dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
I Can Only AGREE with you, Pep !
Munchin' on a lil bit o' that cake RIGHT NOW TODAY, in fact. 😬
Nexaph First Purchase - Retatrutide
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Munchin' on a lil bit o' that cake RIGHT NOW TODAY, in fact. 😬
JohnnyGobbs
New Member
Wait did they restock the Reta and sell out again since the last time or is the situation the same and we’re still waiting for the restock? (Haven’t been on here in several days)
moonpies4misfits
GLP-1 Specialist
Still waiting. Should restock first week of October
On The Raven Nest on peptidechat, under “Ravens open buys”, they have a pre-order for the R12 @ $240 including domestic shipping and random testing (pay now) opened thru this Sunday 9/29. After that, it will be regular price plus shipping.
rogertheveggie
New Member
I got my batch of several peps yesterday. Easy ordering and payment on the website, and fast shipping (ordered Sunday, arrived Wed with 2-day shipping). Everything was well packaged. I like the labels and the QR codes for the test results. I got BPC and TB, among others. Those were pinned and are definitely effective. The only gripe I have is that the BPC didn’t have a vacuum. And the lab reports for the TB and Tesa I received show under filling, which is surprising given that everyone else that has posted their peps have showed overfilling. I’ll be ordering again from them though.
Edit: To be fair to Nexa, they have these reports posted on the product pages of their website, so at least they’re transparent and make results that aren’t ideal public too.
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Lilith
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Well…. maybe only half a slice of cake these days. 😂
dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
Nexa Retatrutide works as advertised for me!
Dionysos
That's great to know.... I am buying, but not trying... still on Tirze 🙂
I posted in their telegram asking about their failed sterility test and members in the community were quick to say that @exploitedworkerbee is out to get them and tried to discredit it all around. They even said he's (assuming gender) a vendor and out to slander others by faking tests ... which I doubt is remotely true.
Cain did say the test was (obviously) legit after I asked point blank, and told everyone to use filters if they were worried.
Cain did say the test was (obviously) legit after I asked point blank, and told everyone to use filters if they were worried.
touringsedan
New Member
Just completed my first order with Nexa for Tesa/Ipa. Couldn't be easier and they take credit cards. Shipped and was in UPS hands in 3 hours from my payment. I will update after received and if I can get the testing group to support a test of it.
It would be really helpful if @exploitedworkerbee (and/or anyone else) could give more details about any issues surrounding them, as it is extremely important for us to have both positive & negative feedback, especially since so far what I have read here about them is all praise.
For the failed sterility test itself - we already know that many vendors fail sometimes and from what I saw it was actually just a low level of contamination (but with potentially very harmful bacteria), but what is more alarming is the vendors response, we expect transparency and responsibility from a good vendor and not name calling (Hi Tracy) or even conspiracy theories etc. when an issue arises.
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https://thinksteroids.com/community...beatable-prices.134426803/page-4#post-3342144 it's all on d1scord too
There seems to be a coordinated effort to slander them. And not from anyone who has ever purchased from them. Just rando people popping up on Discord, Telegram, Meso and other forums. At first I thought these were complaints from people who have purchased from them and have been burned. But that is not the case. There are dozens of vendors. If I am not comfortable buying from one I will find another. If I had a verifiable issue that I wanted to share to prevent others from being burned I would do that. Otherwise I am not wasting my time slandering a vendor when I have no first hand knowledge of their business practices. I am not sure a perfect trustworthy vendor exists in this market we all purchase from. So it seems odd to me the level of effort that is being levied against this one.
why are we censoring discord
and discord has many servers, so you will need to be specific or give screenshots. If someone doesn't have access to that server they can't see anything.
dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
WE are not censoring Discord. Peppys policy is that none of their content may be reproduced ANYWHERE on the web.
My question to @Gwenhwyfar227 was basically a gentle reminder that she risked being banned from Peppys Server posting that screenshot.
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the problem is there has been such a web of lies going for such a long time that it's really hard to explain it without sitting here typing up a ton of inside baseball for hours which i am not going to do. simply the fact that this guy just last night got caught lying about the fact that he is in fact a well known US-based peptide accessories seller masquerading as a china-based peptide supplier with factories in china and the US should be enough. he admitted to this only after evidence was presented. this comes after months of him and his associates being caught in lie after lie about their products, sources, and identities. it's not hard to act in a truthful manner but this person doesn't do that.
anyway, you have been cautioned. if you choose to ignore this and buy peptides from someone with demonstrably poor ethical behavior, that's your decision to make. i don't have an agenda besides a general desire to call out bad behavior by vendors when i come across it, which happened here. if you ever see someone accusing me of being a paid shill (which @Cain_SPC did just yesterday before he was exposed to be lying yet again) you can rest assured that person is projecting.
I really am trying to understand all this better. I AM newer to all of this and doing my best to follow. Still lots of questions.
FYI...I made one purchase from Nexaph in the last week and they appeared to be professional with quick delivery and product appears to be what was ordered...I do understand this may not be the COMPLETE picture though.
@exploitedworkerbee has posted about them and I know that @ZippityDooDah gave him moderator status while he is gone so that has a lot of weight with me. If you don't wish to write the book, which I completely understand but maybe you or someone else can point us to where all this drama is playing out. I admit I spend 98+% of my peptide time on this forum because the other places with restrictions and maddening interfaces and stuff make me pull my hair out.
@sf022754 linked to the thinksteroids.com post above that appears to be a back and forth d**k measuring contest and accusations with no actual links to anything additional. Also he is a new member with only 12 posts and appears to restrict my ability to easily see his other posts to see any themes in his posts.
@Tyrone Biggums also only has 11 posts in the forum that are mostly mentioning problems with various vendors. But he has also been given Research Expert status on the forum. In his post in the vendor section he says, "the owner of EZ pens has admitted he created this fake chinese company" on discord server. Discord beat me down for being in the QSC forum... could you point me in the right direction to see this info?
https://glp1forum.com/threads/spc-nexaph-com-current-promotion-for-telegram-users.1018/post-13988
Can someone tell us where we can find this discord conversation or post or link so we would be able to read/follow it for ourselves.
Would be very interested in any other suggestions to look at to be able to understand this all better.
@Cain_SPC your website claims you are "Based in Shanghai" is this the case or have you only sub-contracted manufacturing there? Can you give a clear concise answer on your start and ongoing business as a seller. If you truely want to build trust with the community I think this would be a good start by explaining your company's evolution?
I will admit to being somewhat confused by some of this. It does appear that many people felt SPC lied about what they were doing. Possibly participating in GB's/purchasing from chinese suppliers then reselling as their own product. I am having a hard time figuring out even if true (other than the lying) how this is different than ALL the US based sellers maybe doing some testing and slapping THEIR labels on the product and selling it. Or grocery stores, Amazon, Walmart that have 3rd party manufacturers make their "house brands" and sell them as their own.
FYI...I made one purchase from Nexaph in the last week and they appeared to be professional with quick delivery and product appears to be what was ordered...I do understand this may not be the COMPLETE picture though.
@exploitedworkerbee has posted about them and I know that @ZippityDooDah gave him moderator status while he is gone so that has a lot of weight with me. If you don't wish to write the book, which I completely understand but maybe you or someone else can point us to where all this drama is playing out. I admit I spend 98+% of my peptide time on this forum because the other places with restrictions and maddening interfaces and stuff make me pull my hair out.
@sf022754 linked to the thinksteroids.com post above that appears to be a back and forth d**k measuring contest and accusations with no actual links to anything additional. Also he is a new member with only 12 posts and appears to restrict my ability to easily see his other posts to see any themes in his posts.
@Tyrone Biggums also only has 11 posts in the forum that are mostly mentioning problems with various vendors. But he has also been given Research Expert status on the forum. In his post in the vendor section he says, "the owner of EZ pens has admitted he created this fake chinese company" on discord server. Discord beat me down for being in the QSC forum... could you point me in the right direction to see this info?
https://glp1forum.com/threads/spc-nexaph-com-current-promotion-for-telegram-users.1018/post-13988
So...
Who is the owner of EZ Pen...Is that the same as EZP Supply?Can someone tell us where we can find this discord conversation or post or link so we would be able to read/follow it for ourselves.
Would be very interested in any other suggestions to look at to be able to understand this all better.
@Cain_SPC your website claims you are "Based in Shanghai" is this the case or have you only sub-contracted manufacturing there? Can you give a clear concise answer on your start and ongoing business as a seller. If you truely want to build trust with the community I think this would be a good start by explaining your company's evolution?
I will admit to being somewhat confused by some of this. It does appear that many people felt SPC lied about what they were doing. Possibly participating in GB's/purchasing from chinese suppliers then reselling as their own product. I am having a hard time figuring out even if true (other than the lying) how this is different than ALL the US based sellers maybe doing some testing and slapping THEIR labels on the product and selling it. Or grocery stores, Amazon, Walmart that have 3rd party manufacturers make their "house brands" and sell them as their own.
Pepsicle
Another Cantides Alt
Hmmnnn. I’m seeing a pattern here. Collective effort by USA single vial sellers and their affiliates to slander new USA companies and group buys especially vendors selling cheaper kits in the USA. They gather with their alts on a particular server on discord. Same set of people. The Tyrone guy has been going on every peptide forum to “out” Nexaph. This was done recently to another seller on here too and you all ran with it. Disgusting
tangoecho311
GLP-1 Enthusiast
If anyone bought the RNS T10 and would like to go in on some testing, let me know as I am considering sending off a vial. This is all kind of insane. And it's really hard on those of us who haven't been here long. It's hard to tell what's going on when you don't have the time or resources to go back months on a forum to read everything
Damn good point Cantides lady. Those companies charge for one vial what other companies sell kits for.
Yea that's why I am asking questions...These comments being made are just not in alignment with what my first purchase experience was or what I am hearing from many other people on here. I just spent 2 hours reading SPC's entire telegram channel trying to understand it all and where everyone is coming from.
Not sure who you mean by the "other seller" but the main one that came to mind when you said it was the whole Cantides thing. I see that one a little differently...If you do mean them, they came in screaming and ranting without making ANY effort to be a productive part of the community as a whole. Personally they could be 100% right and because of the way they acted I would have never bought from them even at a LOWER price. That is completely different than the very professional way @Cain_SPC has communicated on here with us.
If you mean someone else please share who and I would love to look back and review what you are saying.
A lot of these other forums and boards, etc, don't sit right with me. So many claim to want to spread awareness of the alleged lies coming from SPC, but not a single one provides real evidence.
I don't understand claiming to want to spread awareness but keeping everything under such secrecy, slapping on rules against sharing information to outside platforms, requiring rigorous entry restrictions to channels, etc.
There's so many places where people can discuss this information freely, how am I supposed to trust information from groups I can't even see or access.
Pepsicle
Another Cantides Alt
Yes Cantides, I didn’t just come here screaming and ranting like they would want you to believe here. The drama started on peppys from USA resellers AR and Bloom, then over at this same discord that the Nexaph issue is going on. Most people didn’t see that part. I followed the whole thing and it’s crazy.
Till now I don’t see the proof of all the allegations spread about the business. It was one lie after the other on discord until she came here to rightfully rant. If Cain wants to be professional about people sabotaging his business, that’s his perogative, and sincerely, he doesn’t have much to lose as he’s already established his business via Raven with thousands of loyal customers.
zpped
GLP-1 Specialist
I post here a lot, but most of the inside baseball does not happen on this forum.
I've seen the evidence they are talking about. I saw the evidence that Cain and EZP were logging in to this forum from the same IP and I saw them admit to it on discord.
I understand your hesitation to just believe people. I've said nice things about nexaph, but had also started getting suspicious things I was seeing but with no evidence. I'm not a vendor or connected to any of them.
I can't point you directly to the evidence but I promise its there for you to read if you go through the process of getting deeper access.
If you're saying that you are convinced... That's big.
zpped
GLP-1 Specialist
There is absolutely no question in my mind that EZP and Cain are the same person. Nexaph is a fake company run by an American.
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JohnnyGobbs
New Member
The idea of even trying to get real clarity on grey market powder pucks from China seems so futile with the alts, little transparency and overall grey-market grifter freakshow going on all over the place. As I pin my Cantydes reta nightcap … I say… ignorance is bliss lol.
That’s the part I don’t get—why not just be the American co undercutting the others and scooping up the business? I haven’t gone searching for his confession yet, I have to see if he said why he did it.
Pepsicle
Another Cantides Alt
I wonder how dionysos is going to label Nexaph (his favourite vendor)on his shit spreadsheet now😬 He’s been fangirling Nexaph and his beloved pink Reta all week. lol. Also yet to update underdosing by the insane Aminos Research that he’s been known to promote. Scammer and sketchy is reserved for a few I guess. Without a single proof I might add. Madness
possibly because it is far less visible than the 'big' US vendors who may increasingly become targets to get shut down. more possibly because it created a double mark up opportunity - whatever he's buying in bulk marked up to his "chinese vendor" price and then marked up further to the GB price offered via the discord server that is partnering with him
zpped
GLP-1 Specialist
It's in the glorious gaggle if you know what that is (without saying the full name). He said to protect himself, which makes since. (doesn't make it ok) I absolutely wouldn't want the attention that business would bring. And he was terrible at covering his tracks.
I also want to speak up in defense of Tyrone since someone questioned him. He's definitely one of the most fair people I've seen around. Doesn't sling accusations.
Leduku4
New Member
lol, Cant*des. The drama did start on Peppys, yes. But for context, they came into the community as a super lean startup without any tests in their actual name. And got eaten alive because this was far below the standard most had gotten used to.
@dionysos is a gem around here, and I appreciate his contributions, spreadsheets and all. I think many people were enamoured by Nexaph, and AR because they know/knew how to market their products. If you analyse the public test reports you can clearly see there are literally a handful of actual mfg’ers. The purity and actual dosage amounts clearly give it away that most sellers are finishers fighting for better pricing by shifting units. And in turn you can then infer even the Chinese vendors are doing the same thing marketing a brand to ensure repeat sales. 🤷
Edit: thinking about it further and in response to the last posts above, I would venture that Nexaph is quite literally a middle man, operating on thin margins for relabelled peptides from another finger offsetting losses by selling the periphery - vials, pens, filters etc
Some time ago here when we try to evaluate a new vendor, we just collected all positive and negative reviews from actual customers, 3rd party tests, and try to verify / double check facts, based on that @dionysos later compiled his vendor list and write there all good & bad info he was aware of.
Just because someone did 1 order from them and it came OK, it doesn't mean there is not someone out there who has some serious issues with them and its what I would like to know without taking any sides, and we should all be open to that. No vendor is perfect. We need to know the truth and be open minded.
Just because someone did 1 order from them and it came OK, it doesn't mean there is not someone out there who has some serious issues with them and its what I would like to know without taking any sides, and we should all be open to that. No vendor is perfect. We need to know the truth and be open minded.
I have purchased directly from them and participated in the RNS GBs. Nothing but amazing customer service and great product. These people that like to slander other businesses have their own agenda to promote who their favorites are and their kickbacks. There are many companies out there. Research with whoever you feel safer with. It’s not a lack of options. I would trust this one versus most of them out there any day, but that is just my humble opinion.
zpped
GLP-1 Specialist
By all means. But don't give any company your loyalty. They aren't your friend and when multiple people tell you there is evidence they are lying to you, maybe you should take that into consideration. Or don't, it's not like anyone is accusing them of selling fake products.
I have purchased directly from them and participated in the RNS GBs. Nothing but amazing customer service and great product. These people that like to slander other businesses have their own agenda to promote who their favorites are and their kickbacks. There are many companies out there. Research with whoever you feel safer with. It’s not a lack of options. I would trust this one of them out there
I personally like to keep my options opened. At the end of the day we should be working with multiple different vendors because they have different products to offer and not all of them carry the same stuff.
Chizikitide-1977
GLP-1 Enthusiast
So I was considering buying from this vendor a couple of weeks ago, but decided against it after seeing this post from Zippity.
https://glp1forum.com/threads/familiar-with-this-manufacturer-….876/#post-8586
I have continued to dig and while I still don’t have all the facts (and never will) I’ve seen enough red flags to see there is some real merit to the various complaints people have made here and elsewhere. I have continued to watch from the sidelines and I am frankly very disappointed with the accusations that there is a coordinated smear campaign going on. Those that think there is a smear campaign going on do you think that Zippity is in on it too?
Keep in mind the grey market peptide world is basically the Wild West right now and there are a lot of questionable characters out there looking to take advantage of desperate people, and in that type of environment trust should inherently be low. Vendors are not your friends and it is my opinion that communities like this one should focus on protecting the people buying from them over protecting the vendors business interests. That should mean creating an environment where all members are encouraged to raise any and all red flags they see (even if they don’t have complete information yet, or can’t share due to bs rules from other boards) and not be written off as creating unnecessary drama, or worse be accused of some conspiracy. If someone has seen some red flags from a vendor, we should welcome and encourage them to bring it up here to inform the community, because sharing may well prevent those that are less experienced from getting scammed or from buying unsafe products. It is my opinion that boards like this one should be hard on vendors, especially new vendors. The bar should be high if we are going to trust a vendor, and it should be the vendors burden to prove themselves
https://glp1forum.com/threads/familiar-with-this-manufacturer-….876/#post-8586
I have continued to dig and while I still don’t have all the facts (and never will) I’ve seen enough red flags to see there is some real merit to the various complaints people have made here and elsewhere. I have continued to watch from the sidelines and I am frankly very disappointed with the accusations that there is a coordinated smear campaign going on. Those that think there is a smear campaign going on do you think that Zippity is in on it too?
Keep in mind the grey market peptide world is basically the Wild West right now and there are a lot of questionable characters out there looking to take advantage of desperate people, and in that type of environment trust should inherently be low. Vendors are not your friends and it is my opinion that communities like this one should focus on protecting the people buying from them over protecting the vendors business interests. That should mean creating an environment where all members are encouraged to raise any and all red flags they see (even if they don’t have complete information yet, or can’t share due to bs rules from other boards) and not be written off as creating unnecessary drama, or worse be accused of some conspiracy. If someone has seen some red flags from a vendor, we should welcome and encourage them to bring it up here to inform the community, because sharing may well prevent those that are less experienced from getting scammed or from buying unsafe products. It is my opinion that boards like this one should be hard on vendors, especially new vendors. The bar should be high if we are going to trust a vendor, and it should be the vendors burden to prove themselves
If it was a coordinated smear campaign it would probably look way worse… So I doubt it.
I would however love to see a seller feedback section. Where posts can not be edited, and buyers are only allowed to post ONE well structured review (which can of course be updated in a later reply, but again in a structured and thorough manner).
It becomes quite messy as soon as 3-4+ users are bashing a vendor in short form messages while the vendor tries to respond, only to be overrun by multiple short replies.
It makes it hard to properly evaluate the situation for the reader, and I’d argue it’s unfortunate both for the vendor and for the users. And quickly just spirals into a “he said she said” where people start piling on with opinions/assumptions and second hand information from random sources.
It’s definitely important for information to be available, but it should at the very least be structured, and preferably have some kind of “proof”. Though supplying any kind of definite evidence is close to impossible in a dispute like this, for both parties 🤷♂️
It's not slander when it's true. Both RNS and SNP are going to keep operating because they have large customer bases. That's fine, but individuals should go in knowing from who and what they are purchasing.
LumpySpace
New Member
Will it help if you guys just spit at each other for a while? Just to get all the hate out? 😀
There is a list of vendors and plenty of reviews here to make a fairly informed decision as to who to buy from.
I had a positive experience buying from both Q and SNP and their product was outstanding. Each has its positives and negatives.
There is a list of vendors and plenty of reviews here to make a fairly informed decision as to who to buy from.
I had a positive experience buying from both Q and SNP and their product was outstanding. Each has its positives and negatives.
tangoecho311
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Same. I ordered from both within the last week. SNP is definitely easier and a one and done. I placed my order and that was it. Received tracking in a couple hours and received my package in 3 business days. With Q I ordered via email. Several steps of back and forth emails. But it was simple enough. I ordered domestic so I'm not concerned about long shipping times. I feel safe enough using SPCs product.
Someone in another forum hit the nail on the head. SPC didn't have to lie. If you have good product and good prices you shouldn't have to. EZP could have just told everyone they had a hookup and were opening up shop. As long as you're testing and being transparent.
I didn't read back far enough to uncover the personal drama.
What's very concerning is I haven't found any real answers about the photos of the liquid tirz with SPCs labels. I won't be ordering from them again until that is clearly explained.
Chizikitide-1977
GLP-1 Enthusiast
It does, however I don't see this as a bad thing as it forces less experienced users to do their due diligence or simply skip the vendor in favor of another if they aren't willing to invest the time. Both of theses will ultimately cut down on the number of people getting scammed or buying unsafe products, which is still a net positive.
I'm sure you realize internet message boards just don't work that way. It's not in their design, especially forums that were developed to have minimal moderation like this one. And while everyone should come forward with as much info as possible, alot of times people can't offer the complete picture, but know enough to know something is off. I don't want people to hold back in these situations, as long as they are sharing the info to help others in the community.
peptideusername
Moderator
You’re going to find out some funny things calling them here to deal with this.
That was for spam that was removed
moonpies4misfits
GLP-1 Specialist
There was a spammer posting links all over the forum to a site selling a bunch of designer street drugs, some not yet illegal but a few on the list were Schedule I and Schedule II.
I really do not care if they lie about who they are, where they get the product, where it ships from, who their past associates were or are, etc. What I care about is that it’s cheap, safe and passes the Jano test. What I have seen all over the internet is people complaining about everything except the things that matter to me. Most of them were never customers of this vendor. But they keep beating their drum nonstop on multiple locations online. It seems a little overboard to me. In the last 6 weeks I have purchased from SPC/Nexaph, ASC, Amo, SYR, and JY Pharma. All great prices, all test well, all communicate well, and all ship quickly. This is what I care about. Lie to me but give me stuff.
How do you know that what you received is what is shown on the tests you’re using to evaluate a product? That’s why it matters. Liars cannot be trusted, and unless you’re getting everything tested yourself then you’re putting a lot of faith in a supplier when it comes to ugl injectables. Suppliers get busted all the time falsifying tests or recycling good tests on known bad batches, and someone with a demonstrated lack of honesty seems to be to be much more likely to do that with the stuff you’re shooting into your subcutaneous fat. What do you think this guy will do when he takes delivery of 5000 kits of tirz that he discovers is marginal in some way? Eat the huge loss or sell them with tests from a different batch? I can’t say for sure but my money is not on eating the loss given the track record of unethical behavior.
It’s not like it’s hard to find vendors that aren’t known liars so I fail to see how anyone could decide that these guys are the way to go.
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