testing and participate in group tests, have purely transactional communications with the vendor, and am comfortable waiting if things don’t happen immediately. Price is important to me and I don’t think QSC’s first party testing is any less or more trustworthy than SPCs. I’m willing to do the work on the back end to feel comfortable about the products, and there is a long track record. Say what you will about Tracy he isn’t a liar (I know he is anonymous, that isn’t the same as being a well known community member manufacturing a whole fake ass identity and putting “Shanghai” in your midawestern business name).

In the odd case where I have to use a domestic and not perform or participate in any third party testing then Polaris is where I go. I know the guy from when he used to help run the big testing server, before he started Polaris, so trust him on a personal level. It costs a whole lot more than QSC but those are the tradeoffs right?

I’ll add that this is right now. All suppliers have ups and downs, maybe Q more than others, so the environment and options need to be evaluated at every purchase. There have been periods of months where all I did was trash Q because of a bunch of bad tests they didn’t handle properly. But again, they didn’t lie, they just did what they said they would do, which I disagreed with but was able to make an informed decision because of it (which you can’t do when you’re dealing with liars).

This is not an endorsement or recommendation for you to use them, I’m telling you who I use and why because you asked.

Thank you so much for this! I have definitely recommended QSC in the past too and I have had zero issues with my orders. Best prices and history of testing, probably the most tested vendor currently if I’m not wrong.

But we all know a lot of people will disagree because of the way Tracy operates and recent reports of cap colors received not matching tests, multiple products arriving with no labels and way to to know what was received.

I think this was where Nexaph was trying to fill the gap. Provide US standard customer service, COA linked to kits, easy credit card payments, fair priced kits that ships fast domestic. The lying and deceit about the way they set up their company does not really matter much to me especially as this is a gray market,

But I definitely respect your opinion on them and it sounds like you know more than me about this Nexaph company. But as long as the product they are selling checks out, maybe we can give them a chance, run some test on ptds in addition to the ones they do, which is actually already been done through Raven.

Anyone wants to crowdfund to run tests on the recent Reta 10 sold by Nexaph to verify their jano? I’ll chip in.

 

[LumpySpace]

I don’t recommended them for everyone because lots of people seem to struggle with aligning their expectations with the reality of the purchasing experience, but I mostly use QSC domestic. Again, not for everyone and involves a very hands-on approach where I’m very aware of recent third party testing and participate in group tests, have purely transactional communications with the vendor, and am comfortable waiting if things don’t happen immediately. Price is important to me and I don’t think QSC’s first party testing is any less or more trustworthy than SPCs. I’m willing to do the work on the back end to feel comfortable about the products, and there is a long track record. Say what you will about Tracy he isn’t a liar (I know he is anonymous, that isn’t the same as being a well known community member manufacturing a whole fake ass identity and putting “Shanghai” in your midawestern business name).

In the odd case where I have to use a domestic and not perform or participate in any third party testing then Polaris is where I go. I know the guy from when he used to help run the big testing server, before he started Polaris, so trust him on a personal level. It costs a whole lot more than QSC but those are the tradeoffs right?

I’ll add that this is right now. All suppliers have ups and downs, maybe Q more than others, so the environment and options need to be evaluated at every purchase. There have been periods of months where all I did was trash Q because of a bunch of bad tests they didn’t handle properly. But again, they didn’t lie, they just did what they said they would do, which I disagreed with but was able to make an informed decision because of it (which you can’t do when you’re dealing with liars).

This is not an endorsement or recommendation for you to use them, I’m telling you who I use and why because you asked.

Just to play devil's advocate, what is to stop, say Skyepeptides from withholding failed sterility or purity testing reports? Who on would even know if they did? Why should they have my trust just because they are based in US? There is no one who can hold them accountable to us. It is not like I am going to spend hundreds of dollars on testing their peps after paying thousands for their product. I, additionally, doubt that they send 200 random vials from a specific batch for proper sterility testing. And whatever passed sterility testing they post on their website does not guarantee that any other vials in that batch would be sterile either. And if I get sick, who do I complain to? FTC? Local PD? FBI?

The fact of the matter is, domestic sellers are no better than any Chinese sellers in any single respect. They are all the same, they get their products from the same places we do and then mark it up and make it look pretty.

I can just as well start a rumor about failed sterility testing until somebody picks it up and inflates it even further without any reasonable proof.

On a serious note, 2 vials of tirz that I purchased from Skye during their anniversary sale had no vacuum. I had to push liquid in with my syringe. So they f#$% up just as any Chinese supplier.

 

[Bacchus]

Just to play devil's advocate, what is to stop, say Skyepeptides from withholding failed sterility or purity testing reports? Who on would even know if they did? Why should they have my trust just because they are based in US? There is no one who can hold them accountable to us. It is not like I am going to spend hundreds of dollars on testing their peps after paying thousands for their product. I, additionally, doubt that they send 200 random vials from a specific batch for proper sterility testing. And whatever passed sterility testing they post on their website does not guarantee that any other vials in that batch would be sterile either. And if I get sick, who do I complain to? FTC? Local PD? FBI?

The fact of the matter is, domestic sellers are no better than any Chinese sellers in any single respect. They are all the same, they get their products from the same places we do and then mark it up and make it look pretty.

I can just as well start a rumor about failed sterility testing until somebody picks it up and inflates it even further without any reasonable proof.

On a serious note, 2 vials of tirz that I purchased from Skye during their anniversary sale had no vacuum. I had to push liquid in with my syringe. So they f#$% up just as any Chinese supplier.

You are right about a lot of stuff, and a tiny bit off the mark on some stuff 🙂

Yes, a lot of US vendors source from the same place you do and mark it up (I have no idea who, how many nor what %).

Some do not, and some also pay substantially more than you do when ordering from China - even if it’s orders 50-300x your orders in size. If vendors that has been dealing with the chinese substance market for 10+ years does that. There might be a good reason for it 🤷‍♂️ Or they might just be stupid and unable to find the sources you can find online in the matter of 5 minutes 🙃

The real issue is that this is a grey/black market. And it’s not old or developed enough for there to be actors that can guarantee fair play.

It’s still in the wild west stage

And since it’s not exactly legal, traceability is an issue.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Just to play devil's advocate, what is to stop, say Skyepeptides from withholding failed sterility or purity testing reports? Who on would even know if they did? Why should they have my trust just because they are based in US? There is no one who can hold them accountable to us. It is not like I am going to spend hundreds of dollars on testing their peps after paying thousands for their product. I, additionally, doubt that they send 200 random vials from a specific batch for proper sterility testing. And whatever passed sterility testing they post on their website does not guarantee that any other vials in that batch would be sterile either. And if I get sick, who do I complain to? FTC? Local PD? FBI?

The fact of the matter is, domestic sellers are no better than any Chinese sellers in any single respect. They are all the same, they get their products from the same places we do and then mark it up and make it look pretty.

I can just as well start a rumor about failed sterility testing until somebody picks it up and inflates it even further without any reasonable proof.

On a serious note, 2 vials of tirz that I purchased from Skye during their anniversary sale had no vacuum. I had to push liquid in with my syringe. So they f#$% up just as any Chinese supplier.

You’re saying that all of them sourcing their products from overseas and lacking government oversight means they’re all identical which isn’t true. Youre not accounting for shades of gray. There is much greater risk choosing to buy from a seller with a bad track record than a good one, since their Chinese sources are of variable quality and how they handle bad batches also varies. There is no riskless option, if that is your standard then you need to go get your meds from Walgreens, this isn’t the place for you (I don’t mean you specifically, @LumpySpace).

You’re right that bad actors can come out and muddy the water with false accusations, which is where the community and testing come into play. I participate in testing so I don’t have to rely on random reports from internet strangers.

You’re also right that domestic sellers are not better as a rule, except that they are faster. You’re incorrect that a lack of vacuum is an indicator of poor quality, it isn’t, so that doesn’t represent the Skye fuck up you seem to think it does.

 

[LumpySpace]

You’re saying that all of them sourcing their products from overseas and lacking government oversight means they’re all identical which isn’t true. Youre not accounting for shades of gray. There is much greater risk choosing to buy from a seller with a bad track record than a good one, since their Chinese sources are of variable quality and how they handle bad batches also varies. There is no riskless option, if that is your standard then you need to go get your meds from Walgreens, this isn’t the place for you (I don’t mean you specifically, @LumpySpace).

You’re right that bad actors can come out and muddy the water with false accusations, which is where the community and testing come into play. I participate in testing so I don’t have to rely on random reports from internet strangers.

You’re also right that domestic sellers are not better as a rule, except that they are faster. You’re incorrect that a lack of vacuum is an indicator of poor quality, it isn’t, so that doesn’t represent the Skye fuck up you seem to think it does.

I think you are splitting hairs there. As for lack of vacuum, I have never said it indicated bad quality. I still used the product and it worked as intended. The point was that no one in this business is more or less reliable, it is up to a buyer to judge for him/herself.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

The point was that no one in this business is more or less reliable, it is up to a buyer to judge for him/herself.

Sorry I’m not trying to split hairs or beat a dead horse, but what I’m trying to get across is that businesses are indeed more or less reliable, it’s not like they’re all selling from the exact same pile of overseas vials and all that differs is the look of their Shopify storefronts. Quality varies dramatically between sources. I used to help run a testing server so have seen A LOT of test results.

That said, we are definitely in agreement that it’s up to buyers to judge for themselves.

 

[Bacchus]

I think you are splitting hairs there. As for lack of vacuum, I have never said it indicated bad quality. I still used the product and it worked as intended. The point was that no one in this business is more or less reliable, it is up to a buyer to judge for him/herself.

He is most definitely not splitting hairs.

I feel like you are confusing “no one is more or less reliable” with “there is no way for the average user to understand which is more or less reliable”

 

[BamaCrazy]

You are right about a lot of stuff, and a tiny bit off the mark on some stuff 🙂

Yes, a lot of US vendors source from the same place you do and mark it up (I have no idea who, how many nor what %).

Some do not, and some also pay substantially more than you do when ordering from China - even if it’s orders 50-300x your orders in size. If vendors that has been dealing with the chinese substance market for 10+ years does that. There might be a good reason for it 🤷‍♂️ Or they might just be stupid and unable to find the sources you can find online in the matter of 5 minutes 🙃

The real issue is that this is a grey/black market. And it’s not old or developed enough for there to be actors that can guarantee fair play.

It’s still in the wild west stage

And since it’s not exactly legal, traceability is an issue.

I would disagree that its not developed or old. GLPs are the new kids on the block but these same vendors have been selling prescription medications and performance enhancing products long before GLPs came along. That crowd laughs at our complaints of sterility and untrustworthy vendors.

 

[Bacchus]

I would disagree that its not developed or old. GLPs are the new kids on the block but these same vendors have been selling prescription medications and performance enhancing products long before GLPs came along. That crowd laughs at our complaints of sterility and untrustworthy vendors.

I didn’t say the vendors are new (though there are definitely a lot of opportunists). But the market is, and so is the market structure and trust system.

You are comparing two completely different markets. The existing steroid/prescription drug market is not the same as the current exploding market for glps and a few popular peptides. And the customers are completely different

Apples and oranges

Edit; spelling

 

[Dee X]

I didn’t say the vendors are new (though there are definitely a lot of opportunists). But the market is, and so is the market structure and trust system.

You are comparing two completely different markets. The existing steroid/prescription drug market is not the same as the current exploding market for glps and a few popular peptides. And the customers are completely different

Apples and oranges

Edit; spelling

It's also interesting seeing that crowd moving into GLP1s.

 

[peptideusername]

There was a spammer posting links all over the forum to a site selling a bunch of designer street drugs, some not yet illegal but a few on the list were Schedule I and Schedule II.

Oh I see, thank you. Didn’t see that so it must’ve been gone already.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I didn’t say the vendors are new (though there are definitely a lot of opportunists). But the market is, and so is the market structure and trust system.

You are comparing two completely different markets. The existing steroid/prescription drug market is not the same as the current exploding market for glps and a few popular peptides. And the customers are completely different

Apples and oranges

Edit; spelling

While I get your point those old vendors have started selling GLPs and are now a one stop shop. And sometimes cheaper. And with street cred.

 

[Dee X]

Oh I see, thank you. Didn’t see that so it must’ve been gone already.

Yea there were some rough narcotics getting posted by a spammer, all the schedules.

 

[Bacchus]

While I get your point those old vendors have started selling GLPs and are now a one stop shop. And sometimes cheaper. And with street cred.

And what is that street cred worth among an audience that doesn’t know the streets?

Cheaper than what? If they have Chinese prices, they are likely to have potential issues with purity/bunk product too.

With the margins the established domestic ones operate with. They will be/are in the same range as the cheapest research peptide shops.

Anything cheaper, and you will have issues with purity, bunk product and bad fill. Since that isn’t going to be from the top tier vendors.

Or are you talking about products from China? Sure, but that market has and always will be very messy for a retail customers, too much noise.

 

[noteablequotable]

Just to play devil's advocate, what is to stop, say Skyepeptides from withholding failed sterility or purity testing reports? Who on would even know if they did? Why should they have my trust just because they are based in US?

Seems like 2 of the 3 vendors I've dealt with on these forums have almost no track record and have been dishonest in some way.

I mean these vendors will just drop one identity and create a new one if push comes to shove. It's no wonder they don't have any restraint when being abusive with questions on integrity. They'll just create a new identity in a few weeks.

Highlighting these specific replies because while I think @exploitedworkerbee is absolutely right, no company can be 100% honest when operating in a grey market. The incentives to deceive are baked into the pie and in some cases it's impossible to tell whether or not someone is trying to hide from their customers, the government, or a multinational corporation.

Anyone wants to crowdfund to run tests on the recent Reta 10 sold by Nexaph to verify their jano? I’ll chip in.

What @Pepsicle has suggested is literally the only thing we can do to mitigate this risk: test everything for quality, sterility, and contamination. That is prohibitively expensive, but maybe there are people in this community and Peppy's willing to form an independent testing body (that does not sell peptides!), and share any results for an affordable fee.

If we had monthly reports on in demand peptides from 5-10 vendors I think this discussion would feel much less high stakes.

Maybe you can talk @dionysos into working on this since they are so community oriented 🏃💨

 

[milos]

What @Pepsicle has suggested is literally the only thing we can do to mitigate this risk: test everything for quality, sterility, and contamination. That is prohibitively expensive, but maybe there are people in this community and Peppy's willing to form an independent testing body (that does not sell peptides!), and share any results for an affordable fee.
🏃💨

In my opinion, there is no point in sterility testing if the vendor itself does not claim that the product is sterile, as from some recent tests we see that many vendors have failed and some openly say that their product is not guaranteed sterile.

Another issue is how to do these sterility tests in the future, because it is more important to test what pathogens are there exactly and not just fail/pass. (will have to probably work with some bio lab)

Anyway, if some of the Nexa customers want to coordinate 3rd party testing, it could be very interesting to confirm if their "linked COAs" will really be in line with the independent testing of the vials sent out to customers.

 

[zpped]

Highlighting these specific replies because while I think @exploitedworkerbee is absolutely right, no company can be 100% honest when operating in a grey market. The incentives to deceive are baked into the pie and in some cases it's impossible to tell whether or not someone is trying to hide from their customers, the government, or a multinational corporation.



What @Pepsicle has suggested is literally the only thing we can do to mitigate this risk: test everything for quality, sterility, and contamination. That is prohibitively expensive, but maybe there are people in this community and Peppy's willing to form an independent testing body (that does not sell peptides!), and share any results for an affordable fee.

If we had monthly reports on in demand peptides from 5-10 vendors I think this discussion would feel much less high stakes.

Maybe you can talk @dionysos into working on this since they are so community oriented 🏃💨

This place already exists. Keep working way through the levels at peppys

 

[noteablequotable]

In my opinion, there is no point in sterility testing if the vendor itself does not claim that the product is sterile, as from some recent tests we see that many vendors have failed and some openly say that their product is not guaranteed sterile.

Another issue is how to do these sterility tests in the future, because it is more important to test what pathogens are there exactly and not just fail/pass. (will have to probably work with some bio lab)

Anyway, if some of the Nexa customers want to coordinate 3rd party testing, it could be very interesting to confirm if their "linked COAs" will really be in line with the independent testing of the vials sent out to customers.

Agree that it's not really useful unless you actually identify the pathogens, but if you are testing the same product offered by multiple vendors and some consistently pass sterility tests where others do not it can be a factor in decision making.

If you wanted to regularly test and report the results for Tirz, Sema or Reta offered by 5 different companies it would be expensive but feasible if the community was willing to support it.

 

[noteablequotable]

This place already exists. Keep working way through the levels at Peppy's

Do you mean the monthly posts? I've seen those but they don't appear to test the same products from the same vendors each month. Consistency is part of what makes the testing valuable.

If there is something else I haven't stumbled on over at Peppy's then I'd say it's not quite what I think is needed here. The testing needs to be accessible enough that it can inform decision making for people with the least knowledge and fewest connections who feel comfortable spending $15-25 on a report.

I think the fact that whatever is going on at Peppy's had no influence on this conversation, or the one about Zhejiang Zhaobo Technology where @Vacation4us narrowly avoided being scammed is really telling.

Zhejiang Zhaobo Technology Co. Ltd

Apr 24, 2024

Hello,

I conducted research on various companies to obtain pricing information for different peptides.
I requested quotes for four different peptides and observed a significant price range.
In my investigation, Zhejiang Zhaobo Technology Co. Ltd emerged as the provider with the lowest price.
Has anyone had any experience dealing with them?

They claim to be manufacturers and not to be traders, which could explain their competitive pricing.

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[noteablequotable]

I am going to stop spamming this thread but I just visited Janoshik's site because I was curious about how much he charges for heavy metal testing (60 USD), and it looks like Nexaph recently sent over some samples that tested well. They could have intentionally picked their best product, but at least we know they have access to the real stuff. No Reta report, but it is also currently out of stock.

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytical

 

[Semamomma]

@dionysos

What exactly is the website url?? If you cannot post links, are you able to privately message it to me? Or just say what SPC stands for??

As I’m trying to follow all of this going through pages and pages of posts about sterility tests and other nonsense I wish I had been spared (because now I have a splitting headache!), yet I still don’t yet see anything about your personal experience with the product in question.

How did the product you received work for you? It’s a GLP-1, so it’s easy to know if what you received works as expected or not. Am I wrong?? I don’t think so.

All of this other bullshit (not that it’s bullshit, but…) aside, how did it work for your RS??

That’s my question. If it was already discussed and I just haven’t gotten to that part of the discussion, i apologize. (I’m late to the party, and i will go ahead and apologize for that right now.)

Thanks for the insight!! 🙏

 

[milos]

@dionysos

What exactly is the website url?? If you cannot post links, are you able to privately message it to me? Or just say what SPC stands for??

As I’m trying to follow all of this going through pages and pages of posts about sterility tests and other nonsense I wish I had been spared (because now I have a splitting headache!), yet I still don’t yet see anything about your personal experience with the product in question.

How did the product you received work for you? It’s a GLP-1, so it’s easy to know if what you received works as expected or not. Am I wrong?? I don’t think so.

All of this other bullshit (not that it’s bullshit, but…) aside, how did it work for your RS??

That’s my question. If it was already discussed and I just haven’t gotten to that part of the discussion, i apologize. (I’m late to the party, and i will go ahead and apologize for that right now.)

Thanks for the insight!! 🙏

did you check @dionysos vendors list already?

 

[Semamomma]

did you check @dionysos vendors list already?

I hear about that list, I know about that list; but, for some reason I’ve never been able to actually locate it.

Such a magical resource, that list! I’m here 6+ months, and still have yet to see it. I must know what all the hype is about! 🤔

Can you please lead me to it?? 🙏

PS: (All that was totally stated with tongue-in-cheek. I didn’t mean it to be condescending. I was merely hoping to make you smile.) . 😊

 

[tangoecho311]

I hear about that list, I know about that list; but, for some reason I’ve never been able to actually locate it.

Such a magical resource, that list! I’m here 6+ months, and still have yet to see it. I must know what all the hype is about! 🤔

Can you please lead me to it?? 🙏

PS: (All that was totally stated with tongue-in-cheek. I didn’t mean it to be condescending. I was merely hoping to make you smile.) . 😊

Its hyperlinked in his signature

 

[milos]

I hear about that list, I know about that list; but, for some reason I’ve never been able to actually locate it.

Such a magical resource, that list! I’m here 6+ months, and still have yet to see it. I must know what all the hype is about! 🤔

Can you please lead me to it?? 🙏

PS: (All that was totally stated with tongue-in-cheek. I didn’t mean it to be condescending. I was merely hoping to make you smile.) . 😊

just look into my signature or even better find any post by @dionysos himself and follow his signature to the list directly

 

[milos]

PS: (All that was totally stated with tongue-in-cheek. I didn’t mean it to be condescending. I was merely hoping to make you smile.) . 😊

yes it made me LOL actually! 🤣

 

[moonpies4misfits]

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[Tyrone Biggums]

Im sorry I am late to the party here. I dont get onto this platform as much as I would like but i have been in the peptide community for the last 2 years or so… if it looks like i only post when it comes to leaving negative reviews or warnings I apologize. I generally sit back and read and when i see something that i believe needs to be said because there is a misconception or info i believe needs to get out, then i say it. One of the things that matters the most to me is safety and harm reduction in our community. With that comes honesty and integrity, and I dont mean a rep trying to hide his identity by saying hes a female. I hate to break it to you all, but Im not the real Tyrone Biggums. But when someone in the USA is lying to you saying that they are literally a factory and manufacturing peptides in China and then you find out hes chilling in Illinois and is just sourcing from vendors the same way we are, you dont think that info needs to get out? I will not deny that his products are testing really well. The test reports speak for themselves. But if hes willing to double down on his lies and tell you he used to produce covid vaccines and now pivoted to peptides, than what else is he willing to lie about? It is important to me that the information be relayed to the community and then you can do whatever you want with it. Its your comfort level.

And its important to say that i have ZERO affiliation with any discord server, gb server, domestic vendor,etc. I am just another member of this community who is passionate about peptides and my health. That is it. I do have gb servers and vendors that i prefer over others but that is personal preference. I am always available and open for discussion about any topics so feel free to reach out to me.

 

[noteablequotable]

@Tyrone Biggums You have absolutely nothing to feel bad about. The potential deception that's been highlighted is important and something everyone should be aware of. I personally think lying is a hazard of this industry and generally less important than the motives behind the lies and the impact those lies have on potential customers.

If Nexaph continues to supply quality products (verified through testing) and provides good customer service I'm not sure what else we can reasonably demand from them.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Speaking of the @dionysos vendors list, despite the name, Shanghai Nexa has proven to be based in the USA, so consider moving it off the overseas list?

 

[milos]

Speaking of the @dionysos vendors list, despite the name, Shanghai Nexa has proven to be based in the USA, so consider moving it off the overseas list?

I really don't know his stance on this at the moment. But if true, they can be even classified under a whole new category - domestic whole sellers.

 

[Bacchus]

Im sorry I am late to the party here. I dont get onto this platform as much as I would like but i have been in the peptide community for the last 2 years or so… if it looks like i only post when it comes to leaving negative reviews or warnings I apologize. I generally sit back and read and when i see something that i believe needs to be said because there is a misconception or info i believe needs to get out, then i say it. One of the things that matters the most to me is safety and harm reduction in our community. With that comes honesty and integrity, and I dont mean a rep trying to hide his identity by saying hes a female. I hate to break it to you all, but Im not the real Tyrone Biggums. But when someone in the USA is lying to you saying that they are literally a factory and manufacturing peptides in China and then you find out hes chilling in Illinois and is just sourcing from vendors the same way we are, you dont think that info needs to get out? I will not deny that his products are testing really well. The test reports speak for themselves. But if hes willing to double down on his lies and tell you he used to produce covid vaccines and now pivoted to peptides, than what else is he willing to lie about? It is important to me that the information be relayed to the community and then you can do whatever you want with it. Its your comfort level.

And its important to say that i have ZERO affiliation with any discord server, gb server, domestic vendor,etc. I am just another member of this community who is passionate about peptides and my health. That is it. I do have gb servers and vendors that i prefer over others but that is personal preference. I am always available and open for discussion about any topics so feel free to reach out to me.

To be fair, the term factory is used rather loosely in this market in general 🤷‍♂️

It could be a storage facility with $20k of equipment. Or it could be a pharma/gmp licensed facility. Or a reseller/storage unit claiming to be a lab.

One thing I can say for sure, is that the lowest price range you find - is definitely not from a pharma facility, most likely not a gmp licensed one either. (If any vendor would like to prove me wrong, I’ll hop on a flight to china on a 5 day notice. We don’t mind expanding our network horizon and knowledge).

Does it have to be in order to be of decent quality - nope. But just that a seller claims to be a lab, doesn’t guarantee a high officially licensed standard.

You could easily make your own lab in the us with a 30k budget if you have a good source for raws and some know-how. If that would be a high quality lab is an entirely different question 🤷‍♂️

If you buy from a lab or a reseller doesn’t really matter (we do both for various products) - what matters is the quality of the raw source and the lab lyophilzing your shizzle.

And consistent quality and use of source(s)

As long as the quality of the product is good, does it truly matter if they pose as a lab?

I wouldn’t consider that any worse than a lot of things vendors get a hall pass on that could be questionable integrity-wise.

That’s just my opinion though 🤷‍♂️

 

[brentm]

And consistent quality and use of source(s)

As long as the quality of the product is good, does it truly matter if they pose as a lab?

I wouldn’t consider that any worse than a lot of things vendors get a hall pass on that could be questionable integrity-wise.

That’s just my opinion though 🤷‍♂️

Reminds me of Breaking Bad. They started in an RV and then went to a professional lab. Only real difference was quantity. Walt was able to keep quality nearly the same in both.

 

[Bacchus]

Completely possible, but

Reminds me of Breaking Bad. They started in an RV and then went to a professional lab. Only real difference was quantity. Walt was able to keep quality nearly the same in both.

higher probability of error/sloppiness in an unregulated facility or smaller operation. It’s 100% up to the integrity of the lab worker(s) in that case.

Maybe skipping 30min of cleaning is worth it to catch a tv show 🤷‍♂️

It could also be pristine, consistency over time is the inly real proof, as no licensed facility will be willing to slap their license on a grey/black market product (i think).

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Thats the beauty of America… you have your opinion and I have mine and what you choose to do with it is entirely up to you. For me personally, i will choose to do business with a vendor/server that I have a level of trust with. Trust me, I have bought from some that people would say i shouldnt. I respect everyones opinion and thats what helps me evaluate whats best for me

 

[zpped]

Do you mean the monthly posts? I've seen those but they don't appear to test the same products from the same vendors each month. Consistency is part of what makes the testing valuable.

If there is something else I haven't stumbled on over at Peppy's then I'd say it's not quite what I think is needed here. The testing needs to be accessible enough that it can inform decision making for people with the least knowledge and fewest connections who feel comfortable spending $15-25 on a report.

I think the fact that whatever is going on at Peppy's had no influence on this conversation, or the one about Zhejiang Zhaobo Technology where @Vacation4us narrowly avoided being scammed is really telling.

Zhejiang Zhaobo Technology Co. Ltd

Apr 24, 2024

Hello,

I conducted research on various companies to obtain pricing information for different peptides.
I requested quotes for four different peptides and observed a significant price range.
In my investigation, Zhejiang Zhaobo Technology Co. Ltd emerged as the provider with the lowest price.
Has anyone had any experience dealing with them?

They claim to be manufacturers and not to be traders, which could explain their competitive pricing.

• Sheldor
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I'm talking about the place where those monthly posts are coming from. They test whatever the members want to test, so come join us. And at a lower price then you think. You just have to hang around a few weeks before you can start the access process.

Also Jano has repeatedly claimed that heavy metal testing is a waste of money, but he's happy to take your money 🙂

As for the ZZT conversation, the peppys vendor hub covers that.

This forum is a great starting place for people and really important information does get filtered up here if you don't want to get involved.

 

[Semamomma]

Its hyperlinked in his signature

Oh, well, HELL!! (Me <—- idiot)

I guess I deserved that. 🙄

Thank you!! 👍

 

[Semamomma]

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You know what?? You’re right. They don’t!
Thank you!! 😊

 

[dionysos]

Speaking of the @dionysos vendors list, despite the name, Shanghai Nexa has proven to be based in the USA, so consider moving it off the overseas list?

I really don't know his stance on this at the moment. But if true, they can be even classified under a whole new category - domestic whole sellers.

Once I see some indication that Shanghai Nexa Pharmaceuticals is marketing directly to US researchers I will add them to the GLP1 Vendors US datasheet.
Their entry will remain on the GLP1 Vendors China datasheet.

 

[fetefille]

You know what?? You’re right. They don’t!
Thank you!! 😊

Not sure what kind of phone you have, but if you turn landscape on an iPhone, they appear like magic

 

[moonpies4misfits]

Not sure what kind of phone you have, but if you turn landscape on an iPhone, they appear like magic

Well shit, looks like that works on my Android too, but I hate holding my phone in landscape. It'll be a lot quicker than running over to @dionysos profile though 😂