Any update on the T15 testing that was supposed to be out on Wednesday?
Nexaph First Purchase - Retatrutide
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noteablequotable
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The only critical thing I can say about Nexaph based on my experiences (I am waiting for some ASC vials before I test) is that they are slow to restock and upload their own test results. Shipping is fast if the item you want is in stock but if it's not you may need to wait a few weeks if you want to buy from them. I don't think they've had BPC-157 for a while.
"Coming soon"
TexBlackByrd13
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Just came in, codes not working yet but I'm not too worried. I'm a former junkie and put way worse in my body even in the worst case scenario. Tell you folks how it treats me soon.
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The vials are sooo pretty- purple and magenta, they just need to add bling somewhere. I know, it's what's inside that counts. I see it says red cap- okay maybe not magenta but close
these are extra from Ravens group buy. they chose Halloween colors
I have to say I was not associating Halloween when I saw them at all- more along the lines of Red Hat ladies.
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We where hoping for a Wednesday report as Janoshik usually has a quick turnaround time. They received our package on Friday. I admit they didn't tell me Wednesday they will be ready, its just what i assumed.
These are not part of Ravens buy, Ravens group buy is for Tirz 15mg and they chose Black caps with purple crimps. That buy will be shipping out to customers on Monday the 21st.
I apologize for this, our finish factory has a production capacity and we arent able to complete everything we are out of stock in at one time. We also need to stagger shipments to ensure no customs issues. We will hopefully catch up soon and be able to have more stock as well. BPC will be in stock on the 18th.
my bad, I saw the purple and remembered the poll in the discord
noteablequotable
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Thank you for remaining active in this thread and continuing to answer our questions. I know there have been issues in the past and many forum members are still angry with you, but the more transparent you are the better things will get over time.
... and when there will be independent 3rd party tests with good results and confirm its inline with the linked tests on kits
scarywood75
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texastimbo
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I ordered Reta 12mg from them last week and had the package within just a few days.
Edit: I pulled out of the freezer. I'm concerned about all the different colors, I'm reading about but the same mg, is that normal? Has anyone sent theirs off yet that has this description of top as these? I guess I'll need to do that soon.
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Swarovski crystals on the vial, like JLo’s water bottles!
noteablequotable
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You have a different dose than the person who had a purple crimp w/ a red cap. According to their photo their vials were 5mg, yours are 15. I am not surprised you have different colors.
Should still send it off for testing though. Test is best!
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Here's 2nd party test for yours. You have 15mg. The other person has 10mg.
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Oof, Dallas Cowboy colors, I'd be worried too... 😉
nonyabizznez
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That Janoshik @nccane kindly posted indicates a 15% overfill, something to factor as you calculate your reconstitution/dose.
leokitcat
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Has any 3rd party testing come back yet for Nexaph?
I'm new enough to all of this and old and wary enough that I'm sending a vial of 10 tirz from the batch I got from Nexaph to peptidetest on Monday unless someone has a reason why Janoshik would be better. I plan to test purity AND if it's sterile. Even with that cost it still works out to way less per vial than I was paying for compounded. Does anyone know if the purity test will come back first and then the sterile test 21 days later or will it take the entire time for all of it to come back? It's going in my freezer for now so the wait is no problem but I'm curious. Wanted to add I did go ahead and order the filters and supplies someone else suggested, does everyone still do the sterile test on every batch they get or do the filters make you feel safe enough to not always do that?
DwightTheDelight
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The latest batch of Ret 12mg test results are in BTW. I'm not sure what is allowed to be shared, so just scan your qr code if you are interested. They look good for what it's worth.
I'm going to take my first dose on Sunday with no additional testing, because I'm not just a fat idiot, I'm also a poor idiot, so if I stop posting, it means I'm dead, so make sure to riot - steal some shoes or burn down a qt, etc
I'm going to take my first dose on Sunday with no additional testing, because I'm not just a fat idiot, I'm also a poor idiot, so if I stop posting, it means I'm dead, so make sure to riot - steal some shoes or burn down a qt, etc
NordicTurtle
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Hey, just fyi latest COA shows purity at about 98% for R12. @Cain_SPC is having the test rerun with Janoshik and if the purity comes back around the same then they will replace the kit.
DwightTheDelight
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Thank you!
Not everything gets posted there. Cain shared them. Then you can then verify on jano site.
But here's a separate link:
DwightTheDelight
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DwightTheDelight
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How worrisome is something like this in your opinion?
It's 98.5. Risk wise...not very. The compunded stuff is probably worse. Marketing/price wise, yes.
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NordicTurtle
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Depends on your level of risk. I wouldn’t say it’s any less safe than a vial at 99% purity but I would personally wait until the next test came back. Really you’re looking at efficacy/fill for these sorts of tests.
With that being said, if you’ve ever used compounded T, sometimes those compounds can be as low as 95% purity. It’s just up to you.
According to Jano, the impurity might be from a new filler we used in this run (Histidine). So we are sending him a new sample along with histidine to make sure of it. Their detection system showed Histidine as an impurity instead of a buffer. So it might just need a recalculation of the sample. But if after recalculation it is still less than 99% purity, we will re ship to everyone who purchased the Reta 12 from this batch.
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If you send it to peptidetest they will get the purity to you quickly (mine was the same day they got the vial) then the sterility test when it is done in 2 weeks.
Reta has usually lower purity, as long as its >98% its OK, even jano basically said its OK
I know I am late to the party, but just want to throw out there that I have nothing but positive things to say about Cain and Nexaph, thus far. From user interface to shipping and overall responsiveness. So far, its been one of the best vendor interactions I've had.
Marota11
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Yes, whatever she said doesn’t sound that bad, folks need to have a little more patience when someone new asks question, we’re here to help each other. Stop whining people.
LouiseBelcher
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Marota11
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Fixed, thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks so much for that, I scanned it yesterday and it wouldn't come up. Much appreciated.
noteablequotable
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I love the QR codes but they can be a little finicky for me.
Wait to see 3rd party test results to see if they actually have any value.
Also, you should disclose that you are Cain's alt account.
noteablequotable
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Can you guys stop making things up? According to your account you're a normal user. The only people who would have access to information that might substantiate a claim like that are the admins/mods and you're definitely NOT one of those.
Mod here. Can’t say for sure that this is the vendor because he learned to use a VPN after his alt account usage was discovered before. It’s just as likely they’re users being driven from other platforms to push the vendor, and not the vendor himself, so IP addresses don’t tell us much anyway.
I can say that there have been a lot of fresh accounts with very kind things to say about nexaph (I haven’t looked closely but last night there were at least two posts like this from different accounts where it was the only message they ever posted) so recommend to anyone hunting for vendors to evaluate the credibility of reviewers when you see them. Thats just last night, there has been a lot of this going on. We will be getting this likely brigading/shillery behavior under control soon. In the meantime just keep your peepers peeled, there is a lot of money at stake and vendors know that the lifetime value of your business is enormous, they’ll go to great lengths to keep you from going elsewhere. And the dishonest ones will do so in a dishonest fashion.
This is the problem with dishonest people, it can be hard to give them the benefit of the doubt when you see questionable behavior.
I see people with super low post counts that have the "Research Expert" badges chime in on random vendors/manufacturers. Seemingly with shill-like behavior.
I also see brand new accounts logging in to say disparaging things about other vendors or members of this forum.
Any well-developed social engineering accounts will be difficult to distinguish from regular activity.
I also see brand new accounts logging in to say disparaging things about other vendors or members of this forum.
Any well-developed social engineering accounts will be difficult to distinguish from regular activity.
The research expert badge is individually granted by Zippity based on his experience with you. I don’t know if he has a checklist of criteria or if it’s vibes, but when you see it it means that he decided to grant it. Low post count probably means it’s someone he has experience with on a different platform. Knowing Zippity I read it as someone he trusts not to be a shill, and who has been around long enough to have developed their own informed opinions, but those might be opinions he disagrees with.
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noteablequotable
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Thank you for the taking steps to protect the community from this kind of activity bee. Very early in my career I worked at a big tech Co and it was my job to identify and quarantine fake accounts. It can be painful and thankless work even when there are clear patterns of behavior that make the accounts easy to identify. It's definitely a full time job.
I understand that Nexaph has earned extra scrutiny and I'm perfectly fine with that, what's upsetting to me is that these accusations, some of which absolutely crumble upon inspection, are damaging my ability to take other forum members seriously. The most valuable thing about forums like this is that even when we can't trust vendors we can trust each other and the experiences we report. It's starting to seem like the people who are overly eager to catch Nexaph doing something bad NOW are "crying wolf" and can't be trusted because they actually hate him too much to be objective. It's damaging their credibility, not his.
I'm not suggesting that anyone stop criticizing the company, I just wish folks would take their foot off the gas a bit and present their concerns with less vitriol and more evidence.
Yeah... then people who are trying to do good for the community are run down because the vendor's "rating" is wrong. And the critics decide it is time to impose their personal set of values on others and resort to ad hominem or other logical fallacies when others are unwilling to adopt the critics personal set of values.
Nothing new here. How many times have you had the best of intentions when warning someone about another just to have it blow up in your face?
People see what they want to see.
I do believe in second chances in most cases. Nexaph seems to deliver good products at good prices. And own up to mistakes such as mislabeling, or purity levels not meeting standards.
@noteablequotable Unlike most vendors nexaph is allowed on the general forum to respond to accusations, so that’s something. Personally i try not to make a habit of unsubstantiated accusation, definitely call me out if you find me doing so. But I also am not prepared to sit back and allow brigading and shillery on the site just because the perpetrator uses a vpn, or is having loyal customers make posts on their behalf, or otherwise makes it hard to prove definitively. There is a certain amount of looking, walking, and quacking like a duck that is hard to overlook, and two users with no prior posts defending a vendor with this history and patterns within hours of one another does fall into that category. This isn’t the first time it’s happened either.
@brentm Just because you don’t want to hear it doesn’t mean it’s an unfair thing to say. This vendor’s dishonest behavior has been divisive, some care some don’t, and that’s ok to discuss and disagree about, but don’t go acting like the nexaph critics have no leg to stand on and are simply throwing ad hominem around, or conversely that the defenders are not guilty of that. I could easily cite quite a few ad hominem attacks coming from your account. This is a tired-ass conversation and I hope it can stop soon. I’m working on making that happen, appreciate if you can do your part in the meantime and stop fanning the flames.
So with all of that said at the moment there isn’t a desire to censor or ban because that MIGHT be an over correction — tbd — so the best I can do is point out the duck when it quacks. It would be negligent not to given what is ostensibly going on here.
@brentm Just because you don’t want to hear it doesn’t mean it’s an unfair thing to say. This vendor’s dishonest behavior has been divisive, some care some don’t, and that’s ok to discuss and disagree about, but don’t go acting like the nexaph critics have no leg to stand on and are simply throwing ad hominem around, or conversely that the defenders are not guilty of that. I could easily cite quite a few ad hominem attacks coming from your account. This is a tired-ass conversation and I hope it can stop soon. I’m working on making that happen, appreciate if you can do your part in the meantime and stop fanning the flames.
So with all of that said at the moment there isn’t a desire to censor or ban because that MIGHT be an over correction — tbd — so the best I can do is point out the duck when it quacks. It would be negligent not to given what is ostensibly going on here.
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