Hospira BAC water availability

zpped said:
They aren't autoinjectors. You have complete manual control. You twist the dial to the dosage you want, insert the needle in to your skin, and then push the plunger until it stops.
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ha clearly i did not research this properly! thanks for the info.
 
dionysos said:
You must conclude for yourself @MrsMUffin, my own observation is that Noah from Peptide Shop is mistaken on the facts, an opportunist, and likely an ---hole.

There is good reason to expect that an unopened, unfrozen vial of Bacteriostatic Water for Injection USP kept at room temperature in a dark place will last far longer than one year.
Further...
  • "While it is essential to follow proper storage guidelines and use unexpired solutions whenever possible, using bacteriostatic water past its expiration date is generally safe. The expiration date primarily indicates when the manufacturer guarantees the solution’s stability and potency, but it does not mean the solution becomes immediately harmful once it expires."
    - from Bacteriostatic Water Australia, a leading supplier of BWater.

Benzl Alcohol, the anti-microbial active ingredient in Bac Water, is a very stable molecule. As a reagent-grade lab chemical it is considered to have a shelf life of 3 (three) years unopened, room temperature, dark place etc. Numerous suppliers of lab chemicals make the 3 years unopened statement, some suggest that a re-test is warranted after two years unopened.

Also commonly stated by chemical suppliers is that "shelf life after being opened is One Year".

Much of the angst online about Bacteriostatic Water stems from the FDA labelling requirement for "multiple patient/multiple use" scenario that this product was produced for. The "28-day after first use" expiration label is intended to minimize cross-patient infection, not a concern about product age.

In our "single patient/multiple use" scenario there IS NO RISK of cross-patient infection. In fact there was no short expiry date on Hospira Bac Water vials intended for single patient use until recently. The change of labelling requirement by the FDA was made because of improper institutional use of the "single-user" product for extended periods in large patient populations; there were in fact infection outbreaks as might be expected.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a medical professional. This is not a medical recommendation rather it is a collection of my own observations.
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Here I am. Sooo, I finally decided to order from Peptideshop, mainly because they ship to Europe (the other suppliers mentioned in this thread don't). I received my 10 vials very quickly, but the expiration date is May 2025. Darn you, Noah! 😂
Could the closeness of the expiration date account for the low price?

Hoping this will be helpful to other users: for 10 vials, applying every possible discount, I spent $79.56 (€73.10); plus, having the parcel been shipped to Italy, €32.86 in Fedex fees and VAT.
 
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MrsMUffin said:
Here I am. Sooo, I finally decided to order from Peptideshop, mainly because they ship to Europe (the other suppliers mentioned in this thread don't). I received my 10 vials very quickly, but the expiration date is May 2025. Darn you, Noah! 😂
Could the closeness of the expiration date account for the low price?

Hoping this will be helpful to other users: for 10 vials, applying every possible discount, I spent $79.56 (€73.10); plus, having the parcel been shipped to Italy, €32.86 in Fedex fees and VAT.
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Could you still use it after expiry date if unopened ? if so what's the best way to store it ? im from the uk and struggling to find hospira
 
yaxma said:
Could you still use it after expiry date if unopened ? if so what's the best way to store it ? im from the uk and struggling to find hospir
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This is a question for the manufacturer or for industry specialists. As for me, I am quite confident that bacteriostatic water in intact vials, properly stored, will not turn into poison the exact moment the expiration date strikes.
 
I placed an order with AMSCO on Monday. The status still says processing and nothing has been delivered. Anyone else experiencing a delay?
 
HopeMay said:
I placed an order with AMSCO on Monday. The status still says processing and nothing has been delivered. Anyone else experiencing a delay?
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Yes, placed an order last Friday (8/23) and my order status is still processing.
 
HopeMay said:
I placed an order with AMSCO on Monday. The status still says processing and nothing has been delivered. Anyone else experiencing a delay?
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Mine still shows as Processing 2 weeks after it arrived! Most people got it within a week.

I'd tell you to read back through this thread, but see it's now 13 pages, lol Mostly the same thing over and over.
 
tedtwist said:
I ordered on the 21 of August and still have not received my purchase
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Hopefully they have new stock and exp date is further out. This place must be wondering wtf is going on with hundreds of Bac water orders over the last 2-3 weeks!

Everyone, do please post the exp dates on the Bac water you are receiving from AMSCO!
 
MingHenry said:
I tested another strip 1 mL e-bac, maybe ph of 7? So that's the top end of what is acceptable.
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I think I'd be more concerned about it being sterile than having the right ph. It has benzyl alcohol in it (a by product of oxidizing benzoic acid), so I'd think it should be lower than neutral ph of 7. I'm no chemist, but seems like it should be slightly acidic, no?
 
Update on my AMSCO BAC water:

Received it a week or two ago, shrink wrapped 25 pack, Exp 1-26. Tapped one yesterday out of curiousity, pH strip had it at essentially neutral pH. Shook it to make sure the alcohol was distributed, still essentially neutral 7.0 pH. Tested just 70% IPA to make sure my strips weren't bad and that was around 6.5. Grabbed a BAC from work and it also tested at 7 pH and I know those vials are good (large hospital, climate control, zero UV light storage.) That vial also looked identical to the Hospira I received from AMSCO. I know earlier the range was 5.7 to 7, but if IPA has a pH of 6-7 and BAC is only 0.9% IPA, wouldn't we expect it to have essentially neutral to very, very slightly acidic pH?

I guess my question is if the Bac-water that others tested that also had neutral pH was actually ok.
 
I saw 2 different kinds of hospira Bac water, one w/ additional 0.9% Sodium Chloride.
Can someone tell me what difference between these two bac waters? Usage or ph dif?

I plan to use the bac water for several different peptides including TIRZ.

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Just an FYI I ordered a batch of 25 from AMSCO last night and got an email this morning asking what my business is, etc.... I'm not in a huge hurry so I plan on blowing the email off and waiting to see what happens, but upon further inquiry in some other peptide groups it sounds like they might be getting overwhelmed with orders and starting to filter out some of the individual buyers.
 
geoguy78 said:
Just an FYI I ordered a batch of 25 from AMSCO last night and got an email this morning asking what my business is, etc.... I'm not in a huge hurry so I plan on blowing the email off and waiting to see what happens, but upon further inquiry in some other peptide groups it sounds like they might be getting overwhelmed with orders and starting to filter out some of the individual buyers.
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I also got one of those when I ordered a few weeks ago but I ignored it. Later, I sent them an email asking about my order and they simply stated that they are overwhelmed with orders. I got my shipment a few days later without issue so I would think you would be fine. It might take two weeks to get to you though.
 
geoguy78 said:
Just an FYI I ordered a batch of 25 from AMSCO last night and got an email this morning asking what my business is, etc.... I'm not in a huge hurry so I plan on blowing the email off and waiting to see what happens, but upon further inquiry in some other peptide groups it sounds like they might be getting overwhelmed with orders and starting to filter out some of the individual buyers.
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Don't worry about it. They send that to everyone. I got one the day my shipment arrived lol
 
roake said:
I saw 2 different kinds of hospira Bac water, one w/ additional 0.9% Sodium Chloride.
Can someone tell me what difference between these two bac waters? Usage or ph dif?

I plan to use the bac water for several different peptides including TIRZ.

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that one doesn't have alcohol in it.. it's basically salty water ("Sodium chloride, also known as salt, common salt, table salt or halite")... I'd think that alcohol is a better choice for keeping bacteria away longer
 
Jailbreak7 said:
that one doesn't have alcohol in it.. it's basically salty water ("Sodium chloride, also known as salt, common salt, table salt or halite")... I'd think that alcohol is a better choice for keeping bacteria away longer
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both has b.a, one has sodium chloride AND benzyl alcohol

"contains sodium chloride 9 mg and 0.9% (9 mg/mL) benzyl alcohol"
 
I wish I'd noticed that you could actually buy these individually. I'll never use 25 vials and it feels wasteful. 🙁 (obv. a personal hangup lol)
 
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