EvilMonkey
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Have seen some ongoing discussion about peptidetest.com which is part of Trust Pointe Analytics. I know there was a multi lab test with them against Jano, but I haven't seen the results to know how they stack up.
Zhejiang Zhaobo Technology Co. Ltd
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EvilMonkey
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Received R10 from @Jessie121 at Zhejiang Zhaobo Technology Co. Ltd. Visual quality is as I would expect for shipped around the world and tossed around by my USPS driver. A couple vials with small chip, very little shrinkage (could shimmy down vial if upside down). Did not have vacuum when reconstituting. Everything did fully dissolve with 1ml of bac water, no solids visible, no cloudy appearance. Went back and added .2ml of bac water since they "guarantee 120% overfill" so that would make 10mg a 12mg and I'd rather undershoot than overshoot on dosing.
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🤦🏻♂️ Slow down and research more. Look up “reconstituting peptides” - YouTube is your friend. Don’t rush to buy something if you don’t know what it is or how to use it.
Read, ask questions, and read more!
JustCallMePep
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I've been taking Tirz for 8 or 9 months and I just didn't realize it came freeze dried. I asked a question and you responded with telling me to ask questions. I feel like I was trying to do exactly what you're suggesting and you sent me to You Tube. Thanks!
Idk that I would use mz biolabs right now. I know they have a good reputation but I sent them a vial for testing and the tracking says it has been forwarded due to intructions or wrong address on the label. Been emailing and calling mz for a week. Also been everywhere on forums asking if anyone has had thier packages shipped to mz labs forwarded also. Can't find anyone that has personally used mz labs before.
Been calling usps and they don't have any current info either.
Janoshik has my vote unless mz decides to respond soon.
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peptidetest.com
their tests are very close to those from jano, also the person behind peptidetest is a friend with jano
jestintime
GLP-1 Novice
Check @dionysos's fast start guide and then read up from there: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tBzh84q571XYH-f3bokzT-KBiwyOQ6yS/view
officially they only accept corporate customers now
non-officially maybe can? Try ask them ...
JustCallMePep
Recently Joined
Received this email from MZ Labs late yesterday evening. Sounds like they are doing testing for the general public if you send them a check or MO. I'm going to send my sample to MZ today or tomorrow. 3 weeks turn around time, currently. $250 for the test if I'm reading the email correctly.
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Yes this is the same email I got. I didn't send a MO or check and I'm glad I didn't cuz my package got lost for a week lol
But i just got an email from them today that they recieved my sample. Tracking still shows its lost.
As far as I know they will take all payments from the general public they just prefer MO or check. But to be honest I will mail them a check if that's what they want me to do.
Hopefully I get my results soon
JustCallMePep
Recently Joined
I just sent my sample off to: https://www.peptidetest.com
$300. Located in Michigan. Quick turnaround...should have my results in a week-ish so that's why I chose them. The process of placing the order, sending the sample, etc. was all very professional. Their communication was really quick which I appreciated.
A noted plus, they take Venmo (among standard forms of payment too).
$300. Located in Michigan. Quick turnaround...should have my results in a week-ish so that's why I chose them. The process of placing the order, sending the sample, etc. was all very professional. Their communication was really quick which I appreciated.
A noted plus, they take Venmo (among standard forms of payment too).
EvilMonkey
Recently Joined
They charge extra for Reta.
My RS is a little daring as Zhaobo's results may have missed the mark a couple times but the test server results from a couple months ago were good. They haven't had any dangerous results, that I've seen. RS has a gut feeling that what was received is what was ordered.
JustCallMePep
Recently Joined
I got my test results back for my order of 30mg Tirzepatide from ZZT. I had it tested at peptidetest.com. Anyone that would like a copy of the results can send me $10 via Venmo (@focotocomo) and include your email and I'll send you the COA results. The test cost me $300 so I'm just trying to recoup some of those expenses.
EvilMonkey
Recently Joined
Understandable as testing is expensive for small orders. It really takes 6 kits or more to make it worth ordering directly and doing independent testing vs prices in the group buys that do testing.
dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
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Pepsicle
Another Cantides Alt
You are always quick to label a vendor a scammer on your list. I have bought from ZZB Fiona and they are a real company. I even have a test for their Tirz 30. No wonder Reddit blocked blocked you. When are you going to update your number 1 favourite Aminos research on your list? AR has been sending underdosed vials and inventing peptides and he’s still green. Scam list
Oh and while you are at it, you can provide the fake COAs for Cantides and how the are likely ahead of Canadian authorities. We need facts and not some rando making lists with nothing to back it up, the authorities will never catch me because I'm smarter than them fools.
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First off, @dionysos 's list is his own personal list, and he is free to add whatever he wants to it. It's a list made from his point of view with the information he has available, to call it a scam list is nothing short of rude. It's a great resource he has chosen to share and spends his time keeping updated to the best of his ability (biased or not).
It's not an official resource meant to guarantee any kind of standard or QA - It's a list to give people an overview of vendors and how trustable they are according to the guy who made the list- whether you trust his judgement or not is up to you - But trying to make him look bad by questioning the list with a brand new account, seems a bit more sketchy than the practices used to create the list.
As for demanding proof? That would be fair if he was charging you to view the list, but it's free. How would he even go about proving it in the first place?
Screenshots can be edited, profiles can be made with similar names, anyone can send a test of an unlabeled vial and mark it as whatever they want...
Imo, it should be standard for 3rd party tests to pay the additional 30$ to Jano to have images of the vial attached to the lab report. And vendor reports should have an email the vendors representatives has access to as the client, would make it a lot easier to verify whether the test was actually done by the seller if in doubt.
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One instance of something fishy without a good resolution from the vendor should be enough to get a negative note on any list - the tolerance for mistakes needs to be very small because of the way the market is structured, then it will be possible to know what vendors are actually reliable over time.
One good order is definitely not enough to be marked off as green and good to go 😉
5 orders in a row with great results from your own 3rd part tests, does still not guarantee that it will be the same for the 6th.
The main issue for most suppliers, is that they don't really know what they get without testing it themselves (Same is true for Chinese resellers or "labs"). The moment a vendor relaxes on testing and trusts their supplier, there is a risk of bad or even bunk product going out - It is not uncommon for vendors/suppliers to take shortcuts in order to save some $.
And when I say vendor/supplier, that also includes labs - Since you are almost definitely not buying your products directly from a lab making the raws themselves, and if you are - there might (or might not) be issues with the raws - very few of the labs that make the good raws sell directly to retail customers, at least not with the prices you are expecting from China.
If everything was 3rd party tested by the recipient, very few vendors would have a stellar track record I believe.
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I have 0 interest in saying anything negative about a specific vendor since that's a bad look when having a vendor tag myself. But from some of the communication I have seen from Cantides, some healthy skepticism is warranted.
Though to be fair, I don't really know how it all started and there was a large amount of people hopping in to jab him in the face at some point.
A bit similar to what's happening to Nexaph - With an increasing amount of people calling them out for various situations without any substantial proof. I get that it really is hard to provide any kind of proof in situations like these.
But I find some of the problems called out odd, as very few vendors are very transparent about their procurement and testing process to begin with, you just have to take their word for it.
I have no idea if the allegations towards nexaph is true or not, but as a vendor I do find it slightly disturbing to see a vendor routinely bashed without any real or substantial evidence provided
I have started to reply in this and other threads half a dozen times in the last 24 hours and deleted them because in my head I just keep hearing @ZippityDooDah telling us to "PLAY NICE"
But it is exhausting... 🤐
I will say when I read through the various threads I will give what I believe to be proper weight to the comments of someone like @dionysos with over 700 messages and over 1900 reactions AND @Bacchus who is newer here like me but consistantly contributes to lots of threads (even if I don't always agree with him 😂 ). They both consistantly move the discussions forward.
Additionally I will give proper weight to comments made by those with few posts who hide their profiles and posting history and appear to have a single objective no matter the thread.
But it is exhausting... 🤐
I will say when I read through the various threads I will give what I believe to be proper weight to the comments of someone like @dionysos with over 700 messages and over 1900 reactions AND @Bacchus who is newer here like me but consistantly contributes to lots of threads (even if I don't always agree with him 😂 ). They both consistantly move the discussions forward.
Additionally I will give proper weight to comments made by those with few posts who hide their profiles and posting history and appear to have a single objective no matter the thread.
its like parents leave house for a weekend with teenage kids home alone, right? 😉
Also, im starting to feel fed up with tons of messages without any real value (ok, this message is also one of them) based mostly on opinions only without any facts and from new members
Many of us are suddenly new members again and I know you’ve seen how much I post 😂
Edit: Oh wait.. now I’m a regular Member? I can’t keep up
Vacation4us
GLP-1 Member
Hi folks I’m new here but I can verify I am currently in a difficult spot with this vendor. They did in fact send me a fake COA. I found them from the recommendations of a Redditor who said he had independently had Janoshik COA done. Now that I have asked for a glimpse at these COA’s this previously very helpful Johnny on the spot with his answers is ghosting me.
I ordered 60 mg Tirz x10 and 12 mg Reta from them. Paid on Alibaba Wednesday. They did tell me they were out of the Tirz but it would arrive over the weekend and ship on this coming Monday.
In the meantime someone hooked me up with this forum. Which is how I found out the COA was fake. I again contacted “Poly Peptide” via what’s app and stated the COA was fake and I wanted to cancel my order. She denied the accusation but offered no explanation to the missing pieces, ie barcode and tracking number for the COA. Told me to request a refund on Alibaba and then denied that request. Her and I have had on going back and forth bullsh*t conversations about how she will send me more product, can’t ship till October 8 yada yada around we go with me saying I no longer feel comfortable and just want a refund.
It feels like a game she is playing with me. They currently haven’t shipped anything and I have no refund while she exclaims what an upstanding and reputable company they are.
That’s where I currently stand with this vendor. I am currently out $756 but hope Alibaba will refund in the end.
I ordered 60 mg Tirz x10 and 12 mg Reta from them. Paid on Alibaba Wednesday. They did tell me they were out of the Tirz but it would arrive over the weekend and ship on this coming Monday.
In the meantime someone hooked me up with this forum. Which is how I found out the COA was fake. I again contacted “Poly Peptide” via what’s app and stated the COA was fake and I wanted to cancel my order. She denied the accusation but offered no explanation to the missing pieces, ie barcode and tracking number for the COA. Told me to request a refund on Alibaba and then denied that request. Her and I have had on going back and forth bullsh*t conversations about how she will send me more product, can’t ship till October 8 yada yada around we go with me saying I no longer feel comfortable and just want a refund.
It feels like a game she is playing with me. They currently haven’t shipped anything and I have no refund while she exclaims what an upstanding and reputable company they are.
That’s where I currently stand with this vendor. I am currently out $756 but hope Alibaba will refund in the end.
Can you charge back on your credit card?
Vacation4us
GLP-1 Member
Definitely will if when I hear back from Alibaba ( supposedly takes 3 days for each review) and I am not given a refund this time.
I don’t doubt you at all, but it would be interesting to see the fake coa and the alibaba order, even communication (do not share anything you are not comfortable with sharing).
I simply as because of the timing with all the fud, and if memory serves right an account with a cantydes alt account tag just spoke highly of this company…
Again, I don’t doubt you, but I think it would help clarify a lot of things for people to see some actual proof of various claims that are flying around 🙃
MarisWinter
GLP-1 Enthusiast
YOUTUBE is your friend. Teacher. Mentor. 🥳
Vacation4us
GLP-1 Member
Here you go;
Please note I did not report the COA was fake when I initially applied for the refund, the seller told me to apply for the refund so I attempted to be civil thinking I was getting my refund.
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dionysos
GLP-1 Specialist
That is quite possibly THE MOST FAKE Janoshik
COA Ev-aah @Vacation4us !
COA Ev-aah @Vacation4us !
Vacation4us
GLP-1 Member
Yup this newbie was quite gullible. 😍
