We're Bashing SRY this time.

[brentm]

"I know SRY didn't do this hot packet thing, but I'm going to argue that they did." People are advocating their point of view because that is what they genuinely believe.

Is it the Illusion of Superiority or Confirmation Bias that they suffer?

Seems like you'd have to have a low moral compass to get behind the "hotpack" scenario. It didn't make sense to me the first time I heard it and it still doesn't now. There's some cognitive bias at play here if it isn't simply a lack of morality.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

I can always rely on some completely meaningless vendor drama to provide me some entertainment on a Saturday morning.

This one has definitely entered circus territory

 

[noteablequotable]

Seems like you'd have to have a low moral compass to get behind the "hotpack" scenario. It didn't make sense to me the first time I heard it and it still doesn't now. There's some cognitive bias at play here if it isn't simply a lack of morality.

This is an absolutely crazy thing to say.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Is it the Illusion of Superiority or Confirmation Bias that they suffer?

Seems like you'd have to have a low moral compass to get behind the "hotpack" scenario. It didn't make sense to me the first time I heard it and it still doesn't now. There's some cognitive bias at play here if it isn't simply a lack of morality.

Hot pack is not a new thing invented by this one guy. It has happened in the steroid scene before. Just because you had never heard of it doesn’t mean it didn’t exist independently of your knowledge, and the idea of a vendor wanting to discipline or punish an unruly aggrieved customer doesnt seem like it should be that big a stretch. Your argument that it doesn’t make sense is weak, since it’s been a thing for many years

 

[brentm]

Hot pack is not a new thing invented by this one guy. It has happened in the steroid scene before. Just because you had never heard of it doesn’t mean it didn’t exist independently of your knowledge, and the idea of a vendor wanting to discipline or punish an unruly aggrieved customer doesnt seem like it should be that big a stretch. Your argument that it doesn’t make sense is weak, since it’s been a thing for many years

No, I'm aware that it's a "thing". But based on the screenshot of Alan sharing his address then asking for an address from Gibs just seemed like two angry people wanting to physically fight each other.

I outlined why the narrative didn't make sense in my previous posts. I won't go into agonizing detail about it again.

 

[zpped]

No, I'm aware that it's a "thing". But based on the screenshot of Alan sharing his address then asking for an address from Gibs just seemed like two angry people wanting to physically fight each other.

I outlined why the narrative didn't make sense in my previous posts. I won't go into agonizing detail about it again.

No you're being an asshole to anyone who doesn't align with your point of view and saying they have "Illusion of Superiority or Confirmation Bias" or "Seems like you'd have to have a low moral compass to get behind the "hotpack" scenario."

You like to bully people and its tired.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

i look at this all through a lens of credibility. I don’t know gibs so can’t really say much about their credibility, although masquerading as a vendor for whatever reason doesn’t predispose me to much trust. Krysia is no vendor simp, she has a track record of really digging into these types of questions and coming to a fair determination. PTDS, I can say the most about because I have personally been involved in designating the “buyer beware” tag. It was always, without exception, reserved for severe wrongdoing such as theft from customers or established patterns of poor quality. Sry as a vendor has had plenty of demonstrated issues and has an obvious agenda since they profit from the outcome of this conversation, so not a particularly credible source.

In a world where we don’t have direct personal access to all the facts, we have to choose our surrogates based on how close they are to the situation and what their incentives might be. You can go ahead and choose SRY for whatever reason you want, but if more credible sources who stand to gain or lose nothing from the outcome have seen the source material and made a determination, i am inclined to go that direction.

so recent threads have told us ordering from QSC and SRY is risky. Others are not as high volume and established and don't have as wide variety of products. I don't know.
then others get trashed and we just keep moving down the list. where does it stop? and what is the threshold for starting a "trashing" thread 10 bucks? 40 bucks?

high volume vendors are going to have more problems that just makes sense.

nurserachet thinks we should always support a "member of the community" over a vendor
i think supporting the truth is the right thing to do.

i feel like a bit of racism is creeping in. like nobody from China is honest and such. i more worried about CVS taking over the whole drug market and really screwing us. i'm worried about the scumbags running the insurance companies of any kind right here in the good ole USA.
CVS refuses to fill my wife's zep so i'm they are in with the insurance co more than any other pharmacy. we have had to transfer it to Walgreens which somehow has no problem gettng it.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

so recent threads have told us ordering from QSC and SRY is risky. Others are not as high volume and established and don't have as wide variety of products. I don't know.
then others get trashed and we just keep moving down the list. where does it stop? and what is the threshold for starting a "trashing" thread 10 bucks? 40 bucks?

high volume vendors are going to have more problems that just makes sense.

nurserachet thinks we should always support a "member of the community" over a vendor
i think supporting the truth is the right thing to do.

We all discuss to elucidate the risks and benefits, then everyone can evaluate the various vendors against their own individual level of risk tolerance and priorities. It’s why we encourage people to read instead of just saying “use this vendor.” Your pushback on the process you’re witnessing stems from your preference for the “use this vendor” model, and there are better places than glp1f for you because of that.

 

[nurseratchit]

nurserachet thinks we should always support a "member of the community" over a vendor
i think supporting the truth is the right thing to do.

Do not twist my words raw. I’ve already said multiple times I don’t know that member and I am not defending him. I’m also not going to vilify him based on an out of context screenshot. I just don’t understand the rush to defend vendors as if they are the ones who need protecting. I’m not sure why you care since you’re bent on injecting everything under the sun without caution anyway.

 

[zpped]

so recent threads have told us ordering from QSC and SRY is risky.

Your skewed perspective is very telling. I make my dislike of tracy no secret, but putting qsc and sry on the same level is a joke. One has been (mostly) successfully fulfilling orders to community for many years and the other has been around for ~8 months.

And your racism comment is just weak, one of the most derided vendors on this forum is American of unknown ethnicity. Tracy isn't Chinese, most likely French. I don't know much about Alan, but good odds he isn't either.

 

[keangkong]

nurserachet thinks we should always support a "member of the community" over a vendor
i think supporting the truth is the right thing to do.

Except that nurserachet never said that. I'm fine with disagreeing with what nurserachet said; I often do that myself. However, I'm not going to change the content of nurseratchet said, then criticize a straw man while pretending I'm the one fighting for truth.

 

[Vicki]

I think there are many other reasons to have warnings for SRY. From their earlier rep scamming people, underfill vials, shipping issues, also lying about producing COAs then gaslighting buyers later. They promised COAs on more than one occasion then refused to produce them later. My only assumption is they know the product tested bad.

I still think the hotpack story seems fishy. I also don't think gibs is lying outright. I think gibs genuinely believes Alan sent him a hotpack. I just don't believe a letter proves enough. As anybody could have sent him a hotpack. It's not unreasonable to think someone who trolls has more than one enemy. Also the timing of the letter/events don't make sense.

 

[brentm]

No you're being an asshole to anyone who doesn't align with your point of view

You like to bully people and its tired.

Said the Town Crier.

I get accused of "unfathomable" actions and "simping for vendors" when I don't see the hotpack scenario as logical?

So your response, after starting this nonsense thread is to call me an asshole?

 

[brentm]

I think there are many other reasons to have warnings for SRY. From their earlier rep scamming people, underfill vials, shipping issues, also lying about producing COAs then gaslighting buyers later. They promised COAs on more than one occasion then refused to produce them later. My only assumption is they know the product tested bad.

There's another person, that I know of, who I don't believe has been made whole on a promise from Alan.

Thread 'SRY is no bueno. Avoid at all costs.'

Oct 9, 2024

When I began this peptide journey, SRY was the first I found and tried from China.

Had some frozen peptides from my last buy that I wanted to research.

Enter Dihexa. Added 5ml of fresh hospira bac and it jelled right up. Tested pH and it's off the scale. Also, removed the top and ripped the metal cap.

Did some digging and of course they had many reports of this and eventually removed it until resolved.

I will also add each buy always had either a forgotten order or debate about payment when all details were provided from the start.

Since we have a lot of newbies and our vendor...

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I am very curious to see what your NAD+ test results will be Vicki.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

We all discuss to elucidate the risks and benefits, then everyone can evaluate the various vendors against their own individual level of risk tolerance and priorities. It’s why we encourage people to read instead of just saying “use this vendor.” Your pushback on the process you’re witnessing stems from your preference for the “use this vendor” model, and there are better places than glp1f for you because of that.

no, i like that you have lots of vendors advertising in the proper section. i like looking thru it to see if anybody has something new and different.

i guess vendors need to be criticized to keep them honest. i'll stay out of it.

 

[brentm]

More context. I don't see where Gibs was giving out his address. Alan was baiting him with a free box of t30. But it's clear from the screens Gibs never fessed an address to Alan.

 

[zpped]

Said the Town Crier.

I get accused of "unfathomable" actions and "simping for vendors" when I don't see the hotpack scenario as logical?

So your response, after starting this nonsense thread is to call me an asshole?

You can point your bullying at me all you like. It has no effect on me but I'll call you out when you start going after other people.

 

[glpfun]

 

[noteablequotable]

More context. I don't see where Gibs was giving out his address. Alan was baiting him with a free box of t30. But it's clear from the screens Gibs never fessed an address to Alan.

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He never claimed that he gave Alan his current address.

Also whether or not Alan actually sent a hot pack to Gibs, it's clear from this and messages he posted on Meso that he believes Alan sent him a hot pack. I think we can probably drop the malicious liar narrative for now. At worst Gibs is simply obstinate and wrong.

 

[zpped]

He never claimed that he gave Alan his current address.

Also whether or not Alan actually sent a hot pack to Gibs, it's clear from this and messages he posted on Meso that he believes Alan sent him a hot pack. I think we can probably drop the malicious liar narrative for now. At worst Gibs is simply obstinate and wrong.

And Alan already had gibs' address from the previous order gone wrong that started gibs pestering Alan. When Alan later heard that was an old address, he started this message chain seen here.