thanks for clarifying! had no idea there was more than one. and with all the aliases and people involved in this drama, it's been a bit hard to follow. it's almost like a mafia movie.
We're Bashing SRY this time.
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I have no dog in either of these fights and don't know any of the people involved, but what I do know is that putting faith in someones online reputation alone, no matter how well you think you know them, is probably not the best idea. We've seen at least one recent example of that.
Am I crazy for reading through this and still thinking SRY is possibly the best vendor for my situation / needs? Probably. However, being new to all of this and reading through as much as I can, looking at all the vendor posts, the reviews / rumors etc on each, I can't find another vendor that has:
1) The lowest prices
2) Testing (and no doubt about actual product, or at least not anything worse than countless other vendors who are nonetheless trusted)
3) domestic USA shipping (for speed / convenience / lower risk / cost)
4) Payment options of PayPal and aliblahblah. I'm not messing with crypto or bank wires.
The only other competitive vendor is QSC, but they lose out on the USA warehouse factor (and maybe the payment options? idk). The rest are either not keeping up with current pricing trends, or charge $40+ for what is essentially free / cheap / bottom of barrel shipping costs that Chinese pay for shipping to USA, or don't provide testing or long out of date testing.
No I don't work for SRY nor have even ordered from them yet, nor gaf. Just my thoughts as a newbie evaluating vendors and deciding what is important to me. Everyone need to decide for themselves which factors are important for them
1) The lowest prices
2) Testing (and no doubt about actual product, or at least not anything worse than countless other vendors who are nonetheless trusted)
3) domestic USA shipping (for speed / convenience / lower risk / cost)
4) Payment options of PayPal and aliblahblah. I'm not messing with crypto or bank wires.
The only other competitive vendor is QSC, but they lose out on the USA warehouse factor (and maybe the payment options? idk). The rest are either not keeping up with current pricing trends, or charge $40+ for what is essentially free / cheap / bottom of barrel shipping costs that Chinese pay for shipping to USA, or don't provide testing or long out of date testing.
No I don't work for SRY nor have even ordered from them yet, nor gaf. Just my thoughts as a newbie evaluating vendors and deciding what is important to me. Everyone need to decide for themselves which factors are important for them
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There are plenty of people who feel the same as you and are still using sry. That's why everyone says to research the vendors yourself- everyone's cost/benefit and risk/reward profile will be different.
stickfigure
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I would never touch SRY after the opioid indictment.
That's literally the leading cause of death under 45 in the US. I know people who died from fentanyl they were not expecting to get.
If you don't care about people dying from opioids, you may at least care about popping up on government radar for dealing with an indicted international drug dealer.
That's literally the leading cause of death under 45 in the US. I know people who died from fentanyl they were not expecting to get.
If you don't care about people dying from opioids, you may at least care about popping up on government radar for dealing with an indicted international drug dealer.
This is such a silly and cheap slight. You are trying to create a box that I must not care about illegal drug deaths, or I need to order elsewhere. I reject your childish shaming completely.
We are all buying substances from gray market Chinese drug makers. You have zero idea what else any of them are doing, and I assure you it's not all above board.
In addition, a compounding company selling compounds that could be precursors to an illegal drug doesn't really surprise me nor concern me. So does my local pharmacy, herbal compound sellers, and dozens of others. This is not selling fentanyl.
If you have lofty moral standards and concerns about the tangential possibilities of companies you do business with, then go hang out on the Lilly forum and not the illicit experimental gray market drug forum.
Either way, I dismiss your point entirely just based on your manipulative language and attempt to stain my position.
stickfigure
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I assume you didn’t read the indictment, did you? Otherwise, you wouldn’t have mentioned any kind of precursor. They were indicted for attempting to sell a synthetic opioid that is stronger than fentanyl and has no medical use whatsoever. It is solely used to cut drugs, without the knowledge of unsuspecting users, who end up dying from overdoses of substances for which they have no tolerance.
Most people who die from opioids like fentanyl never intended to consume it. It was added by drug dealers to increase their profits.
Your comparison to Lilly makes no sense. Lilly doesn't mix deadly drugs into other substances for unsuspecting users and is not involved in this business.
Your whole post is a sorry attempt to find excuse for your greed for lower prices without any moral compass.
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
people have free will to do whatever they choose. if it wasn't fentanyl, it'd be something else.
no we do not care at all.
no we do not care at all.
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
Relax, you may as well pop a few xan
stickfigure
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I don't mix uppers with downers
My order of Reta has nothing to do with your friends dying from their illegal drug use. You can have a personal preference to not like or buy or do xyz as a result of your own feelings and circumstances, that's completely understandable and fine by me. I however have no connection to it. I will leave it at that, and I have no animosity.
No no, keep going. Fight, fight, fight!
keangkong
A Not So Fat Dude
I worry that my order of fentanyl might be contaminated with GLP-1 drugs.
Marxism has nothing to do with anything that has been discussed here so maybe chill on injecting political ideology where there isn’t any reason.
For the record i agree you shouldn’t be shamed for your purchase. But you don’t need to get weird about it.
keangkong
A Not So Fat Dude
Opposition to opioid misuse does not appear to be a partisan issue or tied to a belief in Marxism. With that said, I have purchased from SRY after the allegations broke that SRY sold a fentanyl-like opioid. I'm cheap. What more can I say?
New rule you don’t get to be an asshole until your account is a week old
That one might be on me, chief. I egged him on knowing he's too new to know better. 😅
Fair enough and noted. Though I hope that the shaming of others due to ones' own unrelated personal issues would also be discouraged. I don't appreciate someone implying I don't care about drug deaths, nor do I care to hear about their friends. It's slimy.
Agreed. You have probably already figured out that this forum does tend to be a little spicy when it comes to willingness to confront one another over disagreements. I just try not to let it get political because (a) it’s not really relevant most of the time, with this convo being a case in point and (b) a personal belief that politics entering every aspect of everyone’s lives all the time is poison. Thanks for understanding and being cool about it.
@exploitedworkerbee This is the second time today I've tried to reply to you only for you to delete your comments
Just let us live in our lala land where they're selling it to us to better the health of all world citizens!
I expanded on the comment this time, so there is a remark for you to reply to. The other one I realized i was just wrong and wanted to destroy the evidence 😘
I have the email evidence, you were being NICE to someone I snarked 😂
zpped
Moderator
1) no one has the lowest prices. The lowest price version of any peptide moves from vendor to vendor at any given time. But they are usually in the running.
2) 2nd party tests are irrelevant.
3) QSC also has a US warehouse, I'm sure a few others do too. But Amo ships from china faster than a lot of domestic warehouses. (shipping costs are much higher fixed cost for vendors because of getting things through customs and reshipping) Prices on US warehouses reflect this cost as well.
4) Amo, ASC, GYC all take alibaba or paypal just off the top of my head. (Paying with paypal is a good way to get your account banned though.)
1) Yes that's what I mean, at this moment in time I cannot find a better price in the posts from vendors here, basically the same as QSC, and as you said they seem to be regularly at the lower end. I'm not interested in Group Buys or being deeply involved in following every twist and turn on telegram or discord etc. This vendor (and QSC) seem to be the option to buy at the lowest...ish price, on the spot, independently, whenever I want.
2) 2nd party tests are plenty relevant to me and I think many people, maybe not on their own or with an unknown vendor, but in combination with no reports of issues by customers so far I'm inclined to trust it. I'm not going to send anything off for testing, so 2nd party testing is at least something and a minimum that a vendor can and should do.
3) Everything I've read about QSC, the defining feature and running joke even, is that orders take the longest of any of the vendors. That, combined with no reference to USA warehouses that I could find in my research, led me to believe there is no USA option. Also when I contacted them they stated the fastest shipping was the standard long China shipping. They also refused to do DHL. If there is a USA warehouse or faster shipping, they don't want me to know or utilize it.
4) I've long used PayPal to buy and sell things that are prohibited by PayPal (but not illegal), such as firearm parts, knives, replica items, and more. Is it possible my account could be banned? Sure. It hasn't yet, and I have not been / am not concerned about it. I keep no money there and my life would go on if such happened. Having dabbled in crypto I have no interest in dealing with that, nor do I like sending wires. Saying that though, I will probably do Alibaba this next order
Like I mentioned in my post, everyone has different things that are important. Really I just want to order product at a good price, with ease, from within this country, get it quickly, from a seller that the product itself can be trusted at least to the same degree as any other (almost all have had a controversy). I've looked at / inquired with most of them, and right now it seems only SRY meets al my requirements. It could be a different one next order.
I also considered Nexaph, but they only have R6 atm. Ano has USA stock, but only R10 for USA warehouse, no testing, and reports of weird reactions- a factor that someone else may not care about, but one that I would not even consider. We all have different requirements.
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I think you may want to do more research. QSC literally has a US domestic warehouse price list that is included with every price list they post. They also have US warehouse only sales.
penewbie
GLP-1 Specialist
You're way overthinking this. Just pick a vendor and buy the drugs. They all had their issues, and they all will have future issues.
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