For those of you who were referred here via a redditor....

directing newbies to pepchat for help is absurd. It's bedlam there, you're in the vendors house. The only thing they want to help with is how to spend your money. Its fine for keeping up with sales or talking to the vendors when you need to.

Vendors mostly yes... but there's plenty of general chit chat.

No one really has a solution to the "noob" problem. I say let them drink from a firehose.

Is it really that out of line to instruct newcomers that this isn’t a joke, they need to take responsibility for their own education because it involves personal risk assessment about decisions and consequences that only effect them, potentially quite seriously? All in a landscape full of cash grabbing opportunists? It’s not a “friendly” thing to say but the reality is that they’re wandering into a lion’s den with their wallet in hand and health on the line.

I don't think it's out of line to instruct newcomers that they're taking a big step at all.

But then again... there should be plenty of warning signs along the way. "Not for human use". Paying with irreversible methods.

It is irresponsible not to take this approach in my opinion. You can’t spoon feed them whoever your preferred vendor is and then say “but I’m not responsible if you experience bad outcomes!”



Saying...
any "list" of suppliers/vendors is entirely the work of the author(s) and not this forum and will likely be flawed, contain subjective and/or unsubstantiated opinions, and in some cases may be incentivized by payment

I don't see any problem with being factual to newcomers.... "I've used these vendors recently and they delivered". Not really a recommendation so much as it is just stating the facts of who you've transacted with and had some success.

But at the end of the day... the onus is on the noob. No one else should be responsible for anyone else's decisions in life or health. Pushing the blame onto someone else for a bad recommendation or a vendor that's a scammer on the forum is just shirking responsibility for ones own actions.

No one is forcing anyone's hand here.
 
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