Hospira BAC water availability

Shit. I ordered from peptide.shop and expiration is 5/25 on all of them and now I have quite a number of bottles and no way will I use them all by then, and I'll need bac water after that, so that means I just wasted $ and get to waste more $. Will you post expiration date when you receive yours?
I wrote today to ask what the expiry date is for the vials they would send me.
Noah from Peptide Shop answered that bac water vials "don't have an expiration date but it is better to get a new one after 2 month because it is not sterile anymore".
I really don't know what to think 😲
 
I wrote today to ask what the expiry date is for the vials they would send me.
Noah from Peptide Shop answered that bac water vials "don't have an expiration date but it is better to get a new one after 2 month because it is not sterile anymore".
I really don't know what to think 😲
You must conclude for yourself @MrsMUffin, my own observation is that Noah from Peptide Shop is mistaken on the facts, an opportunist, and likely an ---hole.

There is good reason to expect that an unopened, unfrozen vial of Bacteriostatic Water for Injection USP kept at room temperature in a dark place will last far longer than one year.
Further...
  • "While it is essential to follow proper storage guidelines and use unexpired solutions whenever possible, using bacteriostatic water past its expiration date is generally safe. The expiration date primarily indicates when the manufacturer guarantees the solution’s stability and potency, but it does not mean the solution becomes immediately harmful once it expires."
    - from Bacteriostatic Water Australia, a leading supplier of BWater.

Benzl Alcohol, the anti-microbial active ingredient in Bac Water, is a very stable molecule. As a reagent-grade lab chemical it is considered to have a shelf life of 3 (three) years unopened, room temperature, dark place etc. Numerous suppliers of lab chemicals make the 3 years unopened statement, some suggest that a re-test is warranted after two years unopened.

Also commonly stated by chemical suppliers is that "shelf life after being opened is One Year".

Much of the angst online about Bacteriostatic Water stems from the FDA labelling requirement for "multiple patient/multiple use" scenario that this product was produced for. The "28-day after first use" expiration label is intended to minimize cross-patient infection, not a concern about product age.

In our "single patient/multiple use" scenario there IS NO RISK of cross-patient infection. In fact there was no short expiry date on Hospira Bac Water vials intended for single patient use until recently. The change of labelling requirement by the FDA was made because of improper institutional use of the "single-user" product for extended periods in large patient populations; there were in fact infection outbreaks as might be expected.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a medical professional. This is not a medical recommendation rather it is a collection of my own observations.
 
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@Tomes

@dionysos has a link in his signature for syringes, that's what I got..bd brand. They are much better/sharper than Amazon options Like $25 for 90 5/16" 31ga 1cc.

I thought I posted the link in this thread somewhere, maybe it was another thread. I get lost answering the same question 20 times. I get it, it's easier to ask than spend 3 hours reading. I'm guilty of that myself.

But it's also possible you found some on Amazon that are ok, and not the garbage that myself and others have experienced.
Thank you @Broken Chef and @Garbo

Pretty sure I'm using the shitty Amazon ones that everyone else is, they weren't a name brand... maybe I have thin skin? Heading to @dionysos profile to upgrade!
 
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I have a case from AMSCO and three from Westend. The three I got from ebac-water look sketchy just as the post on Peppys shows. That would also explain the June 2026 exp which no other supplier has. I ordered from ebac before even considering that someone would fake Hospira BAC water...

Left is ebac, right is westend. Stopper is not flat, cap is not flat, there's a weird hole in the label.
As there are legit medical supply companies that will bulk sell Hospira I wouldn’t risk it after reading that thread
AMSCO will currently sell you a case for pretty cheap.firefox_3Ceq548eT3.jpg
 
Who's going to stop you? But I personally don't plan on throwing mine away after that date.

I think Noah doesn't know what he's talking about!

Does anyone have Bac from Peptide Shop?? Are they using fake labels too??

They most definitely have exp dates on them!
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Can I ask when did you order the bac from peptide.shop and when was it delivered?
 
Aren’t you doing the Lilly legal intern’s work for them by publishing this list of suppliers for them to go after? This lack of discretion is how we got into this situation to begin with.
Please note they use AI on everything. You have no privacy. Those big pharmas know everything. They know you’re on this site.
 
I have a case from AMSCO and three from Westend. The three I got from ebac-water look sketchy just as the post on Peppys shows. That would also explain the June 2026 exp which no other supplier has. I ordered from ebac before even considering that someone would fake Hospira BAC water...

Left is ebac, right is westend. Stopper is not flat, cap is not flat, there's a weird hole in the label.

AMSCO will currently sell you a case for pretty cheap.View attachment 1325
Now that I compare my old bac water bottle with new ones I just got from ebac, the ones from ebac definitely look sketchy..but why would someone make fake bac water when they can just make their own with different labels?? So annoying 🤔
 
Now that I compare my old bac water bottle with new ones I just got from ebac, the ones from ebac definitely look sketchy..but why would someone make fake bac water when they can just make their own with different labels?? So annoying 🤔
Brand identity/trust? Hospira’s got it and they don’t necessarily. idk if I’d by ebac-water.com branded water.
 
Now that I compare my old bac water bottle with new ones I just got from ebac, the ones from ebac definitely look sketchy..but why would someone make fake bac water when they can just make their own with different labels?? So annoying 🤔
Conspiracy theory #317961... Maybe just labeling recon solution from CN. or Maybe the stamped hole signifies something.

oops, that was 2
 
Yeah, those look just like the Chinese sourced syringes on Amazon which have a well-deserved rep as being 2nd rate.

Bectin-Dickinson is the US industry standard and deservedly so.
They cost $21.36 for 90, delivered from my fave supplier ADW Diabetic Supplies. I’ve got a link to them in my Fast GLP Start Guide in my signature line and on my Profile page.
I would love to order from them but looks like they have require a prescription for my NY.
 
I would love to order from them but looks like they have require a prescription for my NY.
That's not good to hear.

Has anyone else in NY been able to order from AMSCO?

Someone else posted about not being able to get syringes in NY, so hopefully, no offense, it's just a NY thing.
 
That's not good to hear.

Has anyone else in NY been able to order from AMSCO?

Someone else posted about not being able to get syringes in NY, so hopefully, no offense, it's just a NY thing.
The thing they quoted was about syringes...unclear if the NY RX referenced is for syringes or BAC water.

@Brooklyn Rose have you tried Diabetic Warehouse? Because according to this website prescriptions aren't required for syringes in NY. Maybe I am missing something.
 
The thing they quoted was about syringes...unclear if the NY RX referenced is for syringes or BAC water.

@Brooklyn Rose have you tried Diabetic Warehouse? Because according to this website prescriptions aren't required for syringes in NY. Maybe I am missing something.
Yes, thanks for the recommendation. BD syringes are almost always unavailable at Diabetic warehouse. They will notify when available which is a great service. Would like to find a place that has in stock at reasonable prices.
 
That's not good to hear.

Has anyone else in NY been able to order from AMSCO?

Someone else posted about not being able to get syringes in NY, so hopefully, no offense, it's just a NY thing.
Sorry, that was about syringes at ADW. Amsco ships Bac water to NY.
 
Yes, thanks for the recommendation. BD syringes are almost always unavailable at Diabetic warehouse. They will notify when available which is a great service. Would like to find a place that has in stock at reasonable prices.
FWIW, I have used BD and EasyTouch, and the EasyTouch they sell at DW are just as good, I think. Super smooth needles that slide right in, good plungers, easy to read markers. If you're in a pinch, you should give them a try!
 

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