Nexaph First Purchase - Retatrutide

[LumpySpace]

The sterility tests used most commonly (and that have produced recent fails) are total aerobic microbial count (TAMC) and total yeast and mold count (TYMC). Many of the recent arguments around sterility have been based on the idea that a "Pass" on these tests does not guarantee a 'sterile' product; with that said, there is no argument that a "Fail" means it's not sterile.

There were a string of recent tirz Fails across multiple vendors, which were pretty surprising and have led to speculation it was perhaps contamination of the raws which could have been sourced from the same vendor. No way to know that, though, it's just speculation.

You are most likely right that researchers have been using non-sterile peps in many instances without knowing; a small amount of bacteria / yeast / mold is probably going to be easily destroyed by our immune system, though I certainly wouldn't want to be injecting myself with it consistently over time.

Thank you!

So my understanding at this point that this a quasi-qualitative/quantitative test for non-specific microorganisms. However, since it doesn't tell you what type of microorganism present I do not quite see value in it. What is the threshold? Who determines it? What is an acceptable number and what is not, especially, not knowing what exactly one is dealing with.

It just seems like a total fad to me that makes additional revenue for the testing companies. I see no value in it especially since majority of people here know pretty well that paying so little for the GLPs comes with a certain risk. I would be more concerned if there was a specific microorganism they were testing these for, amount of which in the sample would cause a trip to an emergency room.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks again though!

 

[CtrlAltDel]

I've just received my kit of 12mg Retatrutide from Shanghai Nexa Pharmaceuticals.
Ordered Monday morning at 8:19am and delivered in 3 days and 4 hours from their US depot.

EXCELLENT packaging and the KIT LABEL COMPLETE WITH JANO COA HYPERLINK !
Use your phone camera on the jpg - it WORKS QUICKLY.

This is a first from a Chinese Vendor in my experience and a trend that I hope and expect to develop quickly.

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I just looked for the price list and it’s not showing Reta on their site

 

[moonpies4misfits]

I am somewhat new to this and hope my finding the other hashtag is helpful to those looking for more info.

Just an FYI, you can always leave a comment with the correct hashtag and I believe it will pick up in search results.

 

[meowTime]

I just looked for the price list and it’s not showing Reta on their site

Per the telegram reta is in production and will be available in 10-12 days

 

[PepOhio]

It just seems like a total fad to me that makes additional revenue for the testing companies. I see no value in it especially since majority of people here know pretty well that paying so little for the GLPs comes with a certain risk.

Don't necessarily disagree...but a fad can become a selling point for companies wanting to set themselves above the competition and this can in turn possibly get an entire industry to improve their product to compete
For me it gives us another insight/data point into the quality of a company's processes and whether they work to prevent comtaminations of their products.
But at the end of the day your right we all roll the dice to a certain degree with everything we buy from home or abroad.
Lots of people thought it was perfectly safe to buy deli meats at the grocery here in the US, but Boars Head proved them wrong in the last 6 months. Plus hundreds of other examples every year in the US at least.

It may end up being a short term fad but I hope it pushes the industry to continue to improve!

 

[meowTime]

Don't necessarily disagree...but a fad can become a selling point for companies wanting to set themselves above the competition and this can in turn possibly get an entire industry to improve their product to compete
For me it gives us another insight/data point into the quality of a company's processes and whether they work to prevent comtaminations of their products.
But at the end of the day your right we all roll the dice to a certain degree with everything we buy from home or abroad.
Lots of people thought it was perfectly safe to buy deli meats at the grocery here in the US, but Boars Head proved them wrong in the last 6 months. Plus hundreds of other examples every year in the US at least.

It may end up being a short term fad but I hope it pushes the industry to continue to improve!

It's also possible the raws they get aren't sterile in the first place. And we know only a few companies are actually making the raws.

 

[PepOhio]

It's also possible the raws they get aren't sterile in the first place. And we know only a few companies are actually making the raws.

Agree.
And if the companies KNOW we are going to be testing the finished product it would eventually push them to do more testing on the raws they are receiving, If they are NOT already testing them

 

[QueenP]

Per the telegram reta is in production and will be available in 10-12 days

There is also a GB organizer on discord who is running a GB sale for R12.

 

[dionysos]

I just looked for the price list and it’s not showing Reta on their site

 

[JohnnyGobbs]

The fact that I haven’t seen any crazy issues on any of these grey GLP’s is pretty reassuring in general. I figure there’s been… I don’t know, millions of injections total? And I haven’t seen like any crazy injection site infection pics or anything. I’ve only been on the scene like 3 months and I know hearsay isn’t science but things seem pretty controlled and safe overall whoever is making these things at the source level.

 

[Tomes]

Thank you!

So my understanding at this point that this a quasi-qualitative/quantitative test for non-specific microorganisms. However, since it doesn't tell you what type of microorganism present I do not quite see value in it. What is the threshold? Who determines it? What is an acceptable number and what is not, especially, not knowing what exactly one is dealing with.

It just seems like a total fad to me that makes additional revenue for the testing companies. I see no value in it especially since majority of people here know pretty well that paying so little for the GLPs comes with a certain risk. I would be more concerned if there was a specific microorganism they were testing these for, amount of which in the sample would cause a trip to an emergency room.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks again though!

Personally, after seeing the moldy little petri dishes that developed in some of the tests, I think there is value in this basic type of test. It makes me feel good to know if it's a Pass, because that is ruling out all kinds of contamination. It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing. I think the important thing is for everyone to understand what these tests do and do not tell us, and then act accordingly - both in terms of participating in testing, and in making decisions based on test results. Plenty of people are still injecting the products that failed the sterility tests, though some are now filtering them (which is a whole other rabbit hole).

 

[Tomes]

I just looked for the price list and it’s not showing Reta on their site

They sold out, Cain has a telegram group and said it should be back in about a week, it's in production now along with Cagri.

 

[Tomes]

So Peppys is definitely a navigational challenge. The #spc thread shows a fail for #shanghaipharma with test by Jano. I happened to find a post under #nexapharm that shows a second test was done by an individual from the same GB. She sent her vial(s) individually to Peptide Test and the test passed. The CoA for that test is actually posted there. I am somewhat new to this and hope my finding the other hashtag is helpful to those looking for more info. Thus it appears that within the GB there were inconsistent results.

Yes this was a different type of test from a different test vendor, and created even more controversy. Be glad that you missed the drama.
I think it's good for people to be aware of sterility fails and to act accordingly. I'm still planning to try out Nexa because the rep is responsive and the ordering is easy, I appreciate the batch-specific COAs and the reported quick ship. Seems way better than QSC who I have to send a message to 5 times before usually giving up

EDIT: I was young and stupid

 

[tangoecho311]

Can you share the vial dimensions? I just placed an order with Nexa and am wanting to order a Niimbot label maker and labels so I can stay organized. But I have no idea what size labels I'd need.

 

[PurpleCatFur]

Can you share the vial dimensions? I just placed an order with Nexa and am wanting to order a Niimbot label maker and labels so I can stay organized. But I have no idea what size labels I'd need.

The 12x40 that come w/ the niimbot D11 (assuming thats what you got) should be fine, I like the clear round ones for the tops too. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C5SN4J1T

 

[tangoecho311]

The 12x40 that come w/ the niimbot D11 (assuming thats what you got) should be fine, I like the clear round ones for the tops too. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C5SN4J1T

THANK YOU!!!! I didn't even think about the tops. That's a great idea

 

[dionysos]

The 12x40 that come w/ the niimbot D11 (assuming thats what you got) should be fine, I like the clear round ones for the tops too. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C5SN4J1T

Thanks for the useful link @PurpleCatFur !

 

[PepOhio]

The fact that I haven’t seen any crazy issues on any of these grey GLP’s is pretty reassuring in general. I figure there’s been… I don’t know, millions of injections total? And I haven’t seen like any crazy injection site infection pics or anything. I’ve only been on the scene like 3 months and I know hearsay isn’t science but things seem pretty controlled and safe overall whoever is making these things at the source level.

It wasn't "crazy injection site infection" I guess but here is a link to a couple posts from me back in July talking about injection site issues. At the time I thought it might have been the BAC water but now I believe it was most likely non sterile contaminated peptides. I have now used more than a dozen vials of various peptides and this was the only one to ever be an issue. It caused huge burning/stinging and injection site inflamation/welts that lasted for 3+ days. I used cortisone cream on it to make it almost bearable. I had been using research peptides for a month or two by then and had never had this before or since. I wish I had taken pics for you.
Because money was tight at the time and I couldn't afford to buy more (I was getting domestic single vials at time), I refused to throw it out and used it for weeks...
Figured since the swelling eventually went down I would survive
https://glp1forum.com/threads/noob-question.639/post-5369
https://glp1forum.com/threads/noob-question.639/post-5379

The following link just covers my procedure for testing BAC before using each time...in case anyone is interested. I would also test the mixed peptide for PH if it stings/burns. I am pretty sure that PH issues would be much shorter in time than this was...which is why I am pretty darn sure it was contaminated.
https://glp1forum.com/threads/amopeptide.359/post-8263

 

[PepOhio]

Order Update...

Ordered GHK-cu on Thursday Sept 19 @ 1:25pm
Shipped out that night....
Received package on Saturday Sept 21 @ 11:33am
Soooooo........ ~46 hours from completing order to delivery to Ohio

Great packaging
Only negative at least until RS tests it is that the QR code takes you to their website and it says

Coming Soon
Testing Coming Soon
Please check back at another time

So don't care for the fact it directs to their website instead of a 3rd party independant site and also the fact that the test isn't already there...but these are minor complaints to me. Sure it will be even better moving forward.

 

[Tomes]

Order Update...

Ordered GHK-cu on Thursday Sept 19 @ 1:25pm
Shipped out that night....
Received package on Saturday Sept 21 @ 11:33am
Soooooo........ ~46 hours from completing order to delivery to Ohio

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Great packaging
Only negative at least until RS tests it is that the QR code takes you to their website and it says

Coming Soon
Testing Coming Soon
Please check back at another time

So don't care for the fact it directs to their website instead of a 3rd party independant site and also the fact that the test isn't already there...but these are minor complaints to me. Sure it will be even better moving forward.

Ha ok that is good to know. Hopefully they actually put the tests up not too long after. I'm not surprised it's on their site and not a third party, but you can always verify it by looking it up on Jano (not sure about the other test providers but I assume it's the same). I have the feeling they've prioritized testing for GLP-1s and cagri, since those are probably most popular.