We're Bashing SRY this time.

Are you a criminal defense attorney? Because this and your prior comment is a good summation.

No.

I just cling to facts in an emotional world. And everyone was like "aren't you totally emotional about this?" and I was like "well let me see the facts". And then they said "I don't need to show you the facts, I already did this in PXXX and it's gone now". And that's when I was like.. "why you want to be all emotional about this?"

And Gibs tried gaslighting me.... others seem to really want to fry SRYLAB for one reason or another.

I proposed the narrative that Gibs and his buddy (I know at least one), orchestrated this over a long period of time. They probably are responsible for PXXX getting nuked as well so they could attribute that their fake narrative about Alan.

In a case without many facts presented, you have to run things through Occams and Hanlons Razor. That's when things start to fall apart.

And Gibs did exactly that. He ghosted the conversation when I pressed him.
 
EL is currently trialing larger doses in that range. But remember the point isn't to never be hungry, if your measurements are improving then the drug is already working at its current dose.
I question your word choice for the title of this thread.

Why would you say "We're BASHING Sry this time"

Really seems like an odd choice of words to start these rumors on the forum.
 
Yall are forgetting the hotpack is just one (albeit very important) thing in a long list of SRY's short history in the market.

But I know we can always count on people coming out to defend the dealers. I don't need much to keep me from ordering from someone.
I think this is where I’m at and have been for a while. I’m not sure I care about the hot pack nothingburger, and even if that hadn’t been an issue I’m like… when’s the last time we heard ASC mentioned in some drama? Some bad test results 6+ months ago? What about GYC? There are just too many other vendors out there that don’t have constant drama around them.

Also idk why (ok I do) but I’m laughing so hard at someone trying to ban PP from the sry server.
 
@zpped

Your title shows intention. Like you intended to "bash" SRYLAB's reputation with the post.

I just can't believe someone would give up a tell that easy. Terrible opsec if you ask me.

And why "this time"? Who did you bash before?

Do you have an agenda? It seems like you hate SRYLAB, which is fine. It's just that hate is passionate. I'd expect apathy from someone who "doesn't care".

More questions?

Can you answer any of these?
 
I think this is where I’m at and have been for a while. I’m not sure I care about the hot pack nothingburger, and even if that hadn’t been an issue I’m like… when’s the last time we heard ASC mentioned in some drama? Some bad test results 6+ months ago? What about GYC? There are just too many other vendors out there that don’t have constant drama around them.

Also idk why (ok I do) but I’m laughing so hard at someone trying to ban PP from the sry server.

Sounds like this whole thread was fake news though.

What's your agenda?
 
I question your word choice for the title of this thread.

Why would you say "We're BASHING Sry this time"

Really seems like an odd choice of words to start these rumors on the forum.
The thread title is a joke that recalls back to the last 13 page qsc thread. We often get accused of only ever shitting on Baba. Not sure what you're insinuating. I saw some important information being talked about in other parts of the community and decided to inform the people here.

I started the thread saying "Details are still emerging."
 
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Sounds like this whole thread was fake news though.

What's your agenda?
You’re giving me flashbacks to when a VP asked me for an agenda for a meeting on Monday and I forgot to send it to him lmao.

I don’t have an agenda? I’ve ordered from SRY before. I had a good experience with them. I’m still using what I ordered. I probably won’t again. I literally don’t care about any of these vendors or people, so long as I keep losing weight and having nice skin and not spending a fortune to do it.
 
The thread title is a joke that recalls back to the last 13 page qsc thread. We often get accused of only ever shitting on Baba. Not sure what you're insinuating. I saw some important information being talked about in other parts of the community and decided to inform the people here.

I started the thread saying "Details are still emerging."

I don't get the joke. Was the word "bashing" used in the last QSC thread? You just mentioned QSC thread.... and then say only ever accused of shitting on Baba. Doesn't make sense.

Why didn't you do the legwork I've done here to sus this out? You hear shit and just run over to a forum and start posting what you hear?

You retweet tweets without reading them too?
 
Try taking half your weekly dose twice per week.
I think I will end up here. Currently stacking with a little cagri on day 4 or 5, but thinking I'll probably just end up going on a 5-day tirz schedule
 
You done now so can I respond?

@zpped

Your title shows intention. Like you intended to "bash" SRYLAB's reputation with the post.

I just can't believe someone would give up a tell that easy. Terrible opsec if you ask me.

And why "this time"? Who did you bash before?

Do you have an agenda? It seems like you hate SRYLAB, which is fine. It's just that hate is passionate. I'd expect apathy from someone who "doesn't care".

More questions?

Can you answer any of these?
"this time" as opposed to the last time which was qsc and the time before that was nexaph.

Do I have an agenda? Keeping people informed.

Hate SRY? I think the only time I've ever talked about them before is when they were caught selling fent precursors and only in that one thread. I've never even considered buying from them because of all the drama they are always caught up it.

Sounds like this whole thread was fake news though.
Of the original 3 points. The first one is true, the second one has turned out to be from an unreliable source, and the third wasn't really ever an accusation.
I don't get the joke. Was the word "bashing" used in the last QSC thread? You just mentioned QSC thread.... and then say only ever accused of shitting on Baba. Doesn't make sense.

Why didn't you do the legwork I've done here to sus this out? You hear shit and just run over to a forum and start posting what you hear?

You retweet tweets without reading them too?
Try reading those threads for context.

I was (and still am doing that legwork). I judged it worth repeating. Still tracking down some other leads in other places. When I made this post, the general consensus was it was all likely true. And I made sure people were aware all the details weren't complete. (They still aren't)
 
Of the original 3 points. The first one is true, the second one has turned out to be from an unreliable source, and the third wasn't really ever an accusation.

I was (and still am doing that legwork). I judged it worth repeating. Still tracking down some other leads in other places. When I made this post, the general consensus was it was all likely true. And I made sure people were aware all the details weren't complete. (They still aren't)

No, point number 1 was false also.

You said:

1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.

The truth is, that the packages were domestic and were underpaid in postage.

There was not fake or counterfeit postage affixed to the boxes.

And no one is going to get in trouble. They don't open domestic to domestic packages that are underpaid. They just leave a note that says, pick up "postage due".

You're the town crier. But all you do is report fake news.
 
I was (and still am doing that legwork). I judged it worth repeating. Still tracking down some other leads in other places. When I made this post, the general consensus was it was all likely true. And I made sure people were aware all the details weren't complete. (They still aren't)

Well be sure to keep us all apprised of your fake news when you have time to report it.
 
No, point number 1 was false also.

You said:

1) Sending packages with fake postage which can get people in trouble.

The truth is, that the packages were domestic and were underpaid in postage.

There was not fake or counterfeit postage affixed to the boxes.

And no one is going to get in trouble. They don't open domestic to domestic packages that are underpaid. They just leave a note that says, pick up "postage due".

You're the town crier. But all you do is report fake news.
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Sure seems like the USPS considers it counterfeit. Postal Inspectors absolutely can seize these and investigate. At a minimum getting someone's address flagged.
 
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Sure seems like the USPS considers it counterfeit. Postal Inspectors absolutely can seize these and investigate. At a minimum getting someone's address flagged.

Suspect sticker. I'll ask my postman tomorrow at pickup if that's a real sticker or not.
 
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I have never seen the postal service affix a sticker that looks like a NIIMBOT sticker to a piece of postage.

It doesn't look genuine.

And it says in the partial on the real sticker on the left "underpaid"..

USPS always just uses ball point pen and writes right on the label for postage due.

I call an early FAKE NEWS on that shit. But I'll ask my postman (Aaron) at pickup tomorrow. Super nice guy... near retirement at the USPS.
 
Looks like a NIIMBOT sticker lol

Ah damn someone beat me to it

It's making a little more sense now.

They shipped Ground Advantage.

You really need to have the weights right or you'll get a postage due.

The pseudocode for that is something like

If postage due.
Then Attempt debit account on record for additional postage
If no account on record and postage is due.
Then return to sender
If sender return address is invalid..

and that's where I'm not sure... I know they'll just boomerang the package back if they can't autocharge your account for the overage.

And then if the return address is bunk I'm not sure what happens.

The tier system for weighed postage is not friendly. They would have done better to use flat rate boxes.





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I did a quick search and was able to find some examples of what the sticker normally looks like 🤔View attachment 4364View attachment 4365

Yeah, those look more official.

I'm not discounting that the sticker isn't official. It's just pretty amateur looking for something the post office would use frequently.

I do think it'll may get flagged counterfeit if there is no account debit card to charge for the overage on the sender's account and the return address is invalid.

But I don't think they'll likely seize the package and come get you in trouble for GLP1s. That's a stretch.
 
Like I said. Sry sent me what I ordered and the lab verified it. I’d buy from them again


Again, Don’t doxx me bros
People want to start complaining about all types of things that are good. SRY and QSC are two of the best vendors. Yet people want to complain. Go ahead and pay more.
 
Yeah, those look more official.

I'm not discounting that the sticker isn't official. It's just pretty amateur looking for something the post office would use frequently.

I do think it'll may get flagged counterfeit if there is no account debit card to charge for the overage on the sender's account and the return address is invalid.

But I don't think they'll likely seize the package and come get you in trouble for GLP1s. That's a stretch.
Thanks for your work on debunking the SRY hot pocket conspiracy theory. The funny thing is that the commonly used vendors all tend to be fairly reliable and are afraid of the losses they incur each time people get upset at them. I'm not claiming that there is no risk when you pay someone in China with crypto because there is, but particularly if you use the vendors that others people have been using, the risk is relatively low.
 
Thanks for your work on debunking the SRY hot pocket conspiracy theory. The funny thing is that the commonly used vendors all tend to be fairly reliable and are afraid of the losses they incur each time people get upset at them. I'm not claiming that there is no risk when you pay someone in China with crypto because there is, but particularly if you use the vendors that others people have been using, the risk is relatively low.

Well I'm sure this thing cost SRYLAB business even if it was fake. But I never worry when I deal with Tuk, SRYLAB, and now I've popped my cherry on QSC. I find Tracy's lack of professionalism and infamatory responses to be tough to overlook.

But ultimately we just want our products to arrive safely and to be exactly (or overfilled) what was advertised.

Some people really like real Group Buys. With shared testing costs, etc. And that makes sense to be... but I think the consequence of a customs seizure could be more than some could handle, especially if the vendor decides not to reship. Other risks seem to be the fact that the GB coordinator takes a fairly large legal risk. These guys from China don't follow the Bitcoin whitepaper and get a new public key/address for each transaction. So it's super easy to track their money.

I know most GB vendors don't pay from exchange wallets and use Exodus... so they are probably fairly well protected from that risk. But it just seems like an inordinate amount of financial and legal risk for the reward. Maybe they do it for the GLP1 street cred?

So I just roll the dice with vendors I've mentioned. Sig Aud. Tuk. GYC. ASC. QSC and SRY. Oh and I have Nexaph too... Lately it's just been Tuk and Sig Aud.

SRY was one of the first vendors I tried after TUK. And my experience has always been positive. Alan seems to own his mistakes when he makes them. I think there are a couple people I can count that haven't been made whole based on promises. One on the forums here. Another in discord.

I'm not sure about all the fuckery lately with SRYLAB, Gibs, and the other character who I'm unsure of. But there is no shortage of fuckery.
 
It's making a little more sense now.

They shipped Ground Advantage.

You really need to have the weights right or you'll get a postage due.

The pseudocode for that is something like

If postage due.
Then Attempt debit account on record for additional postage
If no account on record and postage is due.
Then return to sender
If sender return address is invalid..

and that's where I'm not sure... I know they'll just boomerang the package back if they can't autocharge your account for the overage.

And then if the return address is bunk I'm not sure what happens.

The tier system for weighed postage is not friendly. They would have done better to use flat rate boxes.





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That person posted a receipt for $6.50.. and as you can see the only way you'd have to pay additional $6.50 per that table is if sender paid nothing (ie used fake label)... cause $6.50 is the standard rate.. USPS would collect the difference, not double dip. IOW.. Alan's explanation for that fiasco is complete nonsense..
 
That person posted a receipt for $6.50.. and as you can see the only way you'd have to pay additional $6.50 per that table is if sender paid nothing (ie used fake label)... cause $6.50 is the standard rate.. USPS would collect the difference, not double dip. IOW.. Alan's explanation for that fiasco is complete nonsense..
Where is the picture of the receipt for $6.50?

The sticker isn't a receipt. It's a sticker that has $6.50 written on it.

6.50 is the rate for 8 ounces to Zone 6. It's a specific rate zoned. It isn't "standard".
 
so this whole deal is over 6.50?

Summary seems to be that SRYLAB included prepaid labels to their "US Warehouse". And SRYLAB does not have an account to charge on file with USPS for underpaid postage.

I presume that when the package is attempted to be returned, the address is undeliverable.

At this point the postage gets flagged "counterfeit" and delivery+collection is attempted on the named recipient on the label.

Although it is flagged as counterfeit, and USPS may be well-within their right to open the package. They don't generally do this and will simply attempt to collect postage from the recipient. Yes, postage due was 6.50 because they rejected the underpayment on the label they deemed "counterfeit" due to invalid return address and no account with a card on-file to charge.

That's what I understand at this point.

I don't deny that SRYLAB has been riddled with issues lately. Shipping incorrect volume weights of Tirz, etc. But it seems to have been exacerbated with reports of fake news and completely fabricated accusations.

Right now I am inclined to believe that the picture of the package marked as counterfeit is genuine and USPS simply wants their money for the postage. Little to no risk for the recipient other than 6.50 in this case.
 
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No.

I just cling to facts in an emotional world. And everyone was like "aren't you totally emotional about this?" and I was like "well let me see the facts". And then they said "I don't need to show you the facts, I already did this in PXXX and it's gone now". And that's when I was like.. "why you want to be all emotional about this?"

And Gibs tried gaslighting me.... others seem to really want to fry SRYLAB for one reason or another.

I proposed the narrative that Gibs and his buddy (I know at least one), orchestrated this over a long period of time. They probably are responsible for PXXX getting nuked as well so they could attribute that their fake narrative about Alan.

In a case without many facts presented, you have to run things through Occams and Hanlons Razor. That's when things start to fall apart.

And Gibs did exactly that. He ghosted the conversation when I pressed him.
Facts first. 100%
 
pretty disappointed we haven't got a big sry clearance event by now. i'm starting to think the 50 cents/mg threshold might be the commodity price for tirz, they all seem to be hesitant to breach that for retail pricing.
 
I have never seen the postal service affix a sticker that looks like a NIIMBOT sticker to a piece of postage.

It doesn't look genuine.

And it says in the partial on the real sticker on the left "underpaid"..

USPS always just uses ball point pen and writes right on the label for postage due.

I call an early FAKE NEWS on that shit. But I'll ask my postman (Aaron) at pickup tomorrow. Super nice guy... near retirement at the USPS.
I didn't even consider it could be a niimbot label but now that you mention it 🤣
 
Retraction: it looks like the hot packs person was not who I thought it was, so i take back my vouching for them. Trying to get to the bottom of how I came to be mistaken about who the allegations came from. Anyways sorry for contributing to the confusion, and @brentm I’m sorry for not entertaining your line of questioning. turns out the source here wasn’t as reliable as I had thought.
I’m honestly a bit lost here, do we have any actual proof that the respected member faked the customs letter and postage they shared? From what I’ve seen, Alan’s defense is just a screenshot showing they had some personal beef with him, which doesn’t really prove anything about what happened later.

I also saw Krysia’s post backing Alan, but that’s not surprising. She has a reputation for being petty, like banning people from The Swiss just for being surprised about her taking over 30 mg of Tirz at once or for questioning her motives for pushing TCI so hard. She probably got butthurt when the member told her to f-off after her “do you have any prove” comment.
 
I’m honestly a bit lost here, do we have any actual proof that the respected member faked the customs letter and postage they shared? From what I’ve seen, Alan’s defense is just a screenshot showing they had some personal beef with him, which doesn’t really prove anything about what happened later.

No, we know nothing, and nothing has been solved. We're just a moving on, lol.
 
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Sure seems like the USPS considers it counterfeit. Postal Inspectors absolutely can seize these and investigate. At a minimum getting someone's address flagged.
What they mean by counterfeit is the weight on the package does match what they just weighed it at.

You pay the postage by weight. So the weight this post office has is not what is on the postage from SYR - making the customer pay the difference. Alan said if that happens, he would pay you the charge. It doesn’t mean what’s in the bag is counterfeit.

To be honest, 7$ shouldn’t even big that big of deal.
 
What they mean by counterfeit is the weight on the package does match what they just weighed it at.

You pay the postage by weight. So the weight this post office has is not what is on the postage from SYR - making the customer pay the difference. Alan said if that happens, he would pay you the charge. It doesn’t mean what’s in the bag is counterfeit.

To be honest, 7$ shouldn’t even big that big of deal.
You're not following the conversation because no one suggested the contents were counterfeit. Doesn't matter the $ is, the post office considers it a big deal. Don't strawman this.
 
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No, we know nothing, and nothing has been solved. We're just a moving on, lol.
I’d like to think we’re being careful about this. Turning against a respected member so quickly while letting a vendor with a shady history slide could have serious consequences for customers if the claims are true. We shouldn’t let them off the hook without solid proof that the member is lying.
 
No, we know nothing, and nothing has been solved. We're just a moving on, lol.
I’d like to think we’re being careful about this. Turning against a respected member so quickly while letting a vendor with a shady history slide could have serious consequences for customers if the claims are true. We shouldn’t let them off the hook without solid proof that the member is lying.
I've already confirmed with the testing group that they are keeping a warning on sry (which is extremely rare for them to do). swiss has really jumped the gun on declaring this over. But no one is ever going to have proof of anything because it's just not possible.
 
I've already confirmed with the testing group that they are keeping a warning on sry (which is extremely rare for them to do). swiss has really jumped the gun on declaring this over. But no one is ever going to have proof of anything because it's just not possible.
Is PTDS back?
 
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I’d like to think we’re being careful about this. Turning against a respected member so quickly while letting a vendor with a shady history slide could have serious consequences for customers if the claims are true. We shouldn’t let them off the hook without solid proof that the member is lying.
We’re not talking about a respected member. We’re taking about a person who has admitted to impersonating SRY sales reps on the SRY discord.
 
We’re not talking about a respected member. We’re taking about a person who has admitted to impersonating SRY sales reps on the SRY discord.
I’m not sure why you’re calling this impersonation when the “fake” account clearly used his username. That seems more like mocking, taunting, or passive-aggressive trolling than actual impersonation. Just to clarify, I’ve never interacted with this member or dealt with this vendor, but the accusations being made are far too serious to dismiss or discredit the member simply because they’ve had issues with a vendor that already has a questionable track record.
 

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