Nexaph First Purchase - Retatrutide

[dionysos]

I've just received my kit of 12mg Retatrutide from Shanghai Nexa Pharmaceuticals.
Ordered Monday morning at 8:19am and delivered in 3 days and 4 hours from their US depot.

EXCELLENT packaging and the KIT LABEL COMPLETE WITH JANO COA HYPERLINK !
Use your phone camera on the jpg - it WORKS QUICKLY.

This is a first from a Chinese Vendor in my experience and a trend that I hope and expect to develop quickly.

 

[Tomes]

Not to create drama but is this the infamous vendor with the questionable US-based rep that stirred quite the GB controversy? Did you buy from a different rep?

 

[dionysos]

You'll have to explain the drama to me @Tomes, I haven't kept up with hesaid-shesaid on this one.
And it does seem to me that you are starting some drama here. Is it necessary?

 

[meowTime]

I really love how multiple people are trying to stir shit up about Nexaph but won't link to anything or even say anything about what happened. Way to be helpful guys.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

I'd like to know. Not for the sake if creating drama, I'd just like to have as much info as possible. I was considering buying from this vendor, but some things I've read are giving me pause. If I had all the info, I could better understand if this is a whole lotta nothing, or something to really be concerned about.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

I really love how multiple people are trying to stir shit up about Nexaph but won't link to anything or even say anything about what happened. Way to be helpful guys.

Yes, if you're gonna spill the tea, SPILL THE TEA lol. I'm not denying that there's some shit to share, but the more info or links or something, the better. I'm still pretty new to this world and the information overload is real. My brain is fried. I can't keep track of what I read about which vendor until I'm actually ready to purchase from them.

 

[dionysos]

I'd like to know. Not for the sake if creating drama, I'd just like to have as much info as possible. I was considering buying from this vendor, but some things I've read are giving me pause. If I had all the info, I could better understand if this is a whole lotta nothing, or something to really be concerned about.

Yes, if you're gonna spill the tea, SPILL THE TEA lol. I'm not denying that there's some shit to share, but the more info or links or something, the better. I'm still pretty new to this world and the information overload is real. My brain is fried. I can't keep track of what I read about which vendor until I'm actually ready to purchase from them.

Well I can only agree with you both.
I want the Joe Friday facts if they exist. Otherwise it is just gossip and I don't welcome it.

The facts before us are that Shanghai Nexa Pharma have first rate ecommerce capabilities, a US Depot that communicates and delivers quickly, Janoshik COAs in place BEFORE Group and Promo Buys are initiated.

Additional and to their credit they have quickly responded to cleanup the few minor errors that have occurred that I'm aware of. Could something go wrong with an order or batch of peptides made today? SURE! We live in a human world which means error. At The Moment Nexa appear to be a responsible vendor and respond appropriately - I've made riskier bets than buying from them, I assure you.

NOT A SMALL THING: - Being the First Chinese Vendor in my experience to Hyperlink their kits to Janoshik COAs BEFORE they are advertised for a Group Buy positions them in the Top Tier of Quality Aware Vendors.

Will NEXA continue to perform as they have begun? We will ALL have to stay tuned to find out.

 

[RedSkip]

Well I can only agree with you both.
I want the Joe Friday facts if they exist. Otherwise it is just gossip and I don't welcome it.

The facts before us are that Shanghai Nexa Pharma have first rate ecommerce capabilities, a US Depot that communicates and delivers quickly, Janoshik COAs in place BEFORE Group and Promo Buys are initiated.

Additional and to their credit they have quickly responded to cleanup the few minor errors that have occurred that I'm aware of. Could something go wrong with an order or batch of peptides made today? SURE! We live in a human world which means error. At The Moment Nexa appear to be a responsible vendor and respond appropriately - I've made riskier bets than buying from them, I assure you.

NOT A SMALL THING: - Being the First Chinese Vendor in my experience to Hyperlink their kits to Janoshik COAs BEFORE they are advertised for a Group Buy positions them in the Top Tier of Quality Aware Vendors.

Will NEXA continue to perform as they have begun? We will ALL have to stay tuned to find out.

I read somewhere that Nexaph is a front for a group of GBers that order from other group. It’s and rebrand/markup in the states. Can’t confirm or deny, just was I recall.

 

[ItzJay]

I read somewhere that Nexaph is a front for a group of GBers that order from other group. It’s and rebrand/markup in the states. Can’t confirm or deny, just was I recall.

Even if that is the case, I'm not sure I completely see the issue here.
If they are providing COAs, and actually providing the product that's advertised, what is the problem with this? Especially when their prices appear to be competitive with other Chinese vendors.

 

[RedSkip]

Even if that is the case, I'm not sure I completely see the issue here.
If they are providing COAs, and actually providing the product that's advertised, what is the problem with this? Especially when their prices appear to be competitive with other Chinese vendors.

No issue, just not sure it’s a CN company. NBD either way like you’ve eloquently stated! 👊🏻

 

[moonpies4misfits]

I read somewhere that Nexaph is a front for a group of GBers that order from other group. It’s and rebrand/markup in the states. Can’t confirm or deny, just was I recall.

Someone said this about Amo the other day, but didn't give details lol. I wonder how common this is in reality.

 

[dionysos]

I'd like to know. Not for the sake if creating drama, I'd just like to have as much info as possible. I was considering buying from this vendor, but some things I've read are giving me pause. If I had all the info, I could better understand if this is a whole lotta nothing, or something to really be concerned about.

We will never have all the info. The vague assertions may be true or not. If true they may be relevant or not.

Based upon what I know to be true about Nexa, and about the very private Group Buy Managers that are affiliated with them, the products offered are high quality, high purity, and are competitively priced. NEXA, under a different name, have been a quality provider for a good long while now according to credible forum members who have been involved in their Private Group Buys.

I am confident of Nexa's history, the provenance of their peptides, the quality of their current product AND the irrelevance of this gossip. I would not have invested $300 in a kit for my own use otherwise.

Each must judge for himself and do as he sees fit.
-Dionysos

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

I Guess I'm more conservative than you on this stuff. But hey, it's good having folks like you to test the waters and report back. I'm not sure Amo would have the reputation they now do if you hadn't taken the plunge. I appreciate that. Just watch out about the sterility issues OK.

 

[BamaCrazy]

My order was completed Monday around the same time and I received mine one hour after you received yours. That delivery plus what I already had will cover me for a long time.

 

[dionysos]

I Guess I'm more conservative than you on this stuff. But hey, it's good having folks like you to test the waters and report back. I'm not sure Amo would have the reputation they now do if you hadn't taken the plunge. I appreciate that. Just watch out about the sterility issues OK.

I do have more tolerance for risk than the average bear. Nexa today is significantly less risky than AmoPeptide was 4 months ago. And also I was curious and wanted to know more about this new vendor.

"See For Yourself" the Buddha instructed.

LATE ADDITION: "Just watch out about the sterility issues OK." I'd like you to remove this sentence and DM me your source for the sterility question. I have access to various Peppys and other forums but I would prefer not to bloodhound through Discord Universe to try and substantiate your comment, CHIZI. If there is something real there document it please so we can ALL see it. Otherwise I ask you, as politely as I'm able to do, please remove your comment.

 

[Tomes]

@dionysos can you share which rep you ordered from or the whatsapp info? I was actually quite interested in this vendor because of their pricing, but then became unsure of which reps are authentic.

essentially, it was reported there was a rep re-selling reconstituted peps with SNP (at that time called SPC) labels, so for me it became unclear who to trust or not. There was also had a failed sterility test and then a quick rebrand from SPC to SNP (Nexa) shortly after, which of course created some side eyes.

that's all i know, and it's all as an innocent bystander in certain servers. there are also the GB issues mentioned above, where it seems there may be a lack of transparency in where the product is coming from - this to me is a GB issue, not a Nexa issue. there is various drama stemming from this, which is why i said i was not trying to create any here, because this was not the topic of my question.

 

[LumpySpace]

I've just received my kit of 12mg Retatrutide from Shanghai Nexa Pharmaceuticals.
Ordered Monday morning at 8:19am and delivered in 3 days and 4 hours from their US depot.

EXCELLENT packaging and the KIT LABEL COMPLETE WITH JANO COA HYPERLINK !
Use your phone camera on the jpg - it WORKS QUICKLY.

This is a first from a Chinese Vendor in my experience and a trend that I hope and expect to develop quickly.

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Thanks to your post their Reta is now completely sold out! 🙂 They ended up refunding my money promptly though.

 

[LumpySpace]

I Guess I'm more conservative than you on this stuff. But hey, it's good having folks like you to test the waters and report back. I'm not sure Amo would have the reputation they now do if you hadn't taken the plunge. I appreciate that. Just watch out about the sterility issues OK.

their sterility testing from Jano is posted on their website. Pretty easy to find as well.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

LATE ADDITION: "Just watch out about the sterility issues OK." I'd like you to remove this sentence and DM me your source for the sterility question. I have access to various Peppys and other forums but I would prefer not to bloodhound through Discord Universe to try and substantiate your comment, CHIZI. If there is something real there document it please so we can ALL see it. Otherwise I ask you, as politely as I'm able to do, please remove your comment.

No! I absolutely will not remove that part. I posted about it in 2 threads already. I can't post directly to the link on peppys since it will get me banned. But there were bad sterility tests. 3 members here confirmed it and anyone here needs to know about this.

 

[Tomes]

No! I absolutely will not remove that part. I posted about it in 2 threads already. I can't post directly to the link on peppys since it will get me banned. But there were bad sterility tests. 3 members here confirmed it and anyone here needs to know about this.

This is also in my post above and I can second it. There have been multiple sterility fails recently across different vendors, so it is not just an SPC/SNP problem, but they were one of them.

 

[dionysos]

their sterility testing from Jano is posted on their website. Pretty easy to find as well.

Good. i’ll take a look at them.

 

[dionysos]

No! I absolutely will not remove that part. I posted about it in 2 threads already. I can't post directly to the link on peppys since it will get me banned. But there were bad sterility tests. 3 members here confirmed it and anyone here needs to know about this.

Great. Once I confirm what you’ve said I’ll note it on the datasheet.

 

[dionysos]

@dionysos can you share which rep you ordered from or the whatsapp info? I was actually quite interested in this vendor because of their pricing, but then became unsure of which reps are authentic.

essentially, it was reported there was a rep re-selling reconstituted peps with SNP (at that time called SPC) labels, so for me it became unclear who to trust or not. There was also had a failed sterility test and then a quick rebrand from SPC to SNP (Nexa) shortly after, which of course created some side eyes.

that's all i know, and it's all as an innocent bystander in certain servers. there are also the GB issues mentioned above, where it seems there may be a lack of transparency in where the product is coming from - this to me is a GB issue, not a Nexa issue. there is various drama stemming from this, which is why i said i was not trying to create any here, because this was not the topic of my question.

My order was for Retatrutide 12mg via a private GB hosted on a Discord server that interfaced with the Nexa website. Cain is the Nexa rep I dealt with.

And I do understand your concern with the lack of transparency of sources and of the machinations of group buys. Given the nature of Chinese commerce and their lack of rigor in company registration I don’t think that mainland problem will clear in our lifetimes, or at least in my short liferime.

The interconnections between and within US Group Buys could occupy months of study I think. In the end it seems fluid, difficult to crack and not of very much use to us as purchasers.

 

[Drexeldragon216]

I've just received my kit of 12mg Retatrutide from Shanghai Nexa Pharmaceuticals.
Ordered Monday morning at 8:19am and delivered in 3 days and 4 hours from their US depot.

EXCELLENT packaging and the KIT LABEL COMPLETE WITH JANO COA HYPERLINK !
Use your phone camera on the jpg - it WORKS QUICKLY.

This is a first from a Chinese Vendor in my experience and a trend that I hope and expect to develop quickly.

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How was the shipping packaging? I received one package from Amo and the box was not taped well and had ripped (shocked the item actually arrived and didn’t fall out). I will say, I said something and sent pics and they were very responsive and my next package was taped up quite well.

 

[dionysos]

How was the shipping packaging? I received one package from Amo and the box was not taped well and had ripped (shocked the item actually arrived and didn’t fall out). I will say, I said something and sent pics and they were very responsive and my next package was taped up quite well.

Thanks for the story. This illustrates my idea of a good and responsible company. Mistakes are a given. They're going to happen. What the company does AFTER the mistake is the real tell of what they are.

 

[LumpySpace]

No! I absolutely will not remove that part. I posted about it in 2 threads already. I can't post directly to the link on peppys since it will get me banned. But there were bad sterility tests. 3 members here confirmed it and anyone here needs to know about this.

Since "sterility" testing seems to be the "it" word right now, care to elaborate what it means in terms of peptides as well as consequences of pass/fail result? What do the labs test for specifically with that test? Why, out of a sudden, after consuming the products for at least a few years it is suddenly an issue? I doubt that it has never happened before.

No hate, just genuinely curious. 🙂

 

[Tomes]

Since "sterility" testing seems to be the "it" word right now, care to elaborate what it means in terms of peptides as well as consequences of pass/fail result? What do the labs test for specifically with that test? Why, out of a sudden, after consuming the products for at least a few years it is suddenly an issue? I doubt that it has never happened before.

No hate, just genuinely curious. 🙂

The sterility tests used most commonly (and that have produced recent fails) are total aerobic microbial count (TAMC) and total yeast and mold count (TYMC). Many of the recent arguments around sterility have been based on the idea that a "Pass" on these tests does not guarantee a 'sterile' product; with that said, there is no argument that a "Fail" means it's not sterile.

There were a string of recent tirz Fails across multiple vendors, which were pretty surprising and have led to speculation it was perhaps contamination of the raws which could have been sourced from the same vendor. No way to know that, though, it's just speculation.

You are most likely right that researchers have been using non-sterile peps in many instances without knowing; a small amount of bacteria / yeast / mold is probably going to be easily destroyed by our immune system, though I certainly wouldn't want to be injecting myself with it consistently over time.

 

[Tomes]

Good. i’ll take a look at them.

Just to clarify, only the "Pass" tests that were sent out by SNP are on the website. The fail has been shared on Peppys, and was a PTDS test.

 

[dionysos]

Just to clarify, only the "Pass" tests that were sent out by SNP are on the website. The fail has been shared on Peppys, and was a PTDS test.

That explains why I am unable to find them @Tomes - I'm not a member of the PTDS.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

Just to clarify, only the "Pass" tests that were sent out by SNP are on the website. The fail has been shared on Peppys, and was a PTDS test.

That is concerning. They have way more tests on their website and 100% are passing. While 1 of the 2 independent tests show a fail. I am inherently skeptical of any vendor testing unless the vendor has a flawless reputation. It's not the same as true independent testing.

Syringe filters are cheap folks. The risk of infection from subcutaneous injections of non-sterile peptides is small for each shot, but it adds up over time, so if you are taking multiple peptides or taking them long term, I think the benifits are well worth the small cost.

I have a couple sources for filters here.

Post in thread 'Syringe Filter Recommendations'

Sep 19, 2024

So it looks like peptidetest is now selling the exact filters shown in the videos linked above for $1.60 each. Some cheap BAC water too.

Lab Supplies — Peptide Test

www.peptidetest.com

For what it's worth I already bought 13mm pes filters from Cobetter. Losses will be higher than 4mm, but i couldnt find an option for 4mm that was less than $100, until after. Haven't used them yet though...

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[Chizikitide-1977]

That explains why I am unable to find them @Tomes - I'm not a member of the PTDS.

The info was shared in the public testing results in peppys, but they only summarize the findings, rather than post the full reports.

 

[Tomes]

That explains why I am unable to find them @Tomes - I'm not a member of the PTDS.

The info was shared in the public testing results in peppys, but they only summarize the findings, rather than post the full reports.

Yes exactly. Unfortunately it's also slightly hard to find on Peppys because the tag is misspelled in the body of the post, but if you search for #spc it's the only post with that hashtag. I understand if you don't update your own spreadsheet without seeing the actual Jano report, which we can't link to based on rules of PTDS.

 

[PopTart]

I just ordered cagri from SNP. I will filter my peps as “good practice” but I have a robust immunity system and have had my share of untreated cuts crammed full of bacteria and other stuff and managed just fine.

If I were injecting this stuff into the bloodstream, I would want that guaranteed sterility but subq is very forgiving. I bet the food served at stadiums wouldn’t pass sterility testing.

EDIT: Got a tracking number 90 minutes after ordering.

 

[Tomes]

I just ordered cagri from SNP. I will filter my peps as “good practice” but I have a robust immunity system and have had my share of untreated cuts crammed full of bacteria and other stuff and managed just fine.

If I were injecting this stuff into the bloodstream, I would want that guaranteed sterility but subq is very forgiving. I bet the food served at stadiums wouldn’t pass sterility testing.

Hahaha, a lovely thought 🤢
Everyone has their own risk tolerance and should act accordingly!

 

[tedtwist]

I've just received my kit of 12mg Retatrutide from Shanghai Nexa Pharmaceuticals.
Ordered Monday morning at 8:19am and delivered in 3 days and 4 hours from their US depot.

EXCELLENT packaging and the KIT LABEL COMPLETE WITH JANO COA HYPERLINK !
Use your phone camera on the jpg - it WORKS QUICKLY.

This is a first from a Chinese Vendor in my experience and a trend that I hope and expect to develop quickly.

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Price?

 

[PopTart]

Price?

It was $265 including US shipping for R12

 

[dionysos]

It was $265 including US shipping for R12

I paid $13.00 additional for using a VisaCard.

 

[PurpleCatFur]

I paid $13.00 additional for using a VisaCard.

Same, mine worked out to be ~5% just like yours but for a different dollar amount. Saving my crypto in the event a GB comes up I want to take part in. CC was worth the 5% convenience fee to me.

 

[Lilith]

So Peppys is definitely a navigational challenge. The #spc thread shows a fail for #shanghaipharma with test by Jano. I happened to find a post under #nexapharm that shows a second test was done by an individual from the same GB. She sent her vial(s) individually to Peptide Test and the test passed. The CoA for that test is actually posted there. I am somewhat new to this and hope my finding the other hashtag is helpful to those looking for more info. Thus it appears that within the GB there were inconsistent results.

 

[meowTime]

So Peppys is definitely a navigational challenge. The #spc thread shows a fail for #shanghaipharma with test by Jano. I happened to find a post under #nexapharm that shows a second test was done by an individual from the same GB. She sent her vial(s) individually to Peptide Test and the test passed. The CoA for that test is actually posted there. I am somewhat new to this and hope my finding the other hashtag is helpful to those looking for more info. Thus it appears that within the GB there were inconsistent results.

It also just came out (on Peppys, from the peptide testing discord server) that many vendors are failing sterility. Sterility is apparently a relatively new concern in the community and might be hugely overblown.

 

[LumpySpace]

The sterility tests used most commonly (and that have produced recent fails) are total aerobic microbial count (TAMC) and total yeast and mold count (TYMC). Many of the recent arguments around sterility have been based on the idea that a "Pass" on these tests does not guarantee a 'sterile' product; with that said, there is no argument that a "Fail" means it's not sterile.

There were a string of recent tirz Fails across multiple vendors, which were pretty surprising and have led to speculation it was perhaps contamination of the raws which could have been sourced from the same vendor. No way to know that, though, it's just speculation.

You are most likely right that researchers have been using non-sterile peps in many instances without knowing; a small amount of bacteria / yeast / mold is probably going to be easily destroyed by our immune system, though I certainly wouldn't want to be injecting myself with it consistently over time.

Thank you!

So my understanding at this point that this a quasi-qualitative/quantitative test for non-specific microorganisms. However, since it doesn't tell you what type of microorganism present I do not quite see value in it. What is the threshold? Who determines it? What is an acceptable number and what is not, especially, not knowing what exactly one is dealing with.

It just seems like a total fad to me that makes additional revenue for the testing companies. I see no value in it especially since majority of people here know pretty well that paying so little for the GLPs comes with a certain risk. I would be more concerned if there was a specific microorganism they were testing these for, amount of which in the sample would cause a trip to an emergency room.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks again though! 🙂

 

[CtrlAltDel]

I've just received my kit of 12mg Retatrutide from Shanghai Nexa Pharmaceuticals.
Ordered Monday morning at 8:19am and delivered in 3 days and 4 hours from their US depot.

EXCELLENT packaging and the KIT LABEL COMPLETE WITH JANO COA HYPERLINK !
Use your phone camera on the jpg - it WORKS QUICKLY.

This is a first from a Chinese Vendor in my experience and a trend that I hope and expect to develop quickly.

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I just looked for the price list and it’s not showing Reta on their site 😢

 

[moonpies4misfits]

I am somewhat new to this and hope my finding the other hashtag is helpful to those looking for more info.

Just an FYI, you can always leave a comment with the correct hashtag and I believe it will pick up in search results.

 

[meowTime]

I just looked for the price list and it’s not showing Reta on their site 😢

Per the telegram reta is in production and will be available in 10-12 days

 

[PepOhio]

It just seems like a total fad to me that makes additional revenue for the testing companies. I see no value in it especially since majority of people here know pretty well that paying so little for the GLPs comes with a certain risk.

Don't necessarily disagree...but a fad can become a selling point for companies wanting to set themselves above the competition and this can in turn possibly get an entire industry to improve their product to compete
For me it gives us another insight/data point into the quality of a company's processes and whether they work to prevent comtaminations of their products.
But at the end of the day your right we all roll the dice to a certain degree with everything we buy from home or abroad.
Lots of people thought it was perfectly safe to buy deli meats at the grocery here in the US, but Boars Head proved them wrong in the last 6 months. Plus hundreds of other examples every year in the US at least.

It may end up being a short term fad but I hope it pushes the industry to continue to improve!

 

[meowTime]

Don't necessarily disagree...but a fad can become a selling point for companies wanting to set themselves above the competition and this can in turn possibly get an entire industry to improve their product to compete
For me it gives us another insight/data point into the quality of a company's processes and whether they work to prevent comtaminations of their products.
But at the end of the day your right we all roll the dice to a certain degree with everything we buy from home or abroad.
Lots of people thought it was perfectly safe to buy deli meats at the grocery here in the US, but Boars Head proved them wrong in the last 6 months. Plus hundreds of other examples every year in the US at least.

It may end up being a short term fad but I hope it pushes the industry to continue to improve!

It's also possible the raws they get aren't sterile in the first place. And we know only a few companies are actually making the raws.

 

[PepOhio]

It's also possible the raws they get aren't sterile in the first place. And we know only a few companies are actually making the raws.

Agree.
And if the companies KNOW we are going to be testing the finished product it would eventually push them to do more testing on the raws they are receiving, If they are NOT already testing them

 

[QueenP]

Per the telegram reta is in production and will be available in 10-12 days

There is also a GB organizer on discord who is running a GB sale for R12.

 

[dionysos]

I just looked for the price list and it’s not showing Reta on their site 😢

 

[JohnnyGobbs]

The fact that I haven’t seen any crazy issues on any of these grey GLP’s is pretty reassuring in general. I figure there’s been… I don’t know, millions of injections total? And I haven’t seen like any crazy injection site infection pics or anything. I’ve only been on the scene like 3 months and I know hearsay isn’t science but things seem pretty controlled and safe overall whoever is making these things at the source level.