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Have you had this batch independently tested by a 3rd party? Never trust vendor tests. Always verify.
Nexaph First Purchase - Retatrutide
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Fill quantity on the COA (Cain’s or your test) should be used for reconstitution and not mg mass on the vial as the overfills can be quite high sometimes and you don’t want to overdose if you’re pinning 15mg. Same can be said about underfills and left wondering why the product isn’t working for you.
noteablequotable
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On a somewhat related note, has anyone tried storing their research product in a shellshot box? Obviously not the intended use, but it could work just the same.
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That was short-lived.
nonyabizznez
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Agree!
Restaurant rule is "appearance is 50% taste"
In peptides "it is what it is" ( 🤞 )
raw_oyster_eater
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where do i have to go to find that. Alabama?
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
Lol hilarious
If you wanna find storage box, I suggest Etsy, here's the one I recently purchased https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/1015387805/feldherr-half-size-case-50-for-vials-67
I should've purchased 2 however given all the new pep I'm ordering aha
nonyabizznez
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Wow! That's a nice one!
Makes my $9 essential oils case look like it came from China!
Oh wait...
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
Except this one probably is anyway but I couldn't find other places ahaha
Shipping is insane (shipped to Canada), but worth it for me anyway
noteablequotable
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Yeah but that's $50 and the one I just shared was $5
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
It's a good idea, honestly never thought about that but I don't know how suspicious that'd be to order that over there aha
nonyabizznez
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If that foam insert were instead an icepack with vial holes you'd have discovered the Holy Grail!
(as long as it were hard sided and fits in a vacuum sealer bag... I'm OCD and need this!)
DwightTheDelight
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I'm storing my peptides in a shotgun shell box, my shotgun shells in a thermos, and my soup in a peptides case. I feel like something went wrong somewhere along the line!
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Hello everyone, we are able to reply now to these threads.
I see many here do not like the cardboard boxes with the plastic inserts, should we go back to the plastic hard cases?
I see many here do not like the cardboard boxes with the plastic inserts, should we go back to the plastic hard cases?
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
Yes! I think it's really helpful for people who don't necessarily have a dedicated storage case already.
nonyabizznez
GLP-1 Specialist
I transfer the product into better options, all the packaging becomes waste... I'd advocate for whatever is best for the environment. Someone might be able to make a buck distributing biodegradable peptide holders (like multi cup holders from McDonald's) I feel extra guilty using Lilly's pens... Talk about waste 💉
DwightTheDelight
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Your post just made me think about how much waste that zepbound pen has saved (despite being wasteful itself). I know at my house we were routinely filling two trashcans a week prior to starting zepbound and now it's routinely one. It's crazy how much food packaging waste we were creating.
I'm really indifferent. I am going to put the vials in my own case. I think the plastic hard cases are beneficial for new users and marketing purposes. I equated the hard case as a sign of quality the first time I saw it. It probably wouldn't mean much for experienced customers or repurchasers as the COA, their own 3rd party testing, and price will drive their opinions (amongst other things....)
The pricing to get either one produced is around the same, the only difference is shipping costs. The plastic hard cases are a bit more since they're bulkier to ship to us while the cardboard boxes are foldable and stackable. We will start using the hard plastic cases in the future more often and keep the cardboard boxes as backups.
Thanks everyone!
Thanks everyone!
What do you mean, if you don’t mind me asking?
I know we can never really trust what COA or test results a vendor gives us, even if it is on the packaging…because how do we know your specific vials you received are indeed the same etc. Aside from doing our own 3rd party test on these, do you have any other tips?
I really like this forum, it has been a wonderful way to learn and absorb! But also feel comfortable asking what may be sometimes stupid questions…I really do appreciate everyone’s input & point of views, it helps me narrow down what I am personally comfortable with. Thank you!! 😊
MrsRoper_1977
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You make a good point. I’ll add that not only do I eat less but we rarely eat out now. I would rather have control over all the ingredients and eat whole foods.
noteablequotable
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I think they just mean that in the past each kit would have a hyperlinked COA that you could access as soon as you received it. That's changed, and you may receive a product before SNP has gotten their test results back.
It's not great as a practice and is probably a result of the fact that demand for their products currently exceeds supply. They are probably sending kits to us as soon as they are back in stock instead of waiting a while. On the flip side they haven't shipped any bad kits yet. I've never had a bad experience with them but hopefully if there were any issues they'd make it right for their customers.
nonyabizznez
GLP-1 Specialist
I think the vendor shipped recent product before the test result came back... Just guessing
Oh, okay that makes sense. Thank you!
I think I bought the same essential oil one as you 😂 It comes tomorrow. I found a nice regular insulin one that zips for the fridge that i liked.
MiniatureSnail
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We eat out the same amount, but now I order appetizers as my entree and almost never drink. Cut that bill over half!
nonyabizznez
GLP-1 Specialist
One of these lunchbox icepacks fits nicely in the lid. I keep the vial bases in contact with the icepack (essentially upside down but store it with the vials sitting on the icepack) I also vacuum seal the case for the freezer... OCD
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Love peptide test but do wish their COAs were easier to read.
either is fine Cain, stuff arrived safely. The plastic cases are way easier though to get the vials out...... all the prodding and pushing with the new packaging - a vial could easily fall on the floor....
I asked the maker of those cases about storing them in the freezer and he said he didn't recommend that at all. I was disappointed because I loved all the foam in them.
GimmeABreak
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I was part of the group buy that included Cain (Nexaph) when these vials were of R12 were purchased. The group is waiting for volunteers to provide vials for testing (I volunteered) and I suspect Cain has already sent one or more of his off to Janoshik on his own. If one of my vials is selected and you DM me in a couple of weeks I can send you a copy of the COA on my tested vial. You can then compare to the Nexaph COA. One or more third party tests should give you a pretty high confidence level in the quality of the product. Per the group rules, I don't think I can post it the results.
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For the record nobody is prohibiting anyone from posting their list, so any change in the availability is entirely up to the individual member.
I will however reiterate previous posts I've made strongly suggesting that any "list" should be used solely as a starting point for people to begin their own due diligence and not just accept the vendor info on such lists as accurate, valid or trustworthy.
There have probably been at least 30 or so folks in the past couple of years who have compiled similar lists, and without fail they always include vendors or suppliers who are well known to have problematic issues whether it's dishonesty, poor test results, altered/falsified test results, poor customer service, theft, etc. but the person compiling the list hasn't been around long enough to know the history behind some of those vendors, hasn't paid close enough attention, or because they personally might have had a good experience ignore what others have said and endorse/promote those bad sellers. I'm not suggesting any of these people have ulterior or nefarious motives, but what I am saying is that often despite their best intentions such lists may have bad information/recommendations so folks need to have a bit of healthy skepticism in these situations and act accordingly.
brittmiche
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It's been over 24hours since RS received 5mg triz.(delivered Friday purchased nexa) and RS WAS HANGRY TODAY. Been researching since sep16 2.5*4 5mg once(trizep prefilled syringe -lost 15lbs in 22days ) now this. Do i give RS another 2.5?
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
This isn't the best thread for protocol support, but if your RS has been on 2.5mg for a while it may be time to move up. 2.5 is an acclimation dose. Your RS could also try more frequent dosing, or stacking with a GLP-1 that offers better appetite suppression. There are lots of options. Your RS subject should also look closely at their diet. If they aren't getting enough nutrients or protein that can contribute to persistent hunger.
brittmiche
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2.5 3x 5 once then this 5 from my order my point is that 5 should be working since it's only my second dose of 5 & the last 5 worked (although different brand) this one dose of 5 is my first dose from this vendor.That is my concern. The batch I just received ...
noteablequotable
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Are you saying that your RS was on 2.5 for 3 weeks and had 1 dose of 5 before they tried this vendor?
There are a lot of variables that can impact your experience including purity, how you calculated your dose, and the actual fill amount of that particular vial. I would recommend posting this in the Tirzepatide forum for additional support.
LouiseBelcher
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For the peptides, I think whatever is economically and environmentally friendly is best since most of us are transferring the vials into a storage container in the freezer anyway. For the aminos, I did appreciate the plastic container, so I didn't have to hunt down enough skincare boxes or empty pill bottles to store the vials in.
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
Uh, that's interesting, did he said why?
jtech007
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Yeah, I would love to know as well as I have that exact one being delivered today for freezer storage.
He didn't say.
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scarywood75
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I don't see what's the issue honestly, it may be just to protect themselves in case it breaks or something
Just passing on what I learned. I was surprised actually.
nonyabizznez
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nonyabizznez
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Mine are doing just fine in the freezer. It's the same nylon exterior that many MFR use for items that include icepacks (lunch boxes, insulin pen storage etc...). Even durable enough to be vacuum sealed (smushed)... If they don't last the long haul I don't care at $10.
Love the cheapie essential oil cases from Amazon, plus nice compact size.
brittmiche
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And why not.What could be the issue here?
Because your RS was at 2.5 for 3 weeks only, then 5mg once, now twice, you need to let your body adjust to the medicine. Most stay on 2.5mg for a month for adjusting to it. Some lose wonderfully at that low loading dose. 5mg for at least a month is the next dose. Many stay on 5mg for a very long time. To have taken 5mg only for the 2d time and then add another 2.5mg on top of it, you'll be at 7.5mg without taking into account what is still in your body from the 2.5mg and 5mg injections. It's a large dose to throw at yourself. Have you looked at half-life plotters? You might want to do some reading into tirzepatide, Zepbound Monjouro, the science and all the anecdotal. Tons of it on Reddit, lots here in the various discussion areas. The medicine doesn't always provide the same effects all the time. And throwing more mgs at your body without proper titrating and some real understanding could result in lots of physical discomfort for you.
brittmiche
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I understand.however the first dose of 5mg (another brand-prefilled pen) same brand as the 2.5s RS lost 22lbs in 15days on worked just fine. So why isn't this 5mg working?
noteablequotable
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And here
It's possible that you did not actually receive 5mg of Tirz based on a variety of factors including how you calculated your dose. It's also possible that there are other things going on with your diet or body that caused hunger suppression to stop. We cannot act as pharmacists or members of your medical care team. The best thing for you to do is
1. Send a vial out for testing to make sure it contains the correct amount of Tirzepatide
2. Check your math. Use a dosing calculator to make sure you did everything correctly
3. Wait. See how you feel after taking your next 5mg dose in a week.
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