QSC is screwing around over a $135 credit!

OMG. And you’re doubly at fault for waiting. Do you think this is Amazon and your order history is backed up on a hard drive somewhere? If it was wouldn’t that actually be worse?

Who cares? You fucked up. Multiple times. By choosing a low service vendor, by sending btc, by waiting. And now by posting all this nonsense here.

Just suck it up. Factor your loss into your average cost and you’re still way ahead. Or if you really feel you got absolutely shafted, choose a different vendor.

I honestly don’t understand your thinking. You’re like the kid chasing John Cusack down the mountain. “I want my 2 dollars!” Are you old enough to get that reference?
 
geoguy78 said:
All of these vendors suck. It's not just QSC. Amo putting out product that stings, QSC taking on order volumes that they struggle with and the inevitable customer service nightmares that ensue, SRY being indicted for narcotrafficking and shipping people incorrect product.... the list goes on. We're not dealing with Amazon here. I've been very happy with my own personal dealings with QSC and I'll use them again at some point. But that doesn't mean I'm going to stick my head in the sand and ignore their shortcomings.
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Don’t ignore them, just accept them and act accordingly. My shady overseas drug dealer sells me $13200 “worth” of tirz for $275.

Before he did that, the other shady overseas drug dealers were charging me $2000 and I still paid it, cause I had no better options.

And yet we bitch, over what we knew going in, or didn’t know because we refused to read the directions?

Ugh. I’m just stocking up, cause these dipshits are exactly the type to call the fbi over the drug money they wired to the wrong drop box.
 
Glp1judd said:
OMG. And you’re doubly at fault for waiting. Do you think this is Amazon and your order history is backed up on a hard drive somewhere? If it was wouldn’t that actually be worse?

Who cares? You fucked up. Multiple times. By choosing a low service vendor, by sending btc, by waiting. And now by posting all this nonsense here.

Just suck it up. Factor your loss into your average cost and you’re still way ahead. Or if you really feel you got absolutely shafted, choose a different vendor.

I honestly don’t understand your thinking. You’re like the kid chasing John Cusack down the mountain. “I want my 2 dollars!” Are you old enough to get that reference?
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Omg - I remember when John Cusack was tiger beat pin up cute — *sigh*
 
Glp1judd said:
OMG. And you’re doubly at fault for waiting. Do you think this is Amazon and your order history is backed up on a hard drive somewhere? If it was wouldn’t that actually be worse?

Who cares? You fucked up. Multiple times. By choosing a low service vendor, by sending btc, by waiting. And now by posting all this nonsense here.

Just suck it up. Factor your loss into your average cost and you’re still way ahead. Or if you really feel you got absolutely shafted, choose a different vendor.

I honestly don’t understand your thinking. You’re like the kid chasing John Cusack down the mountain. “I want my 2 dollars!” Are you old enough to get that reference?
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I think you really have poor reading comprehension. I've repeatedly said I'm not looking to get compensated.

The waiting, as I also said is because THEY had a PRE-ORDER so I HAD TO wait for the product.

I already said I'm going with a different vendor.

The whole point of this post is to create awareness of this issue, AS I ALSO ALREADY SAID.

Sorry I'm bashing on your crush Tracy, maybe you'll get a discount for your boot licking loyalty.
 
Bronco said:
You’re seriously comparing Amazon Prime to QSC, what a goofball. Did you get dropped on your head as a kid?
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Would you say you prefer the taste of the leather, the rubber, or the dried dog shit stuck to the bottom of the boot?
 
glpfun said:
Im not missing that, I’m well aware and have placed many orders myself. We as a community can set a higher bar than that, they don't make their money without us and as consumers we can set the terms as long as people aren’t making excuses for them. It’s not like they’re saving money by providing less customer service when they eventually have to deal with these snafus. The real issue here is people just bending over saying “this is just how things are” instead of pushing back on vendors to fix their process. The whole explanation around multiple sales teams or whatever is bullshit.
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I mean the market has a voice, and that voice says “spank me daddy tracy.” They’re doing something right. I prefer a surly sales rep who is straightforward about their commitments and capabilities over all the two faced “I’m selling you peptides because I want to give back to the community, I’ll test every batch i promise, oopsie doopsie that one was a presale, oh sorry im using random excipients for unknown reasons, triple tested every time except that batch” guys who you seem to want tracy to act like. Tracy doesn’t suffer fools which is a feature to lots of us.
 
violetv said:
The whole point of this post is to create awareness of this issue, AS I ALSO ALREADY SAID.
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Well you failed to do that. Take your ball and go home. You’ve only managed to raise awareness for how much of a clown you are. You’re not here to constructively raise awareness, you’re here to throw a pity party. All you’ve done is cry, whine, and complain about something from 3 months ago.
 
Bronco said:
Well you failed to do that. Take your ball and go home. You’ve only managed to raise awareness for how much of a clown you are. You’re not here to constructively raise awareness, you’re here to throw a pity party. All you’ve done is cry, whine, and complain about something from 3 months ago.
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You've got to be just glp1judd's alt account.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
I mean the market has a voice, and that voice says “spank me daddy tracy.” They’re doing something right. I prefer a surly sales rep who is straightforward about their commitments and capabilities over all the two faced “I’m selling you peptides because I want to give back to the community, I’ll test every batch i promise, oopsie doopsie that one was a presale, oh sorry im using random excipients for unknown reasons, triple tested every time except that batch” guys who you seem to want tracy to act like. Tracy doesn’t suffer fools which is a feature to lots of us.
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And the aggressive pricing strategy has benefited us all - no matter which vendor we choose.
 
Both of these things can be true at the same time:

1) QSC is a valuable entity to have in the community because of their aggressive pricing and no-nonsense attitude allowing for relatively easy ordering at low prices.

2) QSC can have business practices that are not great, such as not honoring a credit for a bitcoin payment at the value it was received at, despite bitcoin being worth more now than when it was sent.


I like QSC! You can agree that the net balance for QSC is good while also being unbiased to note that this situation is some bullshit. Relatively minor bullshit, but still bullshit. And you should really re-evaluate your stance on any sort of corporation that you are just another customer for if you go so far as to not only refuse to admit that a business practice was bad, but suggest that you should view it as a positive thing like they deserved a tip.

Your Chinese drug dealer is selling you this shit to make a profit. Don't get it twisted. They're not doing it to promote the health and wellness of their customers. They are making money. Save your tips for your pizza delivery driver. Not your corporate drug dealer. I didn't even tip my regular drug dealers, except for that one time my cousin drove 30 minutes out of her way to bring some shrooms out to the lake.
 
Glp1judd said:
Yeah I still have a kit of t30 from the before times. I’m cost averaging down. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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This is why I haven’t jumped on the Reta train just yet. Prices keep dropping, although with the new administration and tariffs, it will be interesting to see what happens.
 
hexagonal said:
Both of these things can be true at the same time:

1) QSC is a valuable entity to have in the community because of their aggressive pricing and no-nonsense attitude allowing for relatively easy ordering at low prices.

2) QSC can have business practices that are not great, such as not honoring a credit for a bitcoin payment at the value it was received at, despite bitcoin being worth more now than when it was sent.


I like QSC! You can agree that the net balance for QSC is good while also being unbiased to note that this situation is some bullshit. Relatively minor bullshit, but still bullshit. And you should really re-evaluate your stance on any sort of corporation that you are just another customer for if you go so far as to not only refuse to admit that a business practice was bad, but suggest that you should view it as a positive thing like they deserved a tip.

Your Chinese drug dealer is selling you this shit to make a profit. Don't get it twisted. They're not doing it to promote the health and wellness of their customers. They are making money. Save your tips for your pizza delivery driver. Not your corporate drug dealer. I didn't even tip my regular drug dealers, except for that one time my cousin drove 30 minutes out of her way to bring some shrooms out to the lake.
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I dunno. Sometimes, the only thing more fun than abusing my stupid customers is abusing someone else’s.
 
Glp1judd said:
I dunno. Sometimes, the only thing more fun than abusing my stupid customers is abusing someone else’s.
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I'm fine with someone criticizing QSC for not standing up for their product. Basically Tracy has said that if a sales rep (as opposed to the people who work under him) does something wrong, there is no one to complain to. I'm not critical of Tracy because Tracy does stand up for his product. His customer service doesn't involve much hand-holding and payment options can be difficult. Yet those are knows risks with using Tracy. But you get what you pay for when you buy from Tracy. As to Tracy acting in his self-interest, that can be said for most people in any sort of business.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
Hasn’t benefited me because my dumb ass bought up all the tirz before the prices fell 🙁
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At least your smart enough not to buy more when you have a huge stockpile. For folks like me who are on tirzepatide, we may want to try reta or CagriSema after they become FDA approved; perhaps waiting another year after they start sales in the US will give us a better idea how they really work.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
I mean the market has a voice, and that voice says “spank me daddy tracy.” They’re doing something right. I prefer a surly sales rep who is straightforward about their commitments and capabilities over all the two faced “I’m selling you peptides because I want to give back to the community, I’ll test every batch i promise, oopsie doopsie that one was a presale, oh sorry im using random excipients for unknown reasons, triple tested every time except that batch” guys who you seem to want tracy to act like. Tracy doesn’t suffer fools which is a feature to lots of us.
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I agree: I distrust sales people immediately who pretend like they are acting mainly because they want to help people. I do not mean to suggest that there are no ethical sales people; there are many. However, those in sales are trying to make money.
 
glpfun said:
all I’m going to say is that everyone defending qsc for what is objectively bad customer experience is a bootlicker. Don’t worry daddy Tracy will still sell you things even if you’re critical of them. No vendor should be placed on a pedestal that absolves them from shitty behavior just because they are cheaper and you’ve had a good anecdotal experiences. The vendors are not doing you any favors, they aren’t your friends, you are a paypig for them. Treat them just as critically as you would any other vendor, if you let them get away with these non sensical excuses they will continue to do it. You should be having each others backs when it comes to vendor complaints not shilling your favorite vendor

FWIW when it comes to oils most people lose the money they saved in supplies and time spent filtering.
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I could hug you @glpfun! Very well said!

I get better service at Harbour Freight and that is cheap Chinese crap too. Don't give any vendor a pass.
 
I've noticed some improvements with QSC communication. My first purchase was no good. Sent Bitcoin and by the time they confirmed receipt they also confirmed all the items I ordered were out of stock. LUCKILY, I got my Bitcoin back 10 days later and it had increased in value 30%. I placed another order and paid with USDC so far the sales staff has confirmed everything very quickly.
My advice is know what you what, pay for it quickly, and don't be needy.
 
glpfun said:
all I’m going to say is that everyone defending qsc for what is objectively bad customer experience is a bootlicker. Don’t worry daddy Tracy will still sell you things even if you’re critical of them. No vendor should be placed on a pedestal that absolves them from shitty behavior just because they are cheaper and you’ve had a good anecdotal experiences. The vendors are not doing you any favors, they aren’t your friends, you are a paypig for them. Treat them just as critically as you would any other vendor, if you let them get away with these non sensical excuses they will continue to do it. You should be having each others backs when it comes to vendor complaints not shilling your favorite vendor

FWIW when it comes to oils most people lose the money they saved in supplies and time spent filtering.
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You think the bootlicking is bad with QSC... should see the SRY server on Discord. At least Alan sends customers jade bracelets, cool shirts and ceramic bowls.... (I am not kidding about that part)
 
yelloeyes said:
You think the bootlicking is bad with QSC... should see the SRY server on Discord. At least Alan sends customers jade bracelets, cool shirts and ceramic bowls.... (I am not kidding about that part)
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Alan is giving away TVs and prizes. Every time I say I'm done with those guys there's a new giveaway or promo
 
raw_oyster_eater said:
is that what this is about?
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I thought the user was trying to obtain the credit back or the item for the actual cost of said item at the time of purchase, which is irrelevant to the payment type then. Which seems very reasonable and fair. So I'm not sure why anyone is defending QSC(Alisa).

The only part I'd say is OP did use another rep so its not really a Tracy problem at all. Makes you wonder if all the QSC problems now are with Alisa and not actually Tracy though 🤣
 
Vicki said:
I thought the user was trying to obtain the credit back or the item for the actual cost of said item at the time of purchase, which is irrelevant to the payment type then. Which seems very reasonable and fair. So I'm not sure why anyone is defending QSC(Alisa).
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this is not even computing with me. but after 10 pages and thousands of posts you'd think we'd have a handle on what the OP's problem is. This one thread is like 80% of the traffic on the site.
 
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raw_oyster_eater said:
is that what this is about?
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That is my understanding of the situation. Payment was sent in bitcoin for an item, the item sold out in the interim, and a credit was given to be used towards a future order. Fast forward, and the credit had reduced in value from $135 to $97, despite not being informed of there being a time limit on using the credit or there even being a logical reason why the credit would be worth less, as the payment should have increased in value over this time due to BTC increasing in value.
 
Nikki nik said:
Are you hiring? Do you need another assistant?
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Lullabytreehugger said:
This is the reason why I will not use a seller who does not have paypal. Qsc you are becoming a scammer company.
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This is why I asked for explicit confirmation. @Qingdao Sigma this whole fiasco came from a completely different sales team with QSC, and that team sets it's own policies. It does sound like OP is being jerked around, but not by Tracy. He had nothing to do with this at all.
 
raw_oyster_eater said:
this is not even computing with me. but after 10 pages and thousands of posts you'd think we'd have a handle on what the OP's problem is. This one thread is like 80% of the traffic on the site.
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If you don’t know what the issue is by this page I question whether you read the pages, it’s been stated and repeated several times
 
glpfun said:
If you don’t know what the issue is by this page I question whether you read the pages, it’s been stated and repeated several times
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some sort of anal retentive shit about bitcoin.

i guess you couldn't summarize in one sentence for people who have a life and don't want to read 10 pages of bellyaching? its too hard?
 
Lullabytreehugger said:
This is the reason why I will not use a seller who does not have paypal. Qsc you are becoming a scammer company.
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You’re really a piece of work. Do you even think through anything you say?

Good luck finding a drug dealer that takes PayPal and lasts more than a few months.

You realize this isn’t exactly PayPal sanctioned activity, right?
 
Vicki said:
I thought the user was trying to obtain the credit back or the item for the actual cost of said item at the time of purchase, which is irrelevant to the payment type then. Which seems very reasonable and fair. So I'm not sure why anyone is defending QSC(Alisa).

The only part I'd say is OP did use another rep so its not really a Tracy problem at all. Makes you wonder if all the QSC problems now are with Alisa and not actually Tracy though 🤣
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Thing is, who else knew that Alisa and Tracy operate independently? That's great if these types of issues don't happen with Tracy but how many people know that they should only deal with Tracy?

If someone is told to buy from QSC then goes straight to their website's contact us page, you get Alisa's contact.

So how does something like this get fixed?
 
violetv said:
Thing is, who else knew that Alisa and Tracy operate independently? That's great if these types of issues don't happen with Tracy but how many people know that they should only deal with Tracy?

If someone is told to buy from QSC then goes straight to their website's contact us page, you get Alisa's contact.

So how does something like this get fixed?
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I never thought to even order from their website cause I half thought it was bullshit contact info anyway.

Have you ever clicked the product list on the website? On top of selling chemicals and food additives they also sell bulldozers and excavators lol. Every link sends you to 404 error.

Also the website mailing address is in florida.
 
Vicki said:
I never thought to even order from their website cause I half thought it was bullshit contact info anyway.

Have you ever clicked the product list on the website? On top of selling chemicals and food additives they also sell bulldozers and excavators lol. Every link sends you to 404 error.

Also the website mailing address is in florida.
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Yeah, it wasn't directed at you but I got the Alisa email address years ago from somewhere, probably another forum.

Point is, how was I (or anyone else) suppose to know that QSC Alisa and QSC Tracy are basically different companies?
 
violetv said:
Thing is, who else knew that Alisa and Tracy operate independently? That's great if these types of issues don't happen with Tracy but how many people know that they should only deal with Tracy?

If someone is told to buy from QSC then goes straight to their website's contact us page, you get Alisa's contact.

So how does something like this get fixed?
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Use the “search” function on this forum. Plenty of posts warning against using Alisa.
 
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