We're Bashing SRY this time.

[exploitedworkerbee]

Please quote specifically where I categorically said that any "hotpack" scenario is "no big deal".

Ok

Even if the hotpack claim is true, it doesn't result in any harm to someone who's received 20+ seizure letters in the past. Therefore, it just seems to be a distraction

 

[brentm]

Ok

Sorry if I was unclear in that statement. It was referencing these screens.

Categorically, I've referred to the practice as "abhorrent". Please review my first post in this thread for that information.

For convenience I will link where I stated that the practice is abhorrent.

Post in thread 'We're Bashing SRY this time.'

Dec 11, 2024

I believe the smear campaign on SRYLAB is fake news.

The story doesn't make logical sense and it doesn't pass Hanlon's Razor. Someone who has self-admittedly received 20+ customs letters already receives one more. There's absolutely no way to attribute this behavior and action to Alan.

Long story short, it is my belief by the evidence I have seen that this person falsely accused Alan of hotpacking. And was unable to furnish any evidence to prove this allegation.

Besides, why would you hotpack someone with a box marked "steroids"? Hypothetically, if anyone was in a position and...

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[penewbie]

I’m sorry but what on god’s green earth are you talking about? If the hot pack claim is true and this vendor made an attempt—however hamfisted it turned out to be—to get law enforcement eyeballs on a customer, that is just about the most heinous thing a vendor can do aside from sending literal poison. Your take here really demonstrates how bad a handle you have on all of this.

I had to quote this because I feel like giving a simple thumbs up isn't doing enough justice to how much I agree with this.

Unbelievable someone would actually try to minimize a vendor possibly doing this shit.

It's nuts.

 

[noteablequotable]

I don't know how any of that is controversial, and I've been shocking consistent about this position. From oldest to newest:

"Double down on what? I legitimately have no clue what happened here, but I don't think the fact that this OG appears to be an asshole necessarily makes him a lying asshole."

"No, we know nothing, and nothing has been solved."

"I still don't believe that we have enough information to know what happened here"

"As much as this guy does not seem great, he could also be telling the truth. We don't have enough information to really understand what went on so that's my current stance: I don't know."

"That doesn't mean he's lying, it just means we can't prove he's telling the truth."

This was me quoting all of my other posts from this thread (the old fashioned way) where I said I don't think there are enough facts to support a conclusion

I'd discourage you from trying to conclude the intentions of the post and the person.

Their intent is clear. It may not be malicious but they were absolutely attempting to influence the direction of the conversation without identifying themselves. That makes it difficult to evaluate their credibility and motives. You can see pretty much everything I've written about this on public forums attached to the same name. I stand behind what I'm saying.

Date altercation started

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This is the thing I'm disputing and I don't know why you're pinning your conclusions to this. It is possible that Alan and Gibs started fighting about this elsewhere and it only spilled over to discord on 21 October. We don't know, and the only way to know would be to get access to their communications.

Timeline inconsistency.

Here's an example of someone else's timeline for a seizure letter.

These are not screenshots of things Gibs said. These are unattributed screenshots of text from a platform that looks like discord. We can't conclude anything from this at all.

 

[brentm]

I had to quote this because I feel like giving a simple thumbs up isn't doing enough justice to how much I agree with this.

Unbelievable someone would actually try to minimize a vendor possibly doing this shit.

It's nuts.

Read my response. I've already stated that it is "abhorrent" as a practice.

Your message is uninformed and wrong. Please stop trying to misconstrue my words.

 

[brentm]

This was me quoting all of my other posts from this thread (the old fashioned way) where I said I don't think there are enough facts to support a conclusion

Their intent is clear. It may not be malicious but they were absolutely attempting to influence the direction of the conversation without identifying themselves. That makes it difficult to evaluate their credibility and motives. You can see pretty much everything I've written about this on public forums attached to the same name. I stand behind what I'm saying.

This is the thing I'm disputing and I don't know why you're pinning your conclusions to this. It's is possible that Alan and Gibs started fighting about this elsewhere and it only spilled over to discord on 21 October. We don't know, and the only way to know would be to get access to their communications.

These are not screenshots of things Gibs said. These are unattributed screenshots of text from a platform that looks like discord. We can't conclude anything from this at all.

Fair.

In conclusion, I think our time would be better served digging deeper into the other issues that have been raised than continuing this conversation about the hotpack scenario.

Please note: For those with comprehension difficulties. The practice of HOTPACKING IS ABHORRENT.

 

[penewbie]

Read my response. I've already stated that it is "abhorrent" as a practice.

Your message is uninformed and wrong. Please stop trying to misconstrue my words.

I didn't misconstrue your words, here they are, in all their glory:

The hotpack issue just seems to be a nothingburger overall when compared contrasted against the other claims. Even if the hotpack claim is true, it doesn't result in any harm to someone who's received 20+ seizure letters in the past. Therefore, it just seems to be a distraction, and the real crime is probably all the time that is spent discussing it.

This comment utterly insane. You not seeing just how insane it is, is part of the insanity.

 

[brentm]

I didn't misconstrue your words, here they are, in all their glory:


This comment utterly insane. You not seeing just how insane it is, is part of the insanity.

You're just manipulating and misconstruing my words. You're not adding any value to this conversation whatsoever. I'm done responding to you.

 

[penewbie]

You're just manipulating and misconstruing my words. You're not adding any value to this conversation whatsoever. I'm done responding to you.

Literally just quoted you, word for word.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Literally just quoted you, word for word.

I read the words the same way you did, hence my response. But I gather @brentm didn’t mean them the way we have interpreted it, considering his unequivocal follow up about hot packs being unacceptable. I’m not sure what he meant but I also don’t really think it matters since the really abhorrent interpretation isn’t the correct one.

 

[Flossy079]

I read the words the same way you did, hence my response. But I gather @brentm didn’t mean them the way we have interpreted it, considering his unequivocal follow up about hot packs being unacceptable. I’m not sure what he meant but I also don’t really think it matters since the really abhorrent interpretation isn’t the correct one.

Sorry I should have used the same username but I assumed everyone would realise it’s me …Krysia …sorry my fault. Anyway I’ve concluded my investigation finally in Swiss

 

[Flossy079]

Obstinate and wrong is what this scene is all about.

The butthurt incident was 22 October and the seizure was 23 . Now I’ll leave it up to people to decide for themselves whether he actually thought that the pack was already in customs the next day . Which ever shipping line this is I’d like to know

 

[zpped]

The butthurt incident was 22 October and the seizure was 23 . Now I’ll leave it up to people to decide for themselves whether he actually thought that the pack was already in customs the next day . Which ever shipping line this is I’d like to know

You're assuming the callout on discord was the beginning. Thats a huge assumption.

 

[keangkong]

Sorry I should have used the same username but I assumed everyone would realise it’s me …Krysia …sorry my fault. Anyway I’ve concluded my investigation finally in Swiss

I typically avoid using the same usernames in different locations. But if I had a good reputation like you do, I might use the same username.

 

[Flossy079]

You're assuming the callout on discord was the beginning. Thats a huge assumption.

I have shown the evidence in Swiss where Gibs says Alan got butthurt and sent the Hot pack and then I have proved with screenshots that the butt hurt incident was 22. As I keep saying I’m just trying to prove that the hot pack was not sent by Alan nothing else

 

[Flossy079]

I have shown the evidence in Swiss where Gibs says Alan got butthurt and sent the Hot pack and then I have proved with screenshots that the butt hurt incident was 22. As I keep saying I’m just trying to prove that the hot pack was not sent by Alan nothing else

And as I pointed out seized goods are often Called S…ds even when they are not so we can’t even be 100% sure what was in the seized shipment

 

[noteablequotable]

Sorry I should have used the same username but I assumed everyone would realise it’s me …Krysia …sorry my fault. Anyway I’ve concluded my investigation finally in Swiss

No need to apologize. I was a little aggressive but you accidentally tripped one of my fraud sensors, lol. Appreciate you confirming your identity.

I haven't had the opportunity to look at your updated investigation yet but no matter where I ultimately land I respect and appreciate your work. I also don't think your initial dismissal of Gibs was unreasonable given Gibs' presentation as a hostile witness who was actively harassing Alan (even if he thought he was justified in doing it).

 

[zpped]

I have shown the evidence in Swiss where Gibs says Alan got butthurt and sent the Hot pack and then I have proved with screenshots that the butt hurt incident was 22. As I keep saying I’m just trying to prove that the hot pack was not sent by Alan nothing else

I've read your findings and its mostly accurate. The only fact you got wrong is informed delivery is available for more than just usps.

But you made assumptions based off some facts that were fawed. It doesn't negate your conclusion but if you're goal is to be accurate (which I believe it is) they should be acknowledged.

You're using the time between Gibs calling out Alan on discord and the customs letter as reasoning that it's too short. But there is an equally plausible conclusion that Gibs and Alan were fighting in private before that even happened.

 

[Chub24Skin25]

I have shown the evidence in Swiss where Gibs says Alan got butthurt and sent the Hot pack and then I have proved with screenshots that the butt hurt incident was 22. As I keep saying I’m just trying to prove that the hot pack was not sent by Alan nothing else

Can’t wait to see the resolution and reveal of the ‘mastermind behind Gibs trying to bring the vendor down’ case, as you mentioned on your server. At least, the vendor appreciate your support and is openly thanking you for defending him! How fortunate.

 

[hexagonal]

And as I pointed out seized goods are often Called S…ds even when they are not so we can’t even be 100% sure what was in the seized shipment

the word steroid isn't banned on this forum